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Discussion Boards => Support => Topic started by: JediJohnnie on June 24, 2019, 10:44:18 pm
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
Is this the same user that seems to delight in posting intentionally provocative/argumentative things?
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
I have not see anything that looks like him. I am sure if he is still around he will reply to this thread. lol
The posts he made under his orig name are still on here. He was banned but they did not delete his posts. Same with others who were removed from the forums.
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I'm just saying they didn't delete his ericborn1980 posts, which is what they typically do once you're banned from a spam account.
In any case, I'm reopening the bible verse thread. I'm sure if he's still active here, it'll draw him like a moth to a flame....
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kjstrukel, it is the same user.... I stopped paying attention to his posts a long time ago
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Yep....he's back with his 4th account. This time as "Legslangevan". LOL
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Oh my goodness, this person seems like a character. Unfortunately, it is impossible to keep up with all of the accounts posted by a single person. We just have to be very vigilant and report up when necessary. I hate how other people attempt to ruin the camaraderie of our community with their nonsense.
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Yep....he's back with his 4th account. This time as "Legslangevan". LOL
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Thought you could only sign up once with your personal information but I guess no one is longer monitoring this type of action.
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I'm just saying they didn't delete his ericborn1980 posts, which is what they typically do once you're banned from a spam account.
In any case, I'm reopening the bible verse thread. I'm sure if he's still active here, it'll draw him like a moth to a flame....
First off i have no use for you but just wanted to remind you Hitch had almost 4000 posts with 117 likes and you are worried cos Eric1980 posted a bible scripture in your topic that made you lock it!!!!LOL!!!!!!
Listen lemme give you some advice.The majority here do not care of your obsession with him.You creat this topic....you put cartoons up in others....its plain as day!!!
There are plenty of excellent posts over the years that have given viewers a good perspective of what kind of person Hitch is.You DETEST Jehovahs organization to the point where you are what you are !!!As well as some others!!!
I know this wont end it with you and others but as far as im concerned im done.All i wanna do is put up truth.Hitch was unfairly banned.His non-supporters run the risk being banned cos they depend on the $$$ more then he does.He has a few dollars.Plain english.....behave.
Well, at least you're PRETENDING not to be hitch....that should improve your chances of escaping detection, oh, I'd say .00000000000003% LOL
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Oh my goodness, this person seems like a character. Unfortunately, it is impossible to keep up with all of the accounts posted by a single person. We just have to be very vigilant and report up when necessary. I hate how other people attempt to ruin the camaraderie of our community with their nonsense.
I've already reported his new account twice. He'll be gone soon. (And back with his 5th account, I'm sure. Pathetic.)
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I've heard Admins are able to block a person's IP, should they become a repeat problem. But, either hitch is a genius computer whiz at blocking his IP address or FC's message board now exists with a 'skeleton crew' running it.
Knowing hitch as I have these past few years, I'm CERTAIN it's the latter.
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I'm just saying they didn't delete his ericborn1980 posts, which is what they typically do once you're banned from a spam account.
In any case, I'm reopening the bible verse thread. I'm sure if he's still active here, it'll draw him like a moth to a flame....
First off i have no use for you but just wanted to remind you Hitch had almost 4000 posts with 117 likes and you are worried cos Eric1980 posted a bible scripture in your topic that made you lock it!!!!LOL!!!!!!
Listen lemme give you some advice.The majority here do not care of your obsession with him.You creat this topic....you put cartoons up in others....its plain as day!!!
There are plenty of excellent posts over the years that have given viewers a good perspective of what kind of person Hitch is.You DETEST Jehovahs organization to the point where you are what you are !!!As well as some others!!!
I know this wont end it with you and others but as far as im concerned im done.All i wanna do is put up truth.Hitch was unfairly banned.His non-supporters run the risk being banned cos they depend on the $$$ more then he does.He has a few dollars.Plain english.....behave.
Well, at least you're PRETENDING not to be hitch....that should improve your chances of escaping detection, oh, I'd say .00000000000003% LOL
Why dont you try calculating how long it takes before FC realizes you are a pain in the ***
You've already got other JWs on this site bashing you as a bad example of JWs and what they stand for- and now you're actually lying about being hitch and deceiving people. Just let that sink in. Any religion would be honored to have you as a representative member, I'm sure.....
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Why ban hitch, jedi?, you 2 are hilarious together! Maybe, y'all could team up as a stand-up duo.
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Wow I don't know this person or what is going on but it sounds like DRAMA
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Why ban hitch, jedi?, you 2 are hilarious together! Maybe, y'all could team up as a stand-up duo.
Bertha,Hitch thanx you for the endorsement,but he said no thanx.JJ doesnt support the biblical views of The Watchtower.
But he said he might sell him some comp secrets...LOL!
Hitch, if you want to keep up this play-acting that you're somebody else, then for the love of Sherlock Holmes, stop posting like a 12 year old. LOL. Like nobody can tell it's really YOU from your posting style. LOL!
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Just to keep the rest of the forum abreast of the current state of hitch's continuous flouting the rules by creating another account, I've sent in a support ticket in hopes that the rules will be adhered to by the forum mods.
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Reported again.
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Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
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or FC's message board now exists with a 'skeleton crew' running it.
Umm its been like this ever since I joined back in 2013
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
Oh yes of course, I agree, the rules apply to all! But how does he keep getting back in? And why in heaven's name would anyone stir up trouble if they were already banned once?! I'm not really asking you, I'm just wondering out loud why and how the same person could keep doing these things. :)
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
Oh yes of course, I agree, the rules apply to all! But how does he keep getting back in? And why in heaven's name would anyone stir up trouble if they were already banned once?! I'm not really asking you, I'm just wondering out loud why and how the same person could keep doing these things. :)
Some people just need the dopamine hit they get from being the center of attention. To wit- his bragging about 'all the views' he gets on his JW propaganda topic.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
I am going to go with admit defeat. lol
They can ban his IP if they want to stop it but apparently they do not care.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
It is also against the rules to refer yourself and have a bunch of accounts. And try to make extra money from your own referrals. If one is allowed to do this then why can't the rest of us do it?
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
Oh yes of course, I agree, the rules apply to all! But how does he keep getting back in? And why in heaven's name would anyone stir up trouble if they were already banned once?! I'm not really asking you, I'm just wondering out loud why and how the same person could keep doing these things. :)
How does he get back in? He just goes to the website and makes a new account. The person who was saying you can only have ONE account per life time does not know what she is talking about.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
Oh yes of course, I agree, the rules apply to all! But how does he keep getting back in? And why in heaven's name would anyone stir up trouble if they were already banned once?! I'm not really asking you, I'm just wondering out loud why and how the same person could keep doing these things. :)
Some people just need the dopamine hit they get from being the center of attention. To wit- his bragging about 'all the views' he gets on his JW propaganda topic.
If you are talking about how many "views" it shows a topic in these threads gets, that doesn't mean beans. Every time you hit your own thread it shows a hit. And just because somebody "hits" it doesn't mean they read it or even give a flip what it says or agree with it or anything else.
I think he has missed the point. According to his religion he is suppose to get off his butt and go door to door thumping his nonsense that is totally opposite what the Bible says. Arguing with people online does not count. And from things I have read if the right people knew how he is acting he would be ousted from their "religion" anyway.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
Oh yes of course, I agree, the rules apply to all! But how does he keep getting back in? And why in heaven's name would anyone stir up trouble if they were already banned once?! I'm not really asking you, I'm just wondering out loud why and how the same person could keep doing these things. :)
Some people just need the dopamine hit they get from being the center of attention. To wit- his bragging about 'all the views' he gets on his JW propaganda topic.
If you are talking about how many "views" it shows a topic in these threads gets, that doesn't mean beans. Every time you hit your own thread it shows a hit. And just because somebody "hits" it doesn't mean they read it or even give a flip what it says or agree with it or anything else.
I think he has missed the point. According to his religion he is suppose to get off his butt and go door to door thumping his nonsense that is totally opposite what the Bible says. Arguing with people online does not count. And from things I have read if the right people knew how he is acting he would be ousted from their "religion" anyway.
I can imagine him clicking that link 500 times a day, just so he can claim views. lol
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
It is also against the rules to refer yourself and have a bunch of accounts. And try to make extra money from your own referrals. If one is allowed to do this then why can't the rest of us do it?
Yeah, I always thought that was a dumb rule. Don't let us make a little extra money by posting referral links to other websites or our own businesses, but by all means, let hitch- who admits he doesn't even use the site anymore- make the message board his personal playground.
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Hey, I totally respect you JediJohnnie, but wouldn't it just be easier to ignore this person instead of letting him get under your skin? Unless of course, he says something really bad, then of course he should be reported. I don't think I've ever seen any of his posts other than the ones you are showing, or if I did, they didn't phase me. Sometimes, for my own, sanity, I just have to scroll by or ignore. :)
I respect you as well, so I'll give you a straight answer- The only reason I'm pushing for hitch to be banned (again) is because he's breaking the TOS rules. He was banned- he's not allowed to post here anymore. Not because I say so, but because FC chose to ban him for his anti-social behavior.
If the rules are to be respected and obeyed, they must apply to EVERYBODY. hitch doesn't get a pass because he's a pain in the backside for mods/admin to deal with. He should be removed once and for all, otherwise the rules aren't worth beans.
It is also against the rules to refer yourself and have a bunch of accounts. And try to make extra money from your own referrals. If one is allowed to do this then why can't the rest of us do it?
Yeah, I always thought that was a dumb rule. Don't let us make a little extra money by posting referral links to other websites or our own businesses, but by all means, let hitch- who admits he doesn't even use the site anymore- make the message board his personal playground.
I agree with not being able to post personal links. Although people do that all the time. And it is months before it is taken down. Most people on this site have mentioned other sites they are a member of and it seems everyone is a member of the same sites.
I am no one's referral for any site I have joined. If I saw a link somewhere I investigated the site and joined straight through the site not a referral link.
As far as this site goes my referrals are worthless. One cashed out one time and the rest have done nothing more than sign up. Did not even complete the first offer which I assume a survey counts as an offer.
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I wont say for certain.....but maybe finally SOME Justice!!
Yep, some justice alright- they finally banned you AGAIN!
Oh, you were talking about me? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here.
For those of you keeping count, this is his 4th alias. What a loser. lol
Reported
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I wont say for certain.....but maybe finally SOME Justice!!
Yep, some justice alright- they finally banned you AGAIN!
Oh, you were talking about me? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here.
For those of you keeping count, this is his 4th alias. What a loser. lol
Reported
Again.
Your FC proved u are a liar i always knew u were.You were banned for 2 weeks.Your banner showed $1510 2 weeks ago.You were 1 dollar short of $25.Then it went to $1511 to be eligible for cashout.Then u added a few bucks more.Shows u were using the site.FC lets u still earn when u get banned.
Yeh u think im gonna believe u were gonna earn cash without stopping by forum Pinocchio?
Either or i could care less.You will bury yourself eventually again.
LOL! THAT'S your proof I was banned? That my banner showed I was still earning while on vacation?
LoooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!
No wonder you swallow whatever the Watchtower sells you!
I don't need to prove anything to you- the one who was banned 3 times and doesn't know when to quit.
Frankly, I'm more worried than offended. You have all the makings of a stalker. You're even keeping track of how much and how fast I earn on FC!
Reported
Again
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I wont say for certain.....but maybe finally SOME Justice!!
Yep, some justice alright- they finally banned you AGAIN!
Oh, you were talking about me? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here.
For those of you keeping count, this is his 4th alias. What a loser. lol
Reported
Again.
Your FC proved u are a liar i always knew u were.You were banned for 2 weeks.Your banner showed $1510 2 weeks ago.You were 1 dollar short of $25.Then it went to $1511 to be eligible for cashout.Then u added a few bucks more.Shows u were using the site.FC lets u still earn when u get banned.
Yeh u think im gonna believe u were gonna earn cash without stopping by forum Pinocchio?
Either or i could care less.You will bury yourself eventually again.
LOL! THAT'S your proof I was banned? That my banner showed I was still earning while on vacation?
LoooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!
No wonder you swallow whatever the Watchtower sells you!
I don't need to prove anything to you- the one who was banned 3 times and doesn't know when to quit.
Frankly, I'm more worried than offended. You have all the makings of a stalker. You're even keeping track of how much and how fast I earn on FC!
Reported
Again
I def agree with this.
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Just sent in another support ticket..... :thumbsup:
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Well, I got over 30 posts for the month of August. Guess I'll kick back and relax again for another few weeks.
The only question is- should I drive stalker-hitch crazy by not posting again for 3 weeks, or should I disappoint him by showing up for a day every week, so he won't get too excited thinking I'm banned again? LOL
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Well, I got over 30 posts for the month of August. Guess I'll kick back and relax again for another few weeks.
The only question is- should I drive stalker-hitch crazy by not posting again for 3 weeks, or should I disappoint him by showing up for a day every week, so he won't get too excited thinking I'm banned again? LOL
lol That is a tough one. :D
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Well, I got over 30 posts for the month of August. Guess I'll kick back and relax again for another few weeks.
The only question is- should I drive stalker-hitch crazy by not posting again for 3 weeks, or should I disappoint him by showing up for a day every week, so he won't get too excited thinking I'm banned again? LOL
lol That is a tough one. :D
I noticed he's stealing my idea to do a locked topic. (I think I'll start a new one next month) Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery. lol
I did one post this week and his topic wasn't locked at the time. I think he was baiting me to post in it, to see if I was 'banned'. lol
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Well, I got over 30 posts for the month of August. Guess I'll kick back and relax again for another few weeks.
The only question is- should I drive stalker-hitch crazy by not posting again for 3 weeks, or should I disappoint him by showing up for a day every week, so he won't get too excited thinking I'm banned again? LOL
lol That is a tough one. :D
I noticed he's stealing my idea to do a locked topic. (I think I'll start a new one next month) Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery. lol
I did one post this week and his topic wasn't locked at the time. I think he was baiting me to post in it, to see if I was 'banned'. lol
I know exactly what you mean by being flattered.Youve kept this topic going for 2 months now and it doesnt look like an end is in sight.
BTW,what was it with Countrygirls backing you referred to me as?
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I wont say for certain.....but maybe finally SOME Justice!!
Yep, some justice alright- they finally banned you AGAIN!
Oh, you were talking about me? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here.
For those of you keeping count, this is his 4th alias. What a loser. lol
Reported
Again.
Your FC proved u are a liar i always knew u were.You were banned for 2 weeks.Your banner showed $1510 2 weeks ago.You were 1 dollar short of $25.Then it went to $1511 to be eligible for cashout.Then u added a few bucks more.Shows u were using the site.FC lets u still earn when u get banned.
Yeh u think im gonna believe u were gonna earn cash without stopping by forum Pinocchio?
Either or i could care less.You will bury yourself eventually again.
LOL! THAT'S your proof I was banned? That my banner showed I was still earning while on vacation?
LoooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!
No wonder you swallow whatever the Watchtower sells you!
I don't need to prove anything to you- the one who was banned 3 times and doesn't know when to quit.
Frankly, I'm more worried than offended. You have all the makings of a stalker. You're even keeping track of how much and how fast I earn on FC!
Reported
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Just wanna copy and paste the proof
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Reported again.
*Sigh*
Does the Admin want to address this- or at least 'admit defeat' that they can't be bothered to keep kicking hitch out like the cat that came back?
Testing 123
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I wont say for certain.....but maybe finally SOME Justice!!
Yep, some justice alright- they finally banned you AGAIN!
Oh, you were talking about me? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here.
For those of you keeping count, this is his 4th alias. What a loser. lol
Reported
Again.
Your FC proved u are a liar i always knew u were.You were banned for 2 weeks.Your banner showed $1510 2 weeks ago.You were 1 dollar short of $25.Then it went to $1511 to be eligible for cashout.Then u added a few bucks more.Shows u were using the site.FC lets u still earn when u get banned.
Yeh u think im gonna believe u were gonna earn cash without stopping by forum Pinocchio?
Either or i could care less.You will bury yourself eventually again.
LOL! THAT'S your proof I was banned? That my banner showed I was still earning while on vacation?
LoooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!
No wonder you swallow whatever the Watchtower sells you!
I don't need to prove anything to you- the one who was banned 3 times and doesn't know when to quit.
Frankly, I'm more worried than offended. You have all the makings of a stalker. You're even keeping track of how much and how fast I earn on FC!
Reported
Again
I def agree with this.
testing 123
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Well, I got over 30 posts for the month of August. Guess I'll kick back and relax again for another few weeks.
The only question is- should I drive stalker-hitch crazy by not posting again for 3 weeks, or should I disappoint him by showing up for a day every week, so he won't get too excited thinking I'm banned again? LOL
lol That is a tough one. :D
I noticed he's stealing my idea to do a locked topic. (I think I'll start a new one next month) Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery. lol
I did one post this week and his topic wasn't locked at the time. I think he was baiting me to post in it, to see if I was 'banned'. lol
You should thank me for locking it.Otherwise i am sure you wouldnt have the discipline to NOT come in and harass.
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The fact that you're trying to keep reporting me & build a 'case' against me is the height of absurdity. LOL How many times have you been banned? You're not supposed to BE here. You're not a member anymore. Let that sink in at last and do something productive with your time.
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He's baaaaaack! This time as Drutts0643. What a clown!
He's so addicted to this place, I can't believe how he endured his year long ban years ago!
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He's baaaaaack! This time as Drutts0643. What a clown!
He's so addicted to this place, I can't believe how he endured his year long ban years ago!
Youve been gone more then me silly fool!You go on vacation...LOL!!
Clown?No it was something else you referred to us as.......i cant seem to remember.
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I think I may have finally scared old hitch away. lol ;D
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I think I may have finally scared old hitch away. lol ;D
You trying to give yourself a vote of confidence?LOL!!You know very well we have ALLLLL been here and will continue to be unless a neutral judge might say something else.
Seems you have nothing better to do at almost 3 in the morning and then checking in early again.I know u arent concerned about earning...lol!
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Just curious... Do people do this, argue with others just to get in their 30 posts? I didn't think that would count ?? I thought your posts had to be helpful to others? Maybe things have changed. It has been a few years since I was active here :)
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Just curious... Do people do this, argue with others just to get in their 30 posts? I didn't think that would count ?? I thought your posts had to be helpful to others? Maybe things have changed. It has been a few years since I was active here :)
In some cases it might be true.In this case with me no.And i dont think in some of the others that are linked to this discussion no as well.
When we have supported the bible we always meant well.I think in other cases in general or humor etc we have always meant well.You might get a difference of opinion to what i just said now cos i have very strong perception.Then it will lead to others writing more and differences of opinion again.
I think what should NOT count towards others 30 posts is answers that are 1 word or just plain ol boring.Thats not contributing.
And right now so u know,we havent been in it for the money in over 4 months and we dont refer each other either.Whereas some cheat on surveys etc.But i dont care about that either.I just tried to answer u as honest as i could.
And remember you can ignore or just pass by a post you want nothing to do or say with.Lets face it,some may wanna get involved cos they dont like the way some beat their drum.We know that for a fact cos when some of come in and made an accusation,we were all over it and they COULD NOT back it up.They shoulda kept quiet to begin with.A wise proverb says a fool is considered to have wisdom when they keep quiet or know when to speak.
My pal hitch was unfairly banned back in April and FC blew it.Some that supported FC decision dont like the fact that we are protesting that decision and are even more frustrated cos they dont realize Hitch has a quite a few members backing him.This might culminate in a decision elsewheres to look into this more.
The enemies had a problem with it cos the ban was first said to be over religeous stuff.Id like to see someone cut and paste a topic from hitch over religeon that warranted his ban.I welcome viewing it right here.We have the very 1st reason FC made for the ban.Of course the injustice led to other things,now the enemies wanna side with FC u cant make more then 1 acct...but we know the enemies dont care about that.....they are squeaky glass clean u can see thru em like the TRUE God sees the heart of us all.
Their despise for JWs and hitch defending them is what bugs em.Why should they care about other accts being created.Thats BS they use.....we know the real reason why they are frustrated and use that platform that maybe BBB can decide upon .
The fact that JJ supports the NE Pats...involved in Deflate Gate.Brady shoulda took the AIR outta him...LOL!!
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I think I may have finally scared old hitch away. lol ;D
You trying to give yourself a vote of confidence?LOL!!You know very well we have ALLLLL been here and will continue to be unless a neutral judge might say something else.
Seems you have nothing better to do at almost 3 in the morning and then checking in early again.I know u arent concerned about earning...lol!
Well, unlike you, I haven't jumped to conclusions that you were banned for not showing up. lol Willing to give yourself a vote of confidence with that one, eh?
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Just curious... Do people do this, argue with others just to get in their 30 posts? I didn't think that would count ?? I thought your posts had to be helpful to others? Maybe things have changed. It has been a few years since I was active here :)
No, FC is pretty lenient with content. So long as something substantive is posted is all that really matters.
Of course, members arguing bitterly for months on end is something I'm sure FC would like to avoid. But unfortunately, they can't seem to lose hitch, who keeps braking the rules and coming back under different names. They have no right to tell me not to argue with him, so long as he keeps coming back here when he's been banned 6 times over. (which is why he keeps play-acting he's 'a different member.' lol)
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Just curious... Do people do this, argue with others just to get in their 30 posts? I didn't think that would count ?? I thought your posts had to be helpful to others? Maybe things have changed. It has been a few years since I was active here :)
No, FC is pretty lenient with content. So long as something substantive is posted is all that really matters.
Of course, members arguing bitterly for months on end is something I'm sure FC would like to avoid. But unfortunately, they can't seem to lose hitch, who keeps braking the rules and coming back under different names. They have no right to tell me not to argue with him, so long as he keeps coming back here when he's been banned 6 times over. (which is why he keeps play-acting he's 'a different member.' lol)
More then 1 post is marked on your "stalker"comments.Your girlfriend has laid low supporting you lately ive noticed.She didnt even wanna give u names of hitchs supporters when u asked fo them awhile back.I dont like giving her credit but she sensed your anger could push u to say something u might regret.And she was right and HERES JOHNNY!!!
His first post in this topic shows what a liar he is and how obsessed he is to punish hitch because of him defending JWs.Thats it in a nut shell.There is no other arguments going on with JWs from hitch.He doesnt force anyone to listen blah blah.Use ignore.Pass by the post if u dont agree.We dont call anyone a stalker if they dont support our bible views.
Its all in the forum.Do the research.
Hitch was thanked 117.He had some supporters and to those that didnt support him they werent in a frenzy to disagree with JWs teachings like u.When are you gonna honor him again and make a 3rd topic in his name?What did u say about flattery?
BTW did u also refer to hitch as a cretin besides stalker?Tsk tsk!
He says why should he care if Hitch was banned?LOL!!!Only reported him 30X...LOL!!
Sorry to repeat myself and i am sure most arent interested anyway.But lots of evidence on the forum for an arbitrator to mull over.
Seriously,think about it.JJ has reported us 30X.And in the past he said he remains rent free in my mind...LOL!Maybe JJ has it backwards.NOOOO JJ.....its 30 posts in the forum,not 30 posts being a crybaby to support.You dont get extra credit for that.LOL!
Id like to ask the FC members a fair question now.Who looks like they are having more fun?Hitch and his support team or Pinocchio?Geppetto <maker>needs to do something about that nose.
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Funny how all these 'Friends of hitch' joined after he was banned, post in the exact same manner he does and have the same distorted beliefs he has. lol
I have no problem with your corrupted JW views on Scripture, because I've repeatedly refuted them, while time and again you've failed to support them. All this- and I get the forum bonus! Why would I care if you were banned?
My only concern is that the rules apply to EVERYONE. You were banned- outta here! lol
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Just a reminder,hitch or his support staff had NOTHING to do with this topic being created.
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'His support staff' :D
C'mon, FC. I opened 2 support tickets. Let's make sure the rules apply to all.
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You think Ol Jedi woulda learned,the truth you cannot fight.
The only thing he'll get from this,is help close down this site
FC members,3 weeks he is gone and then still comes back to instigate.
You have cheating going on with surveys and pics supporting terrorism.
Advertisers cant be happy seeing this and it shows.
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Wow I don't know this person or what is going on but it sounds like DRAMA
Apparently, it sure is!! On going DRAMA!!!! Worse than women for sure, haha! By now most of us would've said, enough! and moved on. But these 2 seem to enjoy antagonizing each other... I just don't understand why 1 or both of you don't use the "ignore" button??!!
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Wow I don't know this person or what is going on but it sounds like DRAMA
Apparently, it sure is!! On going DRAMA!!!! Worse than women for sure, haha! By now most of us would've said, enough! and moved on. But these 2 seem to enjoy antagonizing each other... I just don't understand why 1 or both of you don't use the "ignore" button??!!
Scroll up.You will see a month went by.Frustration festering obviously.Its ez to put 2+2 together.But to his credit he reads the bible everyday.LOL!!!Instigation is a fruitage of the spirit.LOL!
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And the beat goes on! hahaha!
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And the beat goes on! hahaha!
Good song by Sonny & Cher Bertha.
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You think Ol Jedi woulda learned,the truth you cannot fight.
The only thing he'll get from this,is help close down this site
FC members,3 weeks he is gone and then still comes back to instigate.
You have cheating going on with surveys and pics supporting terrorism.
Advertisers cant be happy seeing this and it shows.
Maybe I was banned again. ;D
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Wow I don't know this person or what is going on but it sounds like DRAMA
Apparently, it sure is!! On going DRAMA!!!! Worse than women for sure, haha! By now most of us would've said, enough! and moved on. But these 2 seem to enjoy antagonizing each other... I just don't understand why 1 or both of you don't use the "ignore" button??!!
I'm just trying to see to it that the rules apply to everyone.
If hitch can flaunt the rules why can't I? Maybe I should leave some links on where you can buy my books, or my YouTube channel, or referral links to other sites? After all, if the rules don't apply for hitch, what right does FC have to stop me from breaking the TOS?
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Wow I don't know this person or what is going on but it sounds like DRAMA
Apparently, it sure is!! On going DRAMA!!!! Worse than women for sure, haha! By now most of us would've said, enough! and moved on. But these 2 seem to enjoy antagonizing each other... I just don't understand why 1 or both of you don't use the "ignore" button??!!
I'm just trying to see to it that the rules apply to everyone.
If hitch can flaunt the rules why can't I? Maybe I should leave some links on where you can buy my books, or my YouTube channel, or referral links to other sites? After all, if the rules don't apply for hitch, what right does FC have to stop me from breaking the TOS?
If you wanna do something good for FC,get on their case for cheaters with surveys and terrorist pics.
Most of us following this know you are FOS!!!This is based on your despise for JWs and my support of them.Plus Hitch supporters being here.How many reports you up to now?60?LOL!!!
You arent exactly making FC look good.
I dont care how many rules you break either whatever that means.Your chat is nonsense based on being a debating dimwit!!Then u live in a fantasy world.
Get your 30 posts then take another month off before u have ANOTHER nervous breakdown.Is the few bucks u make here cancel out the being the frustrated fool ur here?
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Not surprised Linder of your prejudice.And you were on a jury?LOL!!!What a country!!!
I also remember what happened to Jesus and the apostles RE the truth.What has been written in this forum is proof what goes on.
Lemme brief the FC members more about you Linder.
About a month she insults me by telling me i reminded her of a hung jury cos 1 other juror didnt agree with 11 of them.She was a juror.
Now look at her prejudice this post.She claims she knew nothing of the guy we support <hitch>but by her actions hes guilty.
Wouldnt you feel a little uneasy if you hadda go in front of a jury with such a person?I can just see her....i think ill find the defendant guilty cos i didnt like the way they combed their hair today.
I scolded her with her jury example using bible.It festered in her over a month till she hadda insult me again.I expected it.Prejudice ignoramus.
O way a minute.I just realized her and the debating dimwit belong to the same Babylonish nonsense.I can quote her post to him then."Its good to be us"
Reminds me of a scripture......Math 15:14 SUM PIC XRF DEV STU
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
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I can't believe this post has 5 pages! ???
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I can't believe this post has 5 pages! ???
Im sure 6 soon.
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Thanks for the vote of confidence, LL. It often feels like I'm 'a voice shouting in the wilderness' around here. But Justice should be fair and equal, otherwise it's hypercritical.
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Not surprised Linder of your prejudice.And you were on a jury?LOL!!!What a country!!!
I also remember what happened to Jesus and the apostles RE the truth.What has been written in this forum is proof what goes on.
Lemme brief the FC members more about you Linder.
About a month she insults me by telling me i reminded her of a hung jury cos 1 other juror didnt agree with 11 of them.She was a juror.
Now look at her prejudice this post.She claims she knew nothing of the guy we support <hitch>but by her actions hes guilty.
Wouldnt you feel a little uneasy if you hadda go in front of a jury with such a person?I can just see her....i think ill find the defendant guilty cos i didnt like the way they combed their hair today.
I scolded her with her jury example using bible.It festered in her over a month till she hadda insult me again.I expected it.Prejudice ignoramus.
O way a minute.I just realized her and the debating dimwit belong to the same Babylonish nonsense.I can quote her post to him then."Its good to be us"
Reminds me of a scripture......Math 15:14 SUM PIC XRF DEV STU
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
Don't talk bad about my friends. >:( I can take the abuse, but leave other folks alone.
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Not surprised Linder of your prejudice.And you were on a jury?LOL!!!What a country!!!
I also remember what happened to Jesus and the apostles RE the truth.What has been written in this forum is proof what goes on.
Lemme brief the FC members more about you Linder.
About a month she insults me by telling me i reminded her of a hung jury cos 1 other juror didnt agree with 11 of them.She was a juror.
Now look at her prejudice this post.She claims she knew nothing of the guy we support <hitch>but by her actions hes guilty.
Wouldnt you feel a little uneasy if you hadda go in front of a jury with such a person?I can just see her....i think ill find the defendant guilty cos i didnt like the way they combed their hair today.
I scolded her with her jury example using bible.It festered in her over a month till she hadda insult me again.I expected it.Prejudice ignoramus.
O way a minute.I just realized her and the debating dimwit belong to the same Babylonish nonsense.I can quote her post to him then."Its good to be us"
Reminds me of a scripture......Math 15:14 SUM PIC XRF DEV STU
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
Don't talk bad about my friends. >:( I can take the abuse, but leave other folks alone.
Go scroll in the past RE her posts insulting us.Just take some goodies for the 2 of u....u might be in that pit awhile.
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Thanks for the vote of confidence, LL. It often feels like I'm 'a voice shouting in the wilderness' around here. But Justice should be fair and equal, otherwise it's hypercritical.
O it has been fair and equal justice.The support team has balanced the scales of justice and the forum is great evidence the past 6 months....and will continue to do so.
It was quiet here for 3 weeks except for the other fool trying to speak in other topics around her insults.So 2 can play that game and then she says we are bullys...LOL!!!Funny how u guys can dish it out but cant handle getting it back.You are allllllllllll so innocent.Please.The only good thing here is in real life i dont have to see or live near you all.
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hehehe, y"all are funny!
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hehehe, y"all are funny!
and yet sad
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Well its obvious this topic isnt going to fade away into the sunset,so i was thinking of doing something positive or constructive with it.
Hitch would like to do something positive in his name.Any suggestions out there?
Do u guys want a bible discussion or just questions about life theme?
I know there will be negativity in it and we will do our best to use our clever responses to add humor to it.
Bertha is a fan right?LOL!!!
Please lemme know ur ideas RE any subjects!!!Thanx.
Maybe the versatility of this can help some of u get your 30 posts.Chat about anything.The interest seems to be there with all the views it gets.We shoulda thought of this sooner.
I noticed some of the members responses saying the forum isnt as interesting.But we all need to chip in.
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Justice always wins in the end....
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Justice always wins in the end....
Long suffering and patience are fruits of the spirit Kings.
Galatians 5:22, 23
22 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,* kindness, goodness,a faith, 23 mildness, self-control.b Against such things there is no law.
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Well its obvious this topic isnt going to fade away into the sunset,so i was thinking of doing something positive or constructive with it.
Hitch would like to do something positive in his name.Any suggestions out there?
Do u guys want a bible discussion or just questions about life theme?
I know there will be negativity in it and we will do our best to use our clever responses to add humor to it.
Bertha is a fan right?LOL!!!
Please lemme know ur ideas RE any subjects!!!Thanx.
Maybe the versatility of this can help some of u get your 30 posts.Chat about anything.The interest seems to be there with all the views it gets.We shoulda thought of this sooner.
I noticed some of the members responses saying the forum isnt as interesting.But we all need to chip in.
[/quote Then again maybe this was a bad idea.If the creator of this topic saw it getting positive action he would put a lock on it.
<sigh>I guess we will just have to deal with him saying reported again and closing in 100X.....if not there yet.He wont reveal number anymore.We quenched his foolishness.
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For whatever it's worth JediJohnnie, I'm totally on your side.
IMO, you have more than proven yourself worthy of support. :thumbsup:
As far as the Hitch problem, I have no opinion of my own. I don't know what's going on and kind of don't care, but I'm still on your side.
:fish:
Thanks for the vote of confidence, LL. It often feels like I'm 'a voice shouting in the wilderness' around here. But Justice should be fair and equal, otherwise it's hypercritical.
O it has been fair and equal justice.The support team has balanced the scales of justice and the forum is great evidence the past 6 months....and will continue to do so.
It was quiet here for 3 weeks except for the other fool trying to speak in other topics around her insults.So 2 can play that game and then she says we are bullys...LOL!!!Funny how u guys can dish it out but cant handle getting it back.You are allllllllllll so innocent.Please.The only good thing here is in real life i dont have to see or live near the instigating snakes.
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
I guess they didnt wanna hurt your feelings and tell you what a crybaby you are.....Eh Lesley?
Anybody that sends <i have no idea what the reports are up to>and moderator sees the truth of the matter might soon realize we really should ban this PITA <Jedi>!!!LOL!!!
Truly a situation of the crybaby not getting his way.How bout we dont post for a month and then tell us how much u missed us after lol!!?You know and many others here too would miss us.So loosen up Lesley....go decorate.
The thanx you get for helping him get his 30 posts.Sourpuss like Belicheck.Cant handle losing.
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You locked wrong topic.We have no interest in your Star Trek BS!!
But the Hitch Trinity Moves on...lol!!!
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I heard Vegas put up an over/under on how many reports JJ put up to complain about Hitch.
I wanna get a piece of the over no matter what it is.LOL!!!!
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
We could take advantage getting referrals but we dont cheat like others did on surveys.Our pay is our vindication and it pays dividends every day.
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
We could take advantage getting referrals but we dont cheat like others did on surveys.Our pay is our vindication and it pays dividends every day.
Put us on ignore???Lesley and the snake would give up their holidays before that happened...LOL!
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
I guess they didnt wanna hurt your feelings and tell you what a crybaby you are.....Eh Lesley?
Anybody that sends <i have no idea what the reports are up to>and moderator sees the truth of the matter might soon realize we really should ban this PITA <Jedi>!!!LOL!!!
Truly a situation of the crybaby not getting his way.How bout we dont post for a month and then tell us how much u missed us after lol!!?You know and many others here too would miss us.So loosen up Lesley....go decorate.
The thanx you get for helping him get his 30 posts.Sourpuss like Belicheck.Cant handle losing.
Calls me 'Lesley' while hiding behind the screen name 'Donna Marg' LOL The sheer irony....
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
We could take advantage getting referrals but we dont cheat like others did on surveys.Our pay is our vindication and it pays dividends every day.
Hey hitch, how much you making on FC this month?
Some of us actually, y'know, use the site and not just the message board.
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
We could take advantage getting referrals but we dont cheat like others did on surveys.Our pay is our vindication and it pays dividends every day.
Hey hitch, how much you making on FC this month?
Some of us actually, y'know, use the site and not just the message board.
I told u...Hitch had over $20 in acct back in April.He told them to keep it or send to a charity.Im sure his acct is not active or at least the $$ is gone after 6 months.
Why,u need a few bucks?We havent tried to earn here in months and i told u we know how to do referrals.But we arent dishonest plus its too much bookwork.Im sure there are some that would like to know how,but not from me.
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Ok, if fairness I haven't checked my support ticket in a while, but FC DID respond to me last week regarding the whole hitch situation.
They have previously banned his IP, but apparently he has access to many others.
They assure me that they are working on the problem and will get it dealt with in due time.
They naturally recommend putting hitch on ignore while they work on his permanent ouster.
Thanks FC. :thumbsup:
We could take advantage getting referrals but we dont cheat like others did on surveys.Our pay is our vindication and it pays dividends every day.
Hey hitch, how much you making on FC this month?
Some of us actually, y'know, use the site and not just the message board.
I told u...Hitch had over $20 in acct back in April.He told them to keep it or send to a charity.Im sure his acct is not active or at least the $$ is gone after 6 months.
Why,u need a few bucks?We havent tried to earn here in months and i told u we know how to do referrals.But we arent dishonest plus its too much bookwork.Im sure there are some that would like to know how,but not from me.
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Who is hitch and why is he banned.
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Who is hitch and why is he banned.
He had almost 4000 posts.Go look him up.Good guy that some didnt agree with how he supported bible.
But quite clever and versatile.
He wishes everyone well.
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Who is hitch and why is he banned.
Hitch is Drutts0643 at the moment.
He was banned for being nasty to other forum members and habitually forcing his JW beliefs on folks and berating them by taking verses from the bible out of context to call them satanic when they disagreed.
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Seriously JJ...go find a girlfriend
No charge.
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Seriously JJ...go find a girlfriend
No charge.
Look who's talking.
Go spend time with your wife, instead of harassing people on here for thrills.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
Yeh,its almost as confusing as the trinity is.
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Seriously JJ...go find a girlfriend
No charge.
Look who's talking.
Go spend time with your wife, instead of harassing people on here for thrills.
I think 40 yrs married speaks for it self.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
You mock the Trinity to your own destruction.
It's clearly staring you in the face.
You've still not answered how can Christ accept Thomas' worship -he literally calls Jesus 'MY GOD'- in John 20:28, while in Acts 10:25-26 Man (Peter) is not allowed to be worshiped and in Rev 22:8-9 the Angels are not allowed to accept worship? Only GOD can be worshiped!
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
You mock the Trinity to your own destruction.
It's clearly staring you in the face.
You've still not answered how can Christ accept Thomas' worship -he literally calls Jesus 'MY GOD'- in John 20:28, while in Acts 10:25-26 Man (Peter) is not allowed to be worshiped and in Rev 22:8-9 the Angels are not allowed to accept worship? Only GOD can be worshiped!
Not sure again why i bother......
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1955647
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
You mock the Trinity to your own destruction.
It's clearly staring you in the face.
You've still not answered how can Christ accept Thomas' worship -he literally calls Jesus 'MY GOD'- in John 20:28, while in Acts 10:25-26 Man (Peter) is not allowed to be worshiped and in Rev 22:8-9 the Angels are not allowed to accept worship? Only GOD can be worshiped!
Not sure again why i bother......
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1955647
So by Watchtower logic the term 'God' can be thrown around like rice at a wedding. (No wonder you guys are fixated on calling Satan the 'god' of this world.)
Again, context is key. Thomas is calling Jesus God in the proper context. He's not calling Him the god of baseball or the god of cooking rutabaga stew- he's convinced that the risen Christ before him is GOD.
Again, Peter & the Angel didn't ask "In what context are you worshiping me?" In both cases they said "Only GOD should be worshiped."
Try again.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
You mock the Trinity to your own destruction.
It's clearly staring you in the face.
You've still not answered how can Christ accept Thomas' worship -he literally calls Jesus 'MY GOD'- in John 20:28, while in Acts 10:25-26 Man (Peter) is not allowed to be worshiped and in Rev 22:8-9 the Angels are not allowed to accept worship? Only GOD can be worshiped!
Not sure again why i bother......
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1955647
So by Watchtower logic the term 'God' can be thrown around like rice at a wedding. (No wonder you guys are fixated on calling Satan the 'god' of this world.)
Again, context is key. Thomas is calling Jesus God in the proper context. He's not calling Him the god of baseball or the god of cooking rutabaga stew- he's convinced that the risen Christ before him is GOD.
Again, Peter & the Angel didn't ask "In what context are you worshiping me?" In both cases they said "Only GOD should be worshiped."
Try again.
As you know Jesus represented Jehovah who is GOD!!!Clearly Thomas knew that too.Especially after Jesus said i am ascending to my God and your God to them.
Jesus said RE his father,I have made your name known and for his name to be sanctified in Lords prayer.And Jesus never disputed Satan being god of this system.Too many think the word god is enuff.Well it isnt.The bible says there are many gods.
It would be an insult to Jesus and his father if they were god of this system for all thats gone on here.As i have put up a zillion times,,,,,my kingdom is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO part of this world Jesus said.They have allowed Satan and man try to govern themselves......and we all know the answer to that.
Kinda silly to think Jehovah created man to be a part of all tht goes on here.What kinda loving God would he be?And then to think some will die and go to heaven and some hell....makes NO sense.Again God created the earth to be inhabited...but not like this.....wake up.
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What I am trying hard to understand is why in some instances the new users openly admit to being Hitch, and in other instances refer to Hitch in the third person and deny being one and the same. That can't be helpful to his position. ???
It is called not being mentally stable. He never admitted to being hitch with the new profiles until he was called out.
Too True.
Hitch thinks that,
A) We'll believe he has some huge stable of supporters that joined FC not to earn but back him up for his 'unfair' ban.
B) This will somehow fool FC into letting him stay. (FC already told me otherwise & I'm sure none of us were dumb enough to fall for it)
But Hitch- being Mentally Unstable -isn't Machiavellian enough to play the role properly. He repeats the same tripe in each 'personality' verbatim, has the same posting & spelling style (complete with errors) and when his buttons finally get pushed, he'll drop the facade and mention things he said & happened years ago or what he's doing in his 'personal' life that gives him away.
Not the brightest bulb on the tree, that's for sure.
You miss something tho........
Do u think he really cares?
The obvious is the obvious....but frustrations filter in those that look to analyze this and see his support staff is alive and well.
Like we said earlier...if you guys can support the BS trinity.....think of us as that too....LOL!!!
You mock the Trinity to your own destruction.
It's clearly staring you in the face.
You've still not answered how can Christ accept Thomas' worship -he literally calls Jesus 'MY GOD'- in John 20:28, while in Acts 10:25-26 Man (Peter) is not allowed to be worshiped and in Rev 22:8-9 the Angels are not allowed to accept worship? Only GOD can be worshiped!
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102000250
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As you know Jesus represented Jehovah who is GOD!!!
So Thomas should have said "My Lord..... who represents Jehovah who is GOD!!!" instead of of "My Lord AND my God!" right? ???
Clearly Thomas knew that too.
And yet Thomas worships Christ.
And Christ accepts the worship.
Again, for your argument to have a leg to stand on, after Thomas says "My Lord & My God" Jesus would have to say to Thomas, "Do not worship God by proxy through me, for I am a created being. Only Jehovah must be worshiped."
Does Christ say that? ???
That's the biggest flaw with Watchtower theology. You need to rewrite the bible, for it to make any sense.
Especially after Jesus said i am ascending to my God and your God to them.
It's not too difficult to comprehend that Christ was made flesh in the Incarnation as Man is flesh. Of COURSE in this position in the Incarnation the Father is His God. That in no way nullifies the concept of the Trinity.
Jesus said RE his father,I have made your name known and for his name to be sanctified in Lords prayer.And Jesus never disputed Satan being god of this system.Too many think the word god is enuff.Well it isnt.The bible says there are many gods.
You are putting an undue emphasis on the word 'god'. Other 'gods' do not exist. The term God is meant apply to the one true God. That's what's taught in scripture.
Read: Isaiah 44:6
It would be an insult to Jesus and his father if they were god of this system for all thats gone on here.As i have put up a zillion times,,,,,my kingdom is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO part of this world Jesus said.They have allowed Satan and man try to govern themselves......and we all know the answer to that.
You're not impressing anybody by bashing America. And we get it. Man is a screw up. We knew that since the garden. But how dare you suggest that God is not the God over us. Man may listen to Satan ofttimes, but that does not negate God's authority.
Kinda silly to think Jehovah created man to be a part of all tht goes on here.What kinda loving God would he be?And then to think some will die and go to heaven and some hell....makes NO sense.Again God created the earth to be inhabited...but not like this.....wake up.
God created Man to be a part of his surroundings. We are to be in the world but not a PART of the world. I know that's been a tough one for you to grasp, but it doesn't mean cursing folks who celebrate Christmas & Birthdays. It's more about NOT championing the things God commanded against like homosexuality & fornication.
Again. There is no Justice without the Law. God would not be a Just God if He didn't punish. I hope you never have a loved one in need of Justice. You clearly don't understand the concept of the Righteous Judge.
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Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God.
Thomas knew this.
Its NOT only America Satan rulz.The entire world under him.
Holidays etc began with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean says Jehovah.
You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.You dont discern Math 24:14 for yrs Gods people obeying Jesus to preach the kingdom.You tell me of another that is doing it as organized.If you cant discern divine intervention your heart shows its true colors.
And again you dont even know Gods name.
So take your leave of absence.....send FC another zillion posts reporting and come back when you are ready to inSTINKgate!!You are like clockwork.
I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.
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Amen Drutts
The resurrected Jesus, with a nail wound mark on his hands, appears in human form to the apostle Thomas and other disciples
After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh or spirit
The Bible’s answer
The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”—1 Peter 3:18; Acts 13:34; 1 Corinthians 15:45; 2 Corinthians 5:16.
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You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.
Damn it, Drutts! You just made me spit my drink all over my laptop!
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You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.
Damn it, Drutts! You just made me spit my drink all over my laptop!
I guess we get around Uget......who knows,maybe it will work better lol!
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
For whatever it's worth, I'm totally on your side JediJohnnie. I don't like people who just bash your posts and try to make you feel bad.
:fish:
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Just popping back in to thank you for your support! Much appreciated.
I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.
And hey, if any of you want to defend the truth of the bible in my absence while I refresh the old batteries, it's always appreciated. Maybe not by hitch though! lol
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Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Eh. But you don't believe in the Triune God of the bible. The facts that Jesus is equal to the Father in essence, thereby making His death the sacrifice for our sins. The fact that He was raised to life in the same body that was crucified. In short, you don't believe in the Jesus Christ of scripture.
However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God.
The Father IS greater than Jesus--in ROLE, not essence. I've used the illustration countless times for you over the years, Lester. The POTUS is greater than I am--in ROLE, not essence. We're both flesh & blood. Jesus IS Almighty God.
Thomas knew this.
No, he called Jesus "My Lord and My God", clearly proving Watchtower theology to be false.
Its NOT only America Satan rulz.The entire world under him.
An oversimplification. Satan rules the people that follow him (either intentionally or otherwise) Unfortunately, that IS a lot of people....
Holidays etc began with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean says Jehovah.
Again this is wholly & patently false. God set up a plethora of Holy days for observance (not the least of which, the Sabbath) such as Passover & Pentecost- both of which the Apostles observed in the NT.
Again, you cannot point to any Christian observance of holiday as pagan in origin, unless you subscribe to outright superstition.
You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.You dont discern Math 24:14 for yrs Gods people obeying Jesus to preach the kingdom.You tell me of another that is doing it as organized.If you cant discern divine intervention your heart shows its true colors.
The term Jehovah Witness is not in the bible. Nor is "God's Organization". Sadly, with their denying several doctrines that are critical to obtaining Salvation, I would say their 'Organisation' has a decidedly different founder.
So take your leave of absence.....send FC another zillion posts reporting and come back when you are ready to inSTINKgate!!You are like clockwork.
I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.
Heeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeesssss Johnnie!!!!!!!!! :D
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And again you dont even know Gods name.
I'm gonna isolate this subject, because I'm so sick of the "You don't even know his NAME!" nonsense that JWs spit out.
Name me one verse where God commands the people to address Him as Jehovah. In fact, you were not allowed to speak God's name in those days out of respect. (You may even find some Jews these days that type "G-D" because they want to respect His 'name' by not typing out the full term)
God told Moses to tell the people "I Am" sent him. Shouldn't it be 'I Am's Witnesses?'
I don't like getting too technical but 'The Tetragrammaton' is the unpronounceable 4 letter name of God (YHWH) in the bible. It's typically pronounced ' Yahweh' when given vowels. Other names are often used such as Adonai. There is no strictly set-in-stone way to address the Lord God Almighty in scripture. It was the superstition of the Watchtower who feared that some other non-existent 'god' would be receiving their prayers.
Again Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the Lord says—
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.
Don't be so superstitious. There are no other 'gods' to pray to. None exist.
And finally, I contend we're not MEANT to call God by His name.
Romans 8:15
"So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children. Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”
We're not distant slaves & acolytes. We are sons & daughters of God by adoption.
Christ taught us to pray to Him by saying 'Our FATHER'. We are to address God as 'Our Father' by Jesus direct instructions. God knows who we are addressing without having to use "HIS NAME".
And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
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13 Indeed, who will harm you if you become zealous for what is good?+ 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are happy.+ However, do not fear what they fear,* nor be disturbed.+ 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper+ and deep respect.+
16 Maintain a good conscience,+ so that in whatever way you are spoken against, those who speak against you may be put to shame+ because of your good conduct as followers of Christ.+ 17 For it is better to suffer because you are doing good,+ if it is God’s will to allow it, than because you are doing evil.+ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins,+ a righteous person for unrighteous ones,+ in order to lead you to God.+ He was put to death in the flesh+ but made alive in the spirit.+ 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,+ 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting* in Noah’s day,+ while the ark was being constructed,+ in which a few people, that is, eight souls,* were carried safely through the water.+
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience),+ through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 22 He is at God’s right hand,+ for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.+
1st Peter 13-22
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Isiah 45:18 For this is what Jehovah says,
The Creator of the heavens,+ the true God,
The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it,+
Who did not create it simply for nothing,* but formed it to be inhabited:+
“I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
Math 6 :10 New International Version
your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Psalm 37:11 Play
11 But the meek will possess the earth,a
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.b
Math 24:13 New Living Translation
But the one who endures to the end will be saved.
Good to see this topic now with bible truths.As the previous post RE the scriptures in Peter,this post created for the hope of many using these bible truths.
Psalms 37:29 Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.
Isiah 12:4 4 And in that day you will say:
“Give thanks to Jehovah, call on his name,
Make his deeds known among the peoples!+
Declare that his name is exalted.+
Pretty clear
Isiah 42:8
8 I am Jehovah. That is my name;
I give my glory to no one else,*
Nor my praise to graven images.+
Even clearer
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Out of the 3 verses you give as reference, only 1 uses the term Jehovah. The rest were put there by the Watchtower's erroneous translation 'The New World Translation.'
Here's how those other passages read in the KJV:
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Again, how does this prove that God is commanding us to only refer to Him by 'HIS NAME?' And why should I take the Watchtower's word for it, when I have Jesus Christ telling me to refer to God as 'Our Father?'
BTW, I'm sure Donna won't be answering, since Hitch isn't at work anymore at this hour. He'll be using his Drutts account, I'm sure. :D
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13 Indeed, who will harm you if you become zealous for what is good?+ 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are happy.+ However, do not fear what they fear,* nor be disturbed.+ 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper+ and deep respect.+
16 Maintain a good conscience,+ so that in whatever way you are spoken against, those who speak against you may be put to shame+ because of your good conduct as followers of Christ.+ 17 For it is better to suffer because you are doing good,+ if it is God’s will to allow it, than because you are doing evil.+ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins,+ a righteous person for unrighteous ones,+ in order to lead you to God.+ He was put to death in the flesh+ but made alive in the spirit.+ 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,+ 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting* in Noah’s day,+ while the ark was being constructed,+ in which a few people, that is, eight souls,* were carried safely through the water.+
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience),+ through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 22 He is at God’s right hand,+ for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.+
1st Peter 13-22
What the heck does ANY of this have to do with my refutation of your points? Is this part of the JW programming? I prove to you there are holidays in the bible and you run and hide behind passages you believe apply to your 'persecution?' We have a real martyr here! (Or drama queen)
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
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Psalm 83:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Guess you have to ask Jedi.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Guess you have to ask Jedi.
Amen
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
Jesus only said,I have made your name known,the ONLY true God and HOLY be thy name in Lords prayer.You guys must be decendants of Pharoah who asked,who is Jehovah,i should free his people?<sigh>yes,he found out the hard way.
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
Jesus only said,I have made your name known,the ONLY true God and HOLY be thy name in Lords prayer.You guys must be decendants of Pharoah who asked,who is Jehovah,i should free his people?<sigh>yes,he found out the hard way.
Amen!!!!
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Guess you have to ask Jedi.
If u didnt care,why are u even askin?
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
So Christians already know, accept & understand that Jehovah is 'A' name of God given in the bible. And you acknowledge that God allows us to address Him by other terms, why then this air of superiority you have that we Christians "Don't Even Know His NAME!"
Drama Queen
Jesus told us to Address God as Our Father. That should be enough for you and anyone.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Because
A) I'm still waiting for FC to make good their promised total & irrevocable ban of hitch
&
B) I'm not gonna allow his warped view of scripture go unchallenged
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
So Christians already know, accept & understand that Jehovah is 'A' name of God given in the bible. And you acknowledge that God allows us to address Him by other terms, why then this air of superiority you have that we Christians "Don't Even Know His NAME!"
Drama Queen
Jesus told us to Address God as Our Father. That should be enough for you and anyone.
I will let Jehovah judge who knows HE is the TRUE God.He sees the heart of us all.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Because
A) I'm still waiting for FC to make good their promised total & irrevocable ban of hitch
&
B) I'm not gonna allow his warped view of scripture go unchallenged
Thank you Jehovah for blessing us to continue to witness the truth in this forum after the injustice to hitch supporting JW.org and your organization.You have proven you are God and answered our prayers the last 8 months with proof in Jesus name.
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Amen Drutts
The resurrected Jesus, with a nail wound mark on his hands, appears in human form to the apostle Thomas and other disciples
After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh or spirit
The Bible’s answer
The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”—1 Peter 3:18; Acts 13:34; 1 Corinthians 15:45; 2 Corinthians 5:16.
Your putting the word "Resurrected" in brackets is very telling. The Watchtower puts that word there. If you read scripture in context (which- if history has proven anything- we know you can't do) the rest of the chapter says-
"He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built."
In other words, in the time after the crucifixion and before His bodily Resurrection, Jesus spirit went to the dead and proclaimed His victory over Death. This of course, also refutes the JW concept of "Soul Sleep" since both Jesus and the spirits He proclaimed victory before, were all very active and conscious. He then rose on the 3rd day as the prophets predicted.
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
So Christians already know, accept & understand that Jehovah is 'A' name of God given in the bible. And you acknowledge that God allows us to address Him by other terms, why then this air of superiority you have that we Christians "Don't Even Know His NAME!"
Drama Queen
Jesus told us to Address God as Our Father. That should be enough for you and anyone.
I will let Jehovah judge who knows HE is the TRUE God.He sees the heart of us all.
That's a first. It seems you've been judging folks continuously since day one. Now, you're gonna let God decide? Kinda late on that epiphany, Lester. Maybe you wouldn't have been banned if that was your original outlook.
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Luke 6:42
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, allow me to remove the straw that is in your eye,’ while you yourself do not see the rafter in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to remove the straw that is in your brother’s eye.
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Looks very much like John and the Apostles had to deal with their own version of Watchtower heresy back in the day!
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
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You have to wonder sometimes how a beautiful angel could have turned himself into what he is now.His name means "resister"or "adversary"towards God,RE the devil.This scripture answers......
James 1:13-14 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed* by his own desire.+ 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile,* gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.+
Freedom of choice surely.
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
You may believe in Jesus being "born in the flesh" but that isn't what the passage is saying. Jesus 'coming' in the flesh as in coming back in the flesh. If it wasn't about His coming back to life, John would've used the term 'Born' rather than coming. It's more than a fitting rebuke to the Watchtower.
Christianity memorializes Christ's death. That's hardly a Watchtower exclusive. lol
Yeah, the JWs teach falsehoods that twist the scripture into a pretzel. Heaven help their converts. They also shun their followers that turn away from their faith- another cult staple.
So when is the end coming? According to Russel, it should've happened -what- 5 times before the 21st century? And you still take anything the Watchtower teaches as anything but laughable?
The only Babylonian influences are your superstitions imposed on scripture.
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
Given that my primary purpose for sharing that anecdote was to be one closer to reaching my 30 posts, I suppose I am okay with that.
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
You may believe in Jesus being "born in the flesh" but that isn't what the passage is saying. Jesus 'coming' in the flesh as in coming back in the flesh. If it wasn't about His coming back to life, John would've used the term 'Born' rather than coming. It's more than a fitting rebuke to the Watchtower.
Christianity memorializes Christ's death. That's hardly a Watchtower exclusive. lol
Yeah, the JWs teach falsehoods that twist the scripture into a pretzel. Heaven help their converts. They also shun their followers that turn away from their faith- another cult staple.
So when is the end coming? According to Russel, it should've happened -what- 5 times before the 21st century? And you still take anything the Watchtower teaches as anything but laughable?
The only Babylonian influences are your superstitions imposed on scripture.
If you wanted to learn how to fix a leaky faucet,youd probably buy a book on electronics!!!LOL!!!
The bible is clear on the end coming.No one knows but the father......but it comes as a thief in the night.You never take in consideration the short-comings of man.Faith is tested by that.
You claim to read and study bible.Seriously,what RU getting out of it?Much you speak of isnt even IN it!!
Like Jehovah told Pharoah,he could have disposed of him long ago but following his perfect timetable and patience it was better as it worked out.Keeping wolves like u around is no different.
God could have done the same with Satan.....gotten rid of him long ago,but then issue on universal sovereignty wouldnt have been solved.
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And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. ;)
Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...
When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......
Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.
The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.
Given that my primary purpose for sharing that anecdote was to be one closer to reaching my 30 posts, I suppose I am okay with that.
Isaiah 55:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Because
A) I'm still waiting for FC to make good their promised total & irrevocable ban of hitch
&
B) I'm not gonna allow his warped view of scripture go unchallenged
You arent even man enuff to stand up to him.The topic has 3500 views in 6 months.It takes away from his popularity.Like we could care RE surveys,ammo,Trump MAGA!!!!See how EZ it is jellyfish!!!??
FC allows a pic like that <gun pointed>and bans Hitch supporting bible.....LOL!!
OK so listen to some good advice....get your 30 posts and tell everyone you are gonna refresh your batteries while the next 2 weeks that will follow you will sign in to FC on an avg of 3X per day without your $$$ going up cos UR checking what we have to say.And then when you are about to explode from frustration................HERES JOHNNY!!!!
LOL!!
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
You may believe in Jesus being "born in the flesh" but that isn't what the passage is saying. Jesus 'coming' in the flesh as in coming back in the flesh. If it wasn't about His coming back to life, John would've used the term 'Born' rather than coming. It's more than a fitting rebuke to the Watchtower.
Christianity memorializes Christ's death. That's hardly a Watchtower exclusive. lol
Yeah, the JWs teach falsehoods that twist the scripture into a pretzel. Heaven help their converts. They also shun their followers that turn away from their faith- another cult staple.
So when is the end coming? According to Russel, it should've happened -what- 5 times before the 21st century? And you still take anything the Watchtower teaches as anything but laughable?
The only Babylonian influences are your superstitions imposed on scripture.
If you wanted to learn how to fix a leaky faucet,youd probably buy a book on electronics!!!LOL!!!
The bible is clear on the end coming.No one knows but the father......but it comes as a thief in the night.You never take in consideration the short-comings of man.Faith is tested by that.
You claim to read and study bible.Seriously,what RU getting out of it?Much you speak of isnt even IN it!!
Like Jehovah told Pharoah,he could have disposed of him long ago but following his perfect timetable and patience it was better as it worked out.Keeping wolves like u around is no different.
God could have done the same with Satan.....gotten rid of him long ago,but then issue on universal sovereignty wouldnt have been solved.
Well, that certainly didn't stop Charles T Russell & his acolytes from prognosticating the end several times during the past 100 years. One would think they'd get a clue.
But again, as the old saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
You may believe in Jesus being "born in the flesh" but that isn't what the passage is saying. Jesus 'coming' in the flesh as in coming back in the flesh. If it wasn't about His coming back to life, John would've used the term 'Born' rather than coming. It's more than a fitting rebuke to the Watchtower.
Christianity memorializes Christ's death. That's hardly a Watchtower exclusive. lol
Yeah, the JWs teach falsehoods that twist the scripture into a pretzel. Heaven help their converts. They also shun their followers that turn away from their faith- another cult staple.
So when is the end coming? According to Russel, it should've happened -what- 5 times before the 21st century? And you still take anything the Watchtower teaches as anything but laughable?
The only Babylonian influences are your superstitions imposed on scripture.
If you wanted to learn how to fix a leaky faucet,youd probably buy a book on electronics!!!LOL!!!
The bible is clear on the end coming.No one knows but the father......but it comes as a thief in the night.You never take in consideration the short-comings of man.Faith is tested by that.
You claim to read and study bible.Seriously,what RU getting out of it?Much you speak of isnt even IN it!!
Like Jehovah told Pharoah,he could have disposed of him long ago but following his perfect timetable and patience it was better as it worked out.Keeping wolves like u around is no different.
God could have done the same with Satan.....gotten rid of him long ago,but then issue on universal sovereignty wouldnt have been solved.
Well, that certainly didn't stop Charles T Russell & his acolytes from prognosticating the end several times during the past 100 years. One would think they'd get a clue.
But again, as the old saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
Who was wiser then King Solomon?And he even stumbled.
From my perspective i am old enuff to remember when many thought Armagheddon was coming in 1975 and some adjusted their way of life to fit with it.I am sure they were quite disappointed.
The bible is clear it comes as a thief in the night and Jesus said NO ONE but God knows.Its not like it wasnt in the book.
I would also like to add,from book of Job Satan claimed we would curse God to his face when suffering hardships.I dont think i have to explain why i bring that up.
Prov 27:11 Be wise my son and make my heart rejoice so i can make a reply to him that taunts me.
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OMG are you kidding me??!! You two are still going at it??!! You really should move it out of "support" and over to "off-topic" IMO. So silly and immature!!
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OMG are you kidding me??!! You two are still going at it??!! You really should move it out of "support" and over to "off-topic" IMO. So silly and immature!!
Did you know that even a fool is considered wise when they know when NOT to speak?
JJ how fast they turn on you eh?LOL!
Almost 3500 views?Seems many are curious eh?Plus now you have 1 more post to your 30.A win win!!!
Bad enuff we already have an idiot here that says no one is listening.LOL!
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2 John:7-11
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Truly a waste of time answering you,but for the sake of truth for the forum i am not sure what sect that passage is for.JWs are the only sect that obeys Jesus command to memorialize his death so its obvious they recognize him being born a man.
They also go teaching and making disciples of Jesus that he commanded teaching and preaching MILLIONS of FREE hrs of Gods word.
What makes me wonder how sane you really are....YOU know that and your dispise of them still blinds you to admit that to yourself.
When Jehovah feels the work has been done he will bring this ungodly world to its end to usher in the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling earth from heaven.Satan and his angels will be abyssed as Revelation speaks of.The graves will be emptied for many to hear the good news and decide if they will accept it or not.
Stop trying to kid yourself by your despise of the truth you can stop it.Examine your own Babylonish rubbish.I am not sure thats cause for your nonsense,or there just is NO hope for you at all.
You may believe in Jesus being "born in the flesh" but that isn't what the passage is saying. Jesus 'coming' in the flesh as in coming back in the flesh. If it wasn't about His coming back to life, John would've used the term 'Born' rather than coming. It's more than a fitting rebuke to the Watchtower.
Christianity memorializes Christ's death. That's hardly a Watchtower exclusive. lol
Yeah, the JWs teach falsehoods that twist the scripture into a pretzel. Heaven help their converts. They also shun their followers that turn away from their faith- another cult staple.
So when is the end coming? According to Russel, it should've happened -what- 5 times before the 21st century? And you still take anything the Watchtower teaches as anything but laughable?
The only Babylonian influences are your superstitions imposed on scripture.
If you wanted to learn how to fix a leaky faucet,youd probably buy a book on electronics!!!LOL!!!
The bible is clear on the end coming.No one knows but the father......but it comes as a thief in the night.You never take in consideration the short-comings of man.Faith is tested by that.
You claim to read and study bible.Seriously,what RU getting out of it?Much you speak of isnt even IN it!!
Like Jehovah told Pharoah,he could have disposed of him long ago but following his perfect timetable and patience it was better as it worked out.Keeping wolves like u around is no different.
God could have done the same with Satan.....gotten rid of him long ago,but then issue on universal sovereignty wouldnt have been solved.
Well, that certainly didn't stop Charles T Russell & his acolytes from prognosticating the end several times during the past 100 years. One would think they'd get a clue.
But again, as the old saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
Who was wiser then King Solomon?And he even stumbled.
From my perspective i am old enuff to remember when many thought Armagheddon was coming in 1975 and some adjusted their way of life to fit with it.I am sure they were quite disappointed.
The bible is clear it comes as a thief in the night and Jesus said NO ONE but God knows.Its not like it wasnt in the book.
I would also like to add,from book of Job Satan claimed we would curse God to his face when suffering hardships.I dont think i have to explain why i bring that up.
Prov 27:11 Be wise my son and make my heart rejoice so i can make a reply to him that taunts me.
Anyone who tries to predict the 'end times' when Christ said nobody knows the day & hour- including Himself while on earth- is either a false prophet, a fool or both.
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Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on????????????????
Because
A) I'm still waiting for FC to make good their promised total & irrevocable ban of hitch
&
B) I'm not gonna allow his warped view of scripture go unchallenged
You arent even man enuff to stand up to him.The topic has 3500 views in 6 months.It takes away from his popularity.Like we could care RE surveys,ammo,Trump MAGA!!!!See how EZ it is jellyfish!!!??
FC allows a pic like that <gun pointed>and bans Hitch supporting bible.....LOL!!
OK so listen to some good advice....get your 30 posts and tell everyone you are gonna refresh your batteries while the next 2 weeks that will follow you will sign in to FC on an avg of 3X per day without your $$$ going up cos UR checking what we have to say.And then when you are about to explode from frustration................HERES JOHNNY!!!!
LOL!!
Once again, your obsession is showing, Lester The Pester. lol Still keeping track of my movements on FC...like that's not obsessive and creepy.
Unlike you, I'm not inclined to 'tell people off' to give myself an undeserved air of superiority.
Frankly, everyone sees through you- including and perhaps especially the forum's other JW memebers.
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,so tell me who resurrected Jesus?You see Jesus was born twice.You see he died to prove he was mortal.Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Very soundly, I assure you. lol
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
The doctrines I teach are the pure, undiluted Gospel, unsullied by any Church, Organization or person. You can not say the same. Everything you believe comes from the prism of the Watchtower and it's early founders.
It's not 'debate' that's the issue here. I want you to think for yourself, man. The Watchtower is dragging you down and keeping you from the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
As Paul said "No man's blood can be laid at my door." I spoke plainly for you and everyone who reads this about the folly of Watchtower theology.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
I have never spoken disrespectfully of JWs. By and large they are good people who seek to do no harm. (They generally aren't radicalized to the point of violence like the followers Islam or Black Hebrew Israelites) But they are trapped in a cult by the Watchtower. All their zeal and love for God is worthless if they do not have the Jesus of the scripture as their Savior.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
Honestly, if you never want to hear from me again, it's very simple. Either
A) Ignore Me
or
B) Don't abuse folks with your JW propaganda. Let it end here. Now.
But, no. I'll be back next month and this very topic will have another 6 or 7 replies that I will need to refute. And it goes on endlessly. Is that what you really want?
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,
Understandable, seeing as how I refuted all your previous claims above.
so tell me who resurrected Jesus?
Simple question, deserving of a simple answer,
John 2:18-22
The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
You see Jesus was born twice.
That is completely and unequivalently false. Jesus is not a created being. I'd quote John 1:1, but I know it'll fall on deaf ears (eyes?) since the JW translation has already altered that verse to make it say what will fit their erroneous beliefs.
You see he died to prove he was mortal.
This is perhaps the most outlandish thing I've ever read you say for years now. But, I'm glad you finally said it, since -if you don't believe Jesus is God incarnate- why did God even send Him? Now we know. To die a painful, torturous death---just to prove He was mortal!
I find this surprising, since by your beliefs, God will not punish the souls of the corrupt in Hell, but you find it understandable that God sent His beloved Son to die an excruciating death- for no justifiable reason.
For the record, we Christians believe He died to pay our sin debt- to take God's righteous wrath upon Himself to spare us. What did the JW Jesus death accomplish? Proving He was mortal! Unreal....
Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
Again, I've explained this to you COUNTLESS times. Jesus was speaking in the incarnation. Of course The Father is greater than He. Was your father LESS than you in importance in your family? If he was, his children were certainly not obeying the command to honor your father.
Jesus never rivaled the Father because He did The WILL of the Father.
Jesus was Resurrected in the flesh- they touched and ATE with Him! They certainly recognized Him to do that! If not, who's to say the Devil didn't appear to them in spirit and mislead them all? The Watchtower theology is so broken, it creates more problems than it purports to 'fix'.
I could throw a ton more verses out there that you'll ignore, but since it's near Christmas, I'll use this one I was reading just yesterday-
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
In one brief, prophetic verse, the trinity is outlined right there in the Old Testament. Did you catch it? One more time-
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
This is Jesus Christ he's talking about-
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And what will He be called?
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Thus, equal to the Holy Spirit, who is described as The Councilor in John 14 (which we've hardly gotten into. The JWs believe the Holy Ghost is an impersonal entity, like The Force in Star Wars. Now, I'm a big Star Wars fan, but The Holy Ghost can hardly be described thus.He's a person of the trinity)
Mighty God, Did you catch that? Mighty God This is the Son being described, NOT Jehovah God.
Everlasting Father, Do I need to say anymore? The Son here is made equal with The Father God. Both Everlasting, both Eternal. Jesus was NOT created.
Prince of Peace.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
So, hey... I'm giving you a free education that most bible collages would charge you thousands for. ;D All I ask in return is that you take what I say seriously. Don't hide behind whatever the Watchtower tells you. Think for yourself. You'll find the God of the bible was never hard to find. Sola Scriptura.
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,so tell me who resurrected Jesus?You see Jesus was born twice.You see he died to prove he was mortal.Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
I will be sure to put my check in the mail to you.
I dedicate this song to you...based on the title.
Your doctrines clearly in LaLa land........https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-body/
https://youtu.be/PVVkJI_2hog
Go read how Russia has closed down the JWs and persecuted them to the point the UN was getting involved <Not that they are doing anything about it>Prophecy in Daniel RE King of the north being fulfilled.
Satan is quite angry and knows his time is short.The touching of Jehovahs eyeball will soon come into play.
We obey Jesus words.We were taught free......give free.
IC U need a few more posts to make 30.RU gonna tell us you are refreshing batteries etc and bid us GB for a few weeks?Also how many reports ru up to now with FC?I really need a good laugh.Betcha he doesnt answer...LOL!
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You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?
Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.
Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.
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You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?
Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.
Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.
So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.
Using the words propaganda and cult towards JWs doesnt exactly sound like you are complimenting them.
John 2:18-22 so Jesus resurrected himself?LOL!!The bible clearly tells us Jehovah resurrected him.
Col 1:15...so Jesus wasnt born?LOL
Eccl 9:5 clearly speaks of condition of dead as well as what God told Adam RE death and Jesus spoke of Lazarus before he resurrected him.
Yes Jesus was mortal cos he was born and died......Jehovah has NO beginning or ending.
Clearly Jesus was resurrected in the spirit NOT in the flesh.What the hec RU reading?
And your Babylonish sect is fulfilling Math 24:14?LOL!!!!
If people paid 1000s for your teachings,it would be to FINALLY shut you up!!!
Now get your 30 posts and tell us you are gonna R&R.This time i will keep a diary of it to show you are a liar.You wanna remind us you will be here every month to refute us......we can keep track also what an obsessive instigator UR as well.
I have a good idea.Remember how stores would do contests by having the public count how many jelly beans are in the jar?Lets do one with how many reports you have sent into FC so far.Few months ago it was 47.Thats everybodys clue.
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,so tell me who resurrected Jesus?You see Jesus was born twice.You see he died to prove he was mortal.Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
I will be sure to put my check in the mail to you.
I dedicate this song to you...based on the title.
Your doctrines clearly in LaLa land........https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-body/
https://youtu.be/PVVkJI_2hog
Go read how Russia has closed down the JWs and persecuted them to the point the UN was getting involved <Not that they are doing anything about it>Prophecy in Daniel RE King of the north being fulfilled.
Satan is quite angry and knows his time is short.The touching of Jehovahs eyeball will soon come into play.
We obey Jesus words.We were taught free......give free.
IC U need a few more posts to make 30.RU gonna tell us you are refreshing batteries etc and bid us GB for a few weeks?Also how many reports ru up to now with FC?I really need a good laugh.Betcha he doesnt answer...LOL!
Again, I give a well prepared and thought out presentation of why the Watchtower is scriptural poison and you run right back to hiding behind JW.Org and making your silly little snide remarks.
Your JW tract still doesn't explain the question of how do you KNOW that it was Christ that appeared to His apostles? Since you believe that Satan can make a star (lol) certainly he could've created a body (but not a body,a 'spirit creature?') that looked like (but didn't REALLY look like) Jesus to fool them all?
Again, it's a confounding & confusing mess of heresy you're playing with, with eternity at stake. How hard is it to understand Christ was raised to life in the body He was born with????? Why else would He still retain the scars and marks of his crucifixion? Why would He play 'Guess who this is' with His disciples? Your theology doesn't make a lick of sense.
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You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?
Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.
Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.
Read Romans 14. Again, Paul says having a holiday to God is allowed (God had holidays in the OT) and the Watchtower says they're from Babylon. Who am I gonna listen to? Spirit inspired Paul, or heretical Watchtower? Not a tough choice in the least.
Have you not read Isaiah 9:6 which lays out the trinity in stark detail in one verse? Go back and read it again and tell me why Isaiah called Jesus "Everlasting Father, Mighty God & Wonderful Councilor?"
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I'll cut out 90% of this post's disconcerting portion where Lester The Pester's Stalker obsession with me is on full display.
Using the words propaganda and cult towards JWs doesnt exactly sound like you are complimenting them.
The JWs are being fed a lie. That doesn't make them 'bad people'. It means that for whatever reason they want to believe whatever heresy the Watchtower teaches. In most cases it's a fairy tale existence where you 'sleep' when you die, and don't need to answer for your wrong doing.
If I may be so bold, I think the reason YOU stick with it, is because you're one of those hard headed old rascals that can never admit he was wrong. You were sold a bill of goods which I've proven time & again. Paul was able to put his past mistakes behind him and know the Truth. You could still do the same.
John 2:18-22 so Jesus resurrected himself?LOL!!The bible clearly tells us Jehovah resurrected him.
Well, then what do you do with John 2? Jesus was 'only kidding' when He said 'In Three Days I will raise it up?'
Col 1:15...so Jesus wasnt born?LOL
Jesus was born, not created. There's the difference
Eccl 9:5 clearly speaks of condition of dead as well as what God told Adam RE death and Jesus spoke of Lazarus before he resurrected him.
Eccl 9:5 is a strange passage to use to defend 'Soul Sleep'. Solomon is basically saying 'Enjoy life here on earth while you still can, because all you accomplish on earth will be forgotten by everyone else after you've died.'
God told Adam his body would return to the dust from whence it was made.
Already been through this with you over Lazarus. Jesus used Sleep as a metaphor several times in the bible. Even His Disciples didn't understand without explanation. (Jesus came right out and told them Lazarus was dead) But it's only a metaphor, because for Jesus death doesn't really exist. Luke 20:38 "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”
Yes Jesus was mortal cos he was born and died......Jehovah has NO beginning or ending.
You're gonna have to explain why God sent Jesus to die a horrible agonizing death then. Because by your theology Jesus was an abject failure. He came, preached, didn't die for our sins and didn't raise His body back to life, thus not proving His victory over Death in the Resurrection.
Clearly Jesus was resurrected in the spirit NOT in the flesh.What the hec RU reading?
If He was only Resurrected in the Spirit, why did He tell His Disciples to touch Him to prove He wasn't a Ghost?
Oh, that's right, according to C.T Russell, His body 'disappeared' from the grave and He conjured up a new body, kinda like the old body, but looking different to fool them into thinking He was raised. Your theology reduces the Son of God to a mischievous trickster. Disgraceful.
Blind!
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So much for Lester 'ending' the topic. I'm not even gone for the month, and he already had 3 replies ready. I'm still guessing he'll be up to 6 replies after I'm gone. :D
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So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.
LOL This is so pathetic. This from a guy whose sole purpose in coming here, is not to earn, but proselytize his false gospel for months after being banned. Who can't keep from replying to me for 24 hours, while I take weeks off at a time- and he has the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being obsessed.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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I wouldnt let you balance my checkbook.
You said thank you to the Linder on 11/18.Over 3 weeks went by there was peace without you.You signed on to FC at least 30X not earning and with no posts till your stomach must have burst that your reports to FC were dust in the wind and on 12/11 you instigated with us.
A proven liar for ALLLLLLLLLLL to see.
God hates liars.Did u know Satan was the father of the lie?And YOUR god!!!
Hitch has another supporter that just checked in without any posts and kept tabs secretly.The forum dates are all there.Your pants are on fire LOL!!!
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Wow. This is one long drawn out biblical, jw, christian posting. Guess I have to start at the beginning of it to see where it all began instead of reading the last page's posts.
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So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.
LOL This is so pathetic. This from a guy whose sole purpose in coming here, is not to earn, but proselytize his false gospel for months after being banned. Who can't keep from replying to me for 24 hours, while I take weeks off at a time- and he has the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being obsessed.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Even with his last post hes in denial.And i am sure he DOESNT sleep.How do we know?We have seen him on quite early in the morning,not earning but checking no doubt what WE had to say.And then he says we are obsessed.11/18 to 12/11 backs up what we say.Peace until he cant take it anymore knowing we are still here....and then he instigates with an old post of ours.His gospel is rubbish like who he really is.
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Re: Has hitch been banned....again....yet?
« Reply #109 on: November 18, 2019, 01:19:04 pm »
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Just popping back in to thank you for your support! Much appreciated.
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I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.
And hey, if any of you want to defend the truth of the bible in my absence while I refresh the old batteries, it's always appreciated. Maybe not by hitch though! lol
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Over 3 weeks go by and he realizes the support staff of hitch are alive and well....and then he blows up taking an old post and instigating.....
Re: Has hitch been banned....again....yet?
« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2019, 06:42:41 pm »
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Quote from: Drutts0643 on November 16, 2019, 06:28:47 pm
Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Eh. But you don't believe in the Triune God of the bible. The facts that Jesus is equal to the Father in essence, thereby making His death the sacrifice for our sins. The fact that He was raised to life in the same body that was crucified. In short, you don't believe in the Jesus Christ of scripture.
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However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God.
The Father IS greater than Jesus--in ROLE, not essence. I've used the illustration countless times for you over the years, Lester. The POTUS is greater than I am--in ROLE, not essence. We're both flesh & blood. Jesus IS Almighty God.
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Thomas knew this.
No, he called Jesus "My Lord and My God", clearly proving Watchtower theology to be false.
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Its NOT only America Satan rulz.The entire world under him.
An oversimplification. Satan rules the people that follow him (either intentionally or otherwise) Unfortunately, that IS a lot of people....
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Holidays etc began with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean says Jehovah.
Again this is wholly & patently false. God set up a plethora of Holy days for observance (not the least of which, the Sabbath) such as Passover & Pentecost- both of which the Apostles observed in the NT.
Again, you cannot point to any Christian observance of holiday as pagan in origin, unless you subscribe to outright superstition.
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You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.You dont discern Math 24:14 for yrs Gods people obeying Jesus to preach the kingdom.You tell me of another that is doing it as organized.If you cant discern divine intervention your heart shows its true colors.
The term Jehovah Witness is not in the bible. Nor is "God's Organization". Sadly, with their denying several doctrines that are critical to obtaining Salvation, I would say their 'Organisation' has a decidedly different founder.
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So take your leave of absence.....send FC another zillion posts reporting and come back when you are ready to inSTINKgate!!You are like clockwork.
I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.
Heeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeesssss Johnnie!!!!!!!!! :D
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Google JediJohnnie and May the Force be with you!
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Our Perry Mason past just buried him!!!!
There is nothing more satisfying then suffering injustice from someone and being able to prove they are the offspring of vipers.
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
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So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.
LOL This is so pathetic. This from a guy whose sole purpose in coming here, is not to earn, but proselytize his false gospel for months after being banned. Who can't keep from replying to me for 24 hours, while I take weeks off at a time- and he has the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being obsessed.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Even with his last post hes in denial.And i am sure he DOESNT sleep.How do we know?We have seen him on quite early in the morning,not earning but checking no doubt what WE had to say.And then he says we are obsessed.11/18 to 12/11 backs up what we say.Peace until he cant take it anymore knowing we are still here....and then he instigates with an old post of ours.His gospel is rubbish like who he really is.
Get your pen & paper ready-
Reported for obsessive harassment again.
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
I can understand why you don't bother the Mods, since they BANNED you. You're currently braking the TOS on at least two counts! :D Good luck pleading your case to them! LOL!
I honestly thought this month was going to deal more with Christmas, but in any event, I still got the chance to highlight the core tenants of Christianity and defend them from your heresy for all to see!
Sorry to disappoint you, but it's a public forum. I'm allowed to answer a post that's been up for less than 45 days. That's not 'instigating.' lol
Guess what? in a few weeks, I'll be back answering whatever you have to reply to this post!
That's how it works, sunshine!
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
So in other words, you've got your whole family keeping tabs on me, all due to your creepy obsession? Good to know! Now that I have that on record, I'm sure FC will know who else to ban! :D
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 06:46:05 pmLast Active:Today at 06:42:26 pm
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 06:46:05 pmLast Active:Today at 06:42:26 pm
Wow, can I play too?
Date Registered:September 01, 2019, 01:32:58 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 07:00:50 pmLast Active:Today at 06:46:30 pm
Date Registered:August 31, 2019, 09:10:45 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 07:02:28 pmLast Active:Today at 01:09:57 pm
::)
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 06:46:05 pmLast Active:Today at 06:42:26 pm
December 19, 2019, 10:30:21 amLast Active:Today at 09:25:52 am
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So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)
How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?
But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.
Take the L, Lester. Take the L.
Jehovah God will handle your false doctrines.Thats NOT my dept.Our dept is supporting Hitch and we do it quite well.
Hopefully your latest report will fall into the hands of a moderator that knows how to archive how you are an instigator for quite sometime....or maybe they have and just yes you to death cos they know you are a crybaby and a PITA loser!
All they have to do is archive 11/18 to 12/11 and see there was peace here until you decided to instigate again cos u see we are all heresssssssss Johnny...LOL!
We dont bother the moderators.If they cant see you are an instigator NOW,its not worth it.The proof has been there from the start and only has gotten stronger the liar you are.
Couldnt have said it better myself Donna.Hitch is well pleased.
BTW,Leggs and Eric said hi.Patricia also does too.She is our eye in the sky and doesnt post.
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 01:03:06 pmLast Active:Today at 09:44:19 am
October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 18, 2019, 06:46:05 pmLast Active:Today at 06:42:26 pm
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I wish I knew what this bizarre person was trying to prove.
Earlier in thread, he went nuts because I didn't even look at the forum for three weeks (leading him to laughably think I was banned) now he's going nuts because he's trying to prove- I dunno- that I look at the forum multiple times a day? ???
This man is insane. :D
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December 19, 2019, 03:07:19 pmLast Active:Today at 12:10:29 pm
If this is the most hitch will post from here on, I'd say it's a Christmas miracle! :D
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Oh- and because it's Christmas, I'll do you a favor and post it for you this time:
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 20, 2019, 09:51:54 amLast Active:Today at 09:51:28 am
Merry Christmas! ;D :present:
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Oh- and because it's Christmas, I'll do you a favor and post it for you this time:
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 20, 2019, 09:51:54 amLast Active:Today at 09:51:28 am
Merry Christmas! ;D :present:
Thanx,no need to do it cos u think its Jesus BD.
This is hilarious.You and the other snake send ill bet over 100 reports RE Hitch supporting bible and frustrated cos the support team has been here from day 1 and now UR mellow supporting a pagan day...LOL!
Both your true colors came out long ago.You need more then Jesus BD to help you what U guys are already made out of.
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Poor Hitch.......no attention!!
Topic been up 6 months and only 4000 views.
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
Bertha seriously,let us ask u a question.
We have stated between Jedi and Countrygirl,they probably have sent FC over 100 reports RE Hitch and his supporters.
If that doesnt qualify them as CREEPS because we support JWs...what does?
Yes i know we could obey Jesus and turn the other cheek or just ignore them,but sorry,it was not justified hitch being banned last April and everything has worked out just fine.We are all having fun exposing these creeps and liars and still supporting Gods word.
What they have done behind the scene has earned them as "offspring of vipers".
They only add to the witness being stronger.
I wouldnt be surprised everytime CG hears a creak in her house she thinks hitch might be behind it.She thinks every newbie on FC is him...LOL!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!LOL!
Then JJ says,"CYA next month"to the FC members but makes sure hes signing on without intent earning $$$ to see what WE have to say...LOL!!Then comes back to refute old posts.InSTINKgator.
I called it last month.There is peace when hes not here and CG doesnt start.But their cancerous insides fester and they give in to causing trouble.Forum posts back it up.
Thanx for listening.
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
Bertha seriously,let us ask u a question.
We have stated between Jedi and Countrygirl,they probably have sent FC over 100 reports RE Hitch and his supporters.
If that doesnt qualify them as CREEPS because we support JWs...what does?
Yes i know we could obey Jesus and turn the other cheek or just ignore them,but sorry,it was not justified hitch being banned last April and everything has worked out just fine.We are all having fun exposing these creeps and liars and still supporting Gods word.
What they have done behind the scene has earned them as "offspring of vipers".
They only add to the witness being stronger.
I wouldnt be surprised everytime CG hears a creak in her house she thinks hitch might be behind it.She thinks every newbie on FC is him...LOL!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!LOL!
Then JJ says,"CYA next month"to the FC members but makes sure hes signing on without intent earning $$$ to see what WE have to say...LOL!!Then comes back to refute old posts.InSTINKgator.
I called it last month.There is peace when hes not here and CG doesnt start.But their cancerous insides fester and they give in to causing trouble.Forum posts back it up.
Thanx for listening.
BTW...we r all happily married and NOT gay either.
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Oh- and because it's Christmas, I'll do you a favor and post it for you this time:
Date Registered:October 13, 2010, 06:21:21 pmLocal Time:December 20, 2019, 09:51:54 amLast Active:Today at 09:51:28 am
Merry Christmas! ;D :present:
If anything do your snake friend a favor sending them a post.She seems to be starving for attn cos she brings it up all the time.Guess she flunked math in school <over 4000 views>You made Hitch a celebrity JJ with this topic.I figure you are close to locking it soon cos it has backfired on you!!!
We support whatever you decide to do...LOL!
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LOL, Drutts, I hear ya on CG accusing just about every newbie of being 'Hitch'. HaHaHa! It's either obsession or possession, or both? Poor newbies, probably have no idea what she's ranting about. :turkey:
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LOL, Drutts, I hear ya on CG accusing just about every newbie of being 'Hitch'. HaHaHa! It's either obsession or possession, or both? Poor newbies, probably have no idea what she's ranting about. :turkey:
Well like i said Bertha,love us,hate us,stay neutral,etc,JJ made us a celebrity in 1 way.Id say there was some attn given...eh???
All along the supporters of Hitch never wanted to be incognito,even tho we do have 1 eye in the sky that doesnt post.
Glad to see you keep tabs on the truth.
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LOL, Drutts, I hear ya on CG accusing just about every newbie of being 'Hitch'. HaHaHa! It's either obsession or possession, or both? Poor newbies, probably have no idea what she's ranting about. :turkey:
Well like i said Bertha,love us,hate us,stay neutral,etc,JJ made us a celebrity in 1 way.Id say there was some attn given...eh???
All along the supporters of Hitch never wanted to be incognito,even tho we do have 1 eye in the sky that doesnt post.
Glad to see you keep tabs on the truth.
Amen
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
Bertha seriously,let us ask u a question.
We have stated between Jedi and Countrygirl,they probably have sent FC over 100 reports RE Hitch and his supporters.
If that doesnt qualify them as CREEPS because we support JWs...what does?
Yes i know we could obey Jesus and turn the other cheek or just ignore them,but sorry,it was not justified hitch being banned last April and everything has worked out just fine.We are all having fun exposing these creeps and liars and still supporting Gods word.
What they have done behind the scene has earned them as "offspring of vipers".
They only add to the witness being stronger.
I wouldnt be surprised everytime CG hears a creak in her house she thinks hitch might be behind it.She thinks every newbie on FC is him...LOL!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!LOL!
Then JJ says,"CYA next month"to the FC members but makes sure hes signing on without intent earning $$$ to see what WE have to say...LOL!!Then comes back to refute old posts.InSTINKgator.
I called it last month.There is peace when hes not here and CG doesnt start.But their cancerous insides fester and they give in to causing trouble.Forum posts back it up.
Thanx for listening.
Yeah, there was plenty of peace while I was gone--with you harassing folks on the 12 Days of Christmas conversation. LOL That's why you were banned. You just can't leave folks alone.
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
Try adding something to the conversation. Who knows, you might actually enjoy the thread!
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You 2 either need to get married or get a room!
Bertha seriously,let us ask u a question.
We have stated between Jedi and Countrygirl,they probably have sent FC over 100 reports RE Hitch and his supporters.
If that doesnt qualify them as CREEPS because we support JWs...what does?
Yes i know we could obey Jesus and turn the other cheek or just ignore them,but sorry,it was not justified hitch being banned last April and everything has worked out just fine.We are all having fun exposing these creeps and liars and still supporting Gods word.
What they have done behind the scene has earned them as "offspring of vipers".
They only add to the witness being stronger.
I wouldnt be surprised everytime CG hears a creak in her house she thinks hitch might be behind it.She thinks every newbie on FC is him...LOL!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!LOL!
Then JJ says,"CYA next month"to the FC members but makes sure hes signing on without intent earning $$$ to see what WE have to say...LOL!!Then comes back to refute old posts.InSTINKgator.
I called it last month.There is peace when hes not here and CG doesnt start.But their cancerous insides fester and they give in to causing trouble.Forum posts back it up.
Thanx for listening.
Yeah, there was plenty of peace while I was gone--with you harassing folks on the 12 Days of Christmas conversation. LOL That's why you were banned. You just can't leave folks alone.
So lemme understand this.....the 12 days of Xmas is refuted and we harass.....but you refute JW.org and that isnt?LOL!!!
One of the JW on FC said awhile ago we shouldnt try to win debates or arguments,just hearts.Amen to her.
Cya
PS i am sure you will have to wait in line to badger the JWs on u-Tube.
Just remember "the world is passing away and so is its desire,but he who does the will of God remains forever.
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The folks that started the 12 Days topic were in it to have a good time discussing it and enjoying themselves. Then 'Pharisee Lester' gotta show up and start berating people over the Watchtower's silly superstitions. Don't you get it? That's why you were banned.
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The folks that started the 12 Days topic were in it to have a good time discussing it and enjoying themselves. Then 'Pharisee Lester' gotta show up and start berating people over the Watchtower's silly superstitions. Don't you get it? That's why you were banned.
Actually the ONLY STUPERstition here is that someone was banned!!!!HAAAAAAAAAA
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Umm...I told myself I was not going to get in the middle of this...but Jedi is right. I only started the '12 Days of Christmas' topic to have a lighthearted discussion about the song itself (and most everyone's heard it). Of course, it is biblical in origin, but over the years the song has poked fun at the commercialization of giving presents at Christmas.
Hitch & Co. -- please give it a rest and don't take things so seriously. Yes, your 1st Amendment rights do protect you. We get that. I am a well-educated reader of the Bible, too. I only recently discovered the many books that have arisen out of Genesis 6 discussing the mysterious identity of both the “sons of God” and the Nephilim. This is a fascinating topic for both Bible scholars and everyday people.
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Umm...I told myself I was not going to get in the middle of this...but Jedi is right. I only started the '12 Days of Christmas' topic to have a lighthearted discussion about the song itself (and most everyone's heard it). Of course, it is biblical in origin, but over the years the song has poked fun at the commercialization of giving presents at Christmas.
Hitch & Co. -- please give it a rest and don't take things so seriously. Yes, your 1st Amendment rights do protect you. We get that. I am a well-educated reader of the Bible, too. I only recently discovered the many books that have arisen out of Genesis 6 discussing the mysterious identity of both the “sons of God” and the Nephilim. This is a fascinating topic for both Bible scholars and everyday people.
Well please show us the 12 days of Xmas using the bible?Also JJ doesnt support the Nephillm.And getting back to Xmas,dont ya think if God wanted us to know date of Jesus BD he would have showed us as he did the date of his execution?
I could care less about my 1st amendment rights.When mans laws compromise Gods laws i direct you to what Peter said.We must obey God as ruler.
I know its EZ to fall prey from snare of man in this world.But truth be Xmas is a pagan holiday influenced by Gods enemy Satan.Would you support something that was brought on by an enemy of yours?Im just asking you to see how God views it.NOT mankind or Satan.
I hope you didnt pay for your bible studies.Jesus said to learn and give free the truth.
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Umm...I told myself I was not going to get in the middle of this...but Jedi is right. I only started the '12 Days of Christmas' topic to have a lighthearted discussion about the song itself (and most everyone's heard it). Of course, it is biblical in origin, but over the years the song has poked fun at the commercialization of giving presents at Christmas.
Hitch & Co. -- please give it a rest and don't take things so seriously. Yes, your 1st Amendment rights do protect you. We get that. I am a well-educated reader of the Bible, too. I only recently discovered the many books that have arisen out of Genesis 6 discussing the mysterious identity of both the “sons of God” and the Nephilim. This is a fascinating topic for both Bible scholars and everyday people.
Well please show us the 12 days of Xmas using the bible?Also JJ doesnt support the Nephillm.And getting back to Xmas,dont ya think if God wanted us to know date of Jesus BD he would have showed us as he did the date of his execution?
I could care less about my 1st amendment rights.When mans laws compromise Gods laws i direct you to what Peter said.We must obey God as ruler.
I know its EZ to fall prey from snare of man in this world.But truth be Xmas is a pagan holiday influenced by Gods enemy Satan.Would you support something that was brought on by an enemy of yours?Im just asking you to see how God views it.NOT mankind or Satan.
I hope you didnt pay for your bible studies.Jesus said to learn and give free the truth.
The 12 Days of Christmas doesn't NEED to be in the bible. It was used to teach young children biblical truths back in the Middle Ages.
I've gone over this a thousand times with hitch. He's either purposefully obtuse or incapable of understanding this verse from scripture
Romans 14 5-6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord.
and 13-14
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean.
No one is saying you MUST celebrate Christmas to be saved, but Paul is very clear you must not pass judgement on those who celebrate a 'special day' for the Lord.
I've examined & addressed every claim made against Christmas and he's yet to have one be justifiable.
Keep trying, hitch. SMH
And for the record, I have strong evidence for my opinions on the Nephilim, but that's hardly a topic that's incumbent for salvation. John MacArthur believes the Nephilim were supernatural creatures as well, yet I hardly have reason to question his salvation.
We can have theological disagreements without calling folks the spawn of Satan. I know it's a rough concept for you to grasp, but it CAN happen. lol
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How Does Jesus Christ View Christmas?
If a celebration was to be held in your honor, would not your approval of its nature be of importance? Therefore, we do well to ask: Does the Bible indicate how Jesus views traditions steeped in paganism?
Jesus condemned religious leaders who compromised pure worship to gain converts. He said to such leaders: “You [travel] sea and land to make a single convert, and then you make him twice as ripe for destruction as you are yourselves.”—Matthew 23:15, Phillips.
Conversion was not to be accomplished by blending pagan and Christian beliefs. Paul, an apostle of Jesus, wrote to Christians living in Corinth: “You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons.” (1 Corinthians 10:21) And in his next letter to them, Paul added: “Don’t link up with unbelievers and try to work with them. . . . How can there be harmony between Christ and the devil?”—2 Corinthians 6:14, 15, Phillips.
If a conscientious mother saw her child pick up candy from a sewage-filled gutter, she would insist that he get rid of it immediately. The thought of his eating it—even touching it—repels her. Christmas, though sweet to many, has been picked up from unsavory places. Jesus’ sentiments match those of the prophet Isaiah, who urged true worshipers of his day: “Turn away, turn away, get out of there, touch nothing unclean.”—Isaiah 52:11.
Therefore, true Christians today do not celebrate Christmas. While their position may seem strange to others, they view traditions as did Jesus. When asked: “Why is it your disciples overstep the tradition of the men of former times?” he replied: “Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?” And he added: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matthew 15:2, 3, 6.
True Christians today manifest unity with Jesus by practicing “the form of worship that is clean and undefiled,” untarnished by the pagan traditions of men.—James 1:27.
[Blurb on page 13]
“Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?”—Matthew 15:3
Cited Scripture
Matthew 15:3
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
3 In reply he said to them: “Why do you overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?+
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Umm...I told myself I was not going to get in the middle of this...but Jedi is right. I only started the '12 Days of Christmas' topic to have a lighthearted discussion about the song itself (and most everyone's heard it). Of course, it is biblical in origin, but over the years the song has poked fun at the commercialization of giving presents at Christmas.
Hitch & Co. -- please give it a rest and don't take things so seriously. Yes, your 1st Amendment rights do protect you. We get that. I am a well-educated reader of the Bible, too. I only recently discovered the many books that have arisen out of Genesis 6 discussing the mysterious identity of both the “sons of God” and the Nephilim. This is a fascinating topic for both Bible scholars and everyday people.
Well please show us the 12 days of Xmas using the bible?Also JJ doesnt support the Nephillm.And getting back to Xmas,dont ya think if God wanted us to know date of Jesus BD he would have showed us as he did the date of his execution?
I could care less about my 1st amendment rights.When mans laws compromise Gods laws i direct you to what Peter said.We must obey God as ruler.
I know its EZ to fall prey from snare of man in this world.But truth be Xmas is a pagan holiday influenced by Gods enemy Satan.Would you support something that was brought on by an enemy of yours?Im just asking you to see how God views it.NOT mankind or Satan.
I hope you didnt pay for your bible studies.Jesus said to learn and give free the truth.
The 12 Days of Christmas doesn't NEED to be in the bible. It was used to teach young children biblical truths back in the Middle Ages.
I've gone over this a thousand times with hitch. He's either purposefully obtuse or incapable of understanding this verse from scripture
Romans 14 5-6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord.
and 13-14
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean.
No one is saying you MUST celebrate Christmas to be saved, but Paul is very clear you must not pass judgement on those who celebrate a 'special day' for the Lord.
I've examined & addressed every claim made against Christmas and he's yet to have one be justifiable.
Keep trying, hitch. SMH
And for the record, I have strong evidence for my opinions on the Nephilim, but that's hardly a topic that's incumbent for salvation. John MacArthur believes the Nephilim were supernatural creatures as well, yet I hardly have reason to question his salvation.
We can have theological disagreements without calling folks the spawn of Satan. I know it's a rough concept for you to grasp, but it CAN happen. lol
Everything you support ISNT in the bible.So what else is new?
YOU a goody two shoes?
Your ignorance makes you a DUMB comedian!!
Anyone that sends in 47 reports <and im sure its much higher>to FC RE OUR supporting of bible in ANY language is a POS!!Spawn of Satan would be too kind.You are a POS!!!You have more then proven it.Send in some more report,that seems to give u temporary relief even tho by now im sure even FC knows you are a POS too.
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Wow I don'y think I know or have paid attention to any of his posts.Sounds like a character
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Wow I don'y think I know or have paid attention to any of his posts.Sounds like a character
That's putting it mildly. :D
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How Does Jesus Christ View Christmas?
If a celebration was to be held in your honor, would not your approval of its nature be of importance? Therefore, we do well to ask: Does the Bible indicate how Jesus views traditions steeped in paganism?
Jesus condemned religious leaders who compromised pure worship to gain converts. He said to such leaders: “You [travel] sea and land to make a single convert, and then you make him twice as ripe for destruction as you are yourselves.”—Matthew 23:15, Phillips.
Conversion was not to be accomplished by blending pagan and Christian beliefs. Paul, an apostle of Jesus, wrote to Christians living in Corinth: “You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons.” (1 Corinthians 10:21) And in his next letter to them, Paul added: “Don’t link up with unbelievers and try to work with them. . . . How can there be harmony between Christ and the devil?”—2 Corinthians 6:14, 15, Phillips.
If a conscientious mother saw her child pick up candy from a sewage-filled gutter, she would insist that he get rid of it immediately. The thought of his eating it—even touching it—repels her. Christmas, though sweet to many, has been picked up from unsavory places. Jesus’ sentiments match those of the prophet Isaiah, who urged true worshipers of his day: “Turn away, turn away, get out of there, touch nothing unclean.”—Isaiah 52:11.
Therefore, true Christians today do not celebrate Christmas. While their position may seem strange to others, they view traditions as did Jesus. When asked: “Why is it your disciples overstep the tradition of the men of former times?” he replied: “Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?” And he added: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matthew 15:2, 3, 6.
True Christians today manifest unity with Jesus by practicing “the form of worship that is clean and undefiled,” untarnished by the pagan traditions of men.—James 1:27.
[Blurb on page 13]
“Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?”—Matthew 15:3
Cited Scripture
Matthew 15:3
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
3 In reply he said to them: “Why do you overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?+
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Again, you can quote Watchtower tracts until you're blue in the face. You're not addressing the question. How is "paganism" being used in the celebration of Christmas? I already had to enlighten you on the origins of the Christmas Tree, shall I do so about Santa Claus too?
St Nicholas was a Christian in the late 3rd century, known for his secret acts of charity. Does that sound "pagan" to you?
I suppose you never let your kids read The Lion The Witch & the Wardrobe by C.S Lewis either, eh? Can't have fantasy based in Christianity with you guys, or you'll automatically label it 'Pagan".
But, no...you're NOT superstitious....right? lol
Tradition isn't an inherently evil thing. To put Christ's words in context (as I'm wont to do when you habitually take them out of context) Jesus pointed out the Pharisees corruption- hidden under the dressing of "tradition".
Mark 7 :8-13 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
So, as you see in comparison, Jesus is talking about the pharisees taking money that could go to needy (presumably elderly) parents. That's the same as celebrating Christmas? The Watchtower should be embarrassed with how they fleece the gullible with their flimsy reasoning. But as Barnum said, there's one born every minute...
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Wow I don'y think I know or have paid attention to any of his posts.Sounds like a character
Right on.Anyone that sends in that many reports is quite obsessive and a real creep.You can go back to the beginning of this topic and read about all the attempts and the bragging at the end of the posts.
Lately He doesnt speak of sending in reports to FC cos he realizes how foolish he was and FC DOESNT obviously wanna hear the crybaby.
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Wow I don'y think I know or have paid attention to any of his posts.Sounds like a character
Right on.Anyone that sends in that many reports is quite obsessive and a real creep.You can go back to the beginning of this topic and read about all the attempts and the bragging at the end of the posts.
Lately He doesnt speak of sending in reports to FC cos he realizes how foolish he was and FC DOESNT obviously wanna hear the crybaby.
Why should I tell you when I'm reporting you, when you obviously thrive on the attention?
Just keep wondering how many reports we're up to now. :D
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Seriously JJ,over 4600 views?You owe it to your FC audience and Hitch how many reports now?
If you worked as hard on earning $$$ on FC as u were tryin to get us banned,you woulda passed OldBuddy in earnings!!!
LOL!
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Seriously JJ,over 4600 views?You owe it to your FC audience and Hitch how many reports now?
If you worked as hard on earning $$$ on FC as u were tryin to get us banned,you woulda passed OldBuddy in earnings!!!
LOL!
Needless to say, you're not even here to earn, by your own admission! Try a little of your own advice.
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Seriously JJ,over 4600 views?You owe it to your FC audience and Hitch how many reports now?
If you worked as hard on earning $$$ on FC as u were tryin to get us banned,you woulda passed OldBuddy in earnings!!!
LOL!
Needless to say, you're not even here to earn, by your own admission! Try a little of your own advice.
Money cannot take the place of what we have accomplished since Hitch was banned.
And as a reminder it would be quite EZ to rack up getting referrals......if we chose to do so but dont.
And Gods people have been banned before and as Jesus said,the stones would cry out if need be."
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Yes, you've certainly accomplished a lot. I'm sure you and your imaginary followers have MUCH to be proud of. ;D
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Seriously JJ,over 4600 views?You owe it to your FC audience and Hitch how many reports now?
If you worked as hard on earning $$$ on FC as u were tryin to get us banned,you woulda passed OldBuddy in earnings!!!
LOL!
Needless to say, you're not even here to earn, by your own admission! Try a little of your own advice.
Money cannot take the place of what we have accomplished since Hitch was banned.
And as a reminder it would be quite EZ to rack up getting referrals......if we chose to do so but dont.
And Gods people have been banned before and as Jesus said,the stones would cry out if need be."
Hey Drutts,i didnt know we were invisible!!LOL!
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If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
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If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
We really could care less how many Xs you sign off/on.We just get a kick out of you telling everyone you are going on vacation or wont be on for awhile and check in 3/4Xs a day to see whats new with us...LOL!!
Then like we have said a zillion times when your stomach festers to the point where u have to go into your refuting mode...BINGO!!
We can leave you alone..trust that.And your snake GF thinks we dont see her shots here and there.LOL!!
The FESTER Twins U and CG!!LOL!!
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Very soundly, I assure you. lol
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
The doctrines I teach are the pure, undiluted Gospel, unsullied by any Church, Organization or person. You can not say the same. Everything you believe comes from the prism of the Watchtower and it's early founders.
It's not 'debate' that's the issue here. I want you to think for yourself, man. The Watchtower is dragging you down and keeping you from the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
As Paul said "No man's blood can be laid at my door." I spoke plainly for you and everyone who reads this about the folly of Watchtower theology.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
I have never spoken disrespectfully of JWs. By and large they are good people who seek to do no harm. (They generally aren't radicalized to the point of violence like the followers Islam or Black Hebrew Israelites) But they are trapped in a cult by the Watchtower. All their zeal and love for God is worthless if they do not have the Jesus of the scripture as their Savior.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
Honestly, if you never want to hear from me again, it's very simple. Either
A) Ignore Me
or
B) Don't abuse folks with your JW propaganda. Let it end here. Now.
But, no. I'll be back next month and this very topic will have another 6 or 7 replies that I will need to refute. And it goes on endlessly. Is that what you really want?
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,
Understandable, seeing as how I refuted all your previous claims above.
so tell me who resurrected Jesus?
Simple question, deserving of a simple answer,
John 2:18-22
The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
You see Jesus was born twice.
That is completely and unequivalently false. Jesus is not a created being. I'd quote John 1:1, but I know it'll fall on deaf ears (eyes?) since the JW translation has already altered that verse to make it say what will fit their erroneous beliefs.
You see he died to prove he was mortal.
This is perhaps the most outlandish thing I've ever read you say for years now. But, I'm glad you finally said it, since -if you don't believe Jesus is God incarnate- why did God even send Him? Now we know. To die a painful, torturous death---just to prove He was mortal!
I find this surprising, since by your beliefs, God will not punish the souls of the corrupt in Hell, but you find it understandable that God sent His beloved Son to die an excruciating death- for no justifiable reason.
For the record, we Christians believe He died to pay our sin debt- to take God's righteous wrath upon Himself to spare us. What did the JW Jesus death accomplish? Proving He was mortal! Unreal....
Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
Again, I've explained this to you COUNTLESS times. Jesus was speaking in the incarnation. Of course The Father is greater than He. Was your father LESS than you in importance in your family? If he was, his children were certainly not obeying the command to honor your father.
Jesus never rivaled the Father because He did The WILL of the Father.
Jesus was Resurrected in the flesh- they touched and ATE with Him! They certainly recognized Him to do that! If not, who's to say the Devil didn't appear to them in spirit and mislead them all? The Watchtower theology is so broken, it creates more problems than it purports to 'fix'.
I could throw a ton more verses out there that you'll ignore, but since it's near Christmas, I'll use this one I was reading just yesterday-
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
In one brief, prophetic verse, the trinity is outlined right there in the Old Testament. Did you catch it? One more time-
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
This is Jesus Christ he's talking about-
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And what will He be called?
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Thus, equal to the Holy Spirit, who is described as The Councilor in John 14 (which we've hardly gotten into. The JWs believe the Holy Ghost is an impersonal entity, like The Force in Star Wars. Now, I'm a big Star Wars fan, but The Holy Ghost can hardly be described thus.He's a person of the trinity)
Mighty God, Did you catch that? Mighty God This is the Son being described, NOT Jehovah God.
Everlasting Father, Do I need to say anymore? The Son here is made equal with The Father God. Both Everlasting, both Eternal. Jesus was NOT created.
Prince of Peace.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
So, hey... I'm giving you a free education that most bible collages would charge you thousands for. ;D All I ask in return is that you take what I say seriously. Don't hide behind whatever the Watchtower tells you. Think for yourself. You'll find the God of the bible was never hard to find. Sola Scriptura.
https://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-is-jesus-called-eternal-father-at.html
http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-did-thomas-say-my-lord-and-my-god.html
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This is a new year, let's just be good to each other....
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Oh my this seems to be a long standing argument.
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If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
We really could care less how many Xs you sign off/on.We just get a kick out of you telling everyone you are going on vacation or wont be on for awhile and check in 3/4Xs a day to see whats new with us...LOL!!
Then like we have said a zillion times when your stomach festers to the point where u have to go into your refuting mode...BINGO!!
We can leave you alone..trust that.And your snake GF thinks we dont see her shots here and there.LOL!!
The FESTER Twins U and CG!!LOL!!
I'm not willing that your false doctrine will fool even one person, Lester.
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If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
We really could care less how many Xs you sign off/on.We just get a kick out of you telling everyone you are going on vacation or wont be on for awhile and check in 3/4Xs a day to see whats new with us...LOL!!
Then like we have said a zillion times when your stomach festers to the point where u have to go into your refuting mode...BINGO!!
We can leave you alone..trust that.And your snake GF thinks we dont see her shots here and there.LOL!!
The FESTER Twins U and CG!!LOL!!
I'm not willing that your false doctrine will fool even one person, Lester.
My false doctrine?Sorry,i am just a discreet slave to the Word of Jehovah.
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Oh my this seems to be a long standing argument.
An understatement to be sure...
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This is a new year, let's just be good to each other....
If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
We really could care less how many Xs you sign off/on.We just get a kick out of you telling everyone you are going on vacation or wont be on for awhile and check in 3/4Xs a day to see whats new with us...LOL!!
Then like we have said a zillion times when your stomach festers to the point where u have to go into your refuting mode...BINGO!!
We can leave you alone..trust that.And your snake GF thinks we dont see her shots here and there.LOL!!
The FESTER Twins U and CG!!LOL!!
I'm not willing that your false doctrine will fool even one person, Lester.
My false doctrine?Sorry,i am just a discreet slave to the Word of Jehovah.
You mean a slave of Jehovah Witness bad theology to be sure.....
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Hey hitch, since you're so fond of dropping links instead of manning up and answering things in your own words, I'll drop a link and ask what you think of this upcoming special about the JWs covering up for sexual predators among their ranks.
https://www.oxygen.com/the-witnesses/crime-news/jehovahs-witnesses-keep-secret-database-of-potential-sexual-predators
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So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:
Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh
Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.
God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.
Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'
God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible
Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21
The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")
The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.
The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.
John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.
Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?
I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear? ???
You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.
Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?
Very soundly, I assure you. lol
Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.
I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.
The doctrines I teach are the pure, undiluted Gospel, unsullied by any Church, Organization or person. You can not say the same. Everything you believe comes from the prism of the Watchtower and it's early founders.
It's not 'debate' that's the issue here. I want you to think for yourself, man. The Watchtower is dragging you down and keeping you from the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
As Paul said "No man's blood can be laid at my door." I spoke plainly for you and everyone who reads this about the folly of Watchtower theology.
What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.
Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.
I have never spoken disrespectfully of JWs. By and large they are good people who seek to do no harm. (They generally aren't radicalized to the point of violence like the followers Islam or Black Hebrew Israelites) But they are trapped in a cult by the Watchtower. All their zeal and love for God is worthless if they do not have the Jesus of the scripture as their Savior.
Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.
Honestly, if you never want to hear from me again, it's very simple. Either
A) Ignore Me
or
B) Don't abuse folks with your JW propaganda. Let it end here. Now.
But, no. I'll be back next month and this very topic will have another 6 or 7 replies that I will need to refute. And it goes on endlessly. Is that what you really want?
I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,
Understandable, seeing as how I refuted all your previous claims above.
so tell me who resurrected Jesus?
Simple question, deserving of a simple answer,
John 2:18-22
The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
You see Jesus was born twice.
That is completely and unequivalently false. Jesus is not a created being. I'd quote John 1:1, but I know it'll fall on deaf ears (eyes?) since the JW translation has already altered that verse to make it say what will fit their erroneous beliefs.
You see he died to prove he was mortal.
This is perhaps the most outlandish thing I've ever read you say for years now. But, I'm glad you finally said it, since -if you don't believe Jesus is God incarnate- why did God even send Him? Now we know. To die a painful, torturous death---just to prove He was mortal!
I find this surprising, since by your beliefs, God will not punish the souls of the corrupt in Hell, but you find it understandable that God sent His beloved Son to die an excruciating death- for no justifiable reason.
For the record, we Christians believe He died to pay our sin debt- to take God's righteous wrath upon Himself to spare us. What did the JW Jesus death accomplish? Proving He was mortal! Unreal....
Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.
Again, I've explained this to you COUNTLESS times. Jesus was speaking in the incarnation. Of course The Father is greater than He. Was your father LESS than you in importance in your family? If he was, his children were certainly not obeying the command to honor your father.
Jesus never rivaled the Father because He did The WILL of the Father.
Jesus was Resurrected in the flesh- they touched and ATE with Him! They certainly recognized Him to do that! If not, who's to say the Devil didn't appear to them in spirit and mislead them all? The Watchtower theology is so broken, it creates more problems than it purports to 'fix'.
I could throw a ton more verses out there that you'll ignore, but since it's near Christmas, I'll use this one I was reading just yesterday-
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
In one brief, prophetic verse, the trinity is outlined right there in the Old Testament. Did you catch it? One more time-
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
This is Jesus Christ he's talking about-
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And what will He be called?
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Thus, equal to the Holy Spirit, who is described as The Councilor in John 14 (which we've hardly gotten into. The JWs believe the Holy Ghost is an impersonal entity, like The Force in Star Wars. Now, I'm a big Star Wars fan, but The Holy Ghost can hardly be described thus.He's a person of the trinity)
Mighty God, Did you catch that? Mighty God This is the Son being described, NOT Jehovah God.
Everlasting Father, Do I need to say anymore? The Son here is made equal with The Father God. Both Everlasting, both Eternal. Jesus was NOT created.
Prince of Peace.
So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!
Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.
So, hey... I'm giving you a free education that most bible collages would charge you thousands for. ;D All I ask in return is that you take what I say seriously. Don't hide behind whatever the Watchtower tells you. Think for yourself. You'll find the God of the bible was never hard to find. Sola Scriptura.
https://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-is-jesus-called-eternal-father-at.html
http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-did-thomas-say-my-lord-and-my-god.html
I think I've dealt with both of these tracts before. For the record, the above is but a word salad designed to quibble over whether 'Father means Father God' (in the context used, it does) and the below one is another sad attempt at denying Christ's divinity by hiding behind the verse "No Man may see the Father." That may be true, but Jesus is the Son-God in the flesh- of which there is no such prohibition.
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This is a new year, let's just be good to each other....
If only you'd go back to just stalking my FC log-ins instead of posting your jibba jabba, you might make yourself look only slightly more sane. lol.
We really could care less how many Xs you sign off/on.We just get a kick out of you telling everyone you are going on vacation or wont be on for awhile and check in 3/4Xs a day to see whats new with us...LOL!!
Then like we have said a zillion times when your stomach festers to the point where u have to go into your refuting mode...BINGO!!
We can leave you alone..trust that.And your snake GF thinks we dont see her shots here and there.LOL!!
The FESTER Twins U and CG!!LOL!!
I'm not willing that your false doctrine will fool even one person, Lester.
My false doctrine?Sorry,i am just a discreet slave to the Word of Jehovah.
You mean a slave of Jehovah Witness bad theology to be sure.....
2nd Tim 3 :16 16 All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,* for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
I guess if thats how u feel,how come u dont get on Jesus case RE Judas?
LEMME answer.......you are in desperation mode.
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,a
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
I guess if thats how u feel,how come u dont get on Jesus case RE Judas?
LEMME answer.......you are in desperation mode.
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,a
I'd hate to think that you were comparing Jesus to the Watchtower. Jesus- having the omnipotence of God.
You're not answering the question. Why would 'God's Organisation' be subject to such flaws as to covering up predators? Doesn't that make them as bad as the Catholic Church? Isn't your congregation as flawed and worldly as they? How can you throw stones?
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
I guess if thats how u feel,how come u dont get on Jesus case RE Judas?
LEMME answer.......you are in desperation mode.
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,a
I'd hate to think that you were comparing Jesus to the Watchtower. Jesus- having the omnipotence of God.
You're not answering the question. Why would 'God's Organisation' be subject to such flaws as to covering up predators? Doesn't that make them as bad as the Catholic Church? Isn't your congregation as flawed and worldly as they? How can you throw stones?
The 10 people that are in your whatever you call yourselves......any predators among the 10?I certainly know there is an AH!!
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You are wasting time...isnt it about time you worked on that ultimatum to FC!!
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
I guess if thats how u feel,how come u dont get on Jesus case RE Judas?
LEMME answer.......you are in desperation mode.
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,a
I'd hate to think that you were comparing Jesus to the Watchtower. Jesus- having the omnipotence of God.
You're not answering the question. Why would 'God's Organisation' be subject to such flaws as to covering up predators? Doesn't that make them as bad as the Catholic Church? Isn't your congregation as flawed and worldly as they? How can you throw stones?
The 10 people that are in your whatever you call yourselves......any predators among the 10?I certainly know there is an AH!!
Pretty cavalier attitude to have considering your 'Organisation' is covering up predators...
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You are wasting time...isnt it about time you worked on that ultimatum to FC!!
I always have time for Truth, Lester, you know that.....
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For the MOCK you speak of,Jehovah will judge you......sooon
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You are wasting time...isnt it about time you worked on that ultimatum to FC!!
I always have time for Truth, Lester, you know that.....
You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ASSteroid.
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Wasnt Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven?
Remove the bad one from among you.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957322
So you're saying "God's Organisation" has it's own share of predators? How is that possible?
I seem to remember you mocking the Catholic Church for it's share of 'indiscretions.'
That's what happens when you put your faith in any organisation, over God.
I guess if thats how u feel,how come u dont get on Jesus case RE Judas?
LEMME answer.......you are in desperation mode.
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,a
I'd hate to think that you were comparing Jesus to the Watchtower. Jesus- having the omnipotence of God.
You're not answering the question. Why would 'God's Organisation' be subject to such flaws as to covering up predators? Doesn't that make them as bad as the Catholic Church? Isn't your congregation as flawed and worldly as they? How can you throw stones?
The 10 people that are in your whatever you call yourselves......any predators among the 10?I certainly know there is an AH!!
Pretty cavalier attitude to have considering your 'Organisation' is covering up predators...
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957322
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957322
You refute allegations about JW coverups for predators by posting a link....about tithes? ???
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I don't think it has. Happy earning!
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He may have been but looks like there is a clone...
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957322
You refute allegations about JW coverups for predators by posting a link....about tithes? ???
I think this link is what sent hitch into hiding the first time. Maybe it'll work again.
Hey hitch, care to comment on the sex abuse scandal the Watchtower tried to cover up? ???
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I guess you care to keep this topic going eh?
We really dont care but understand your obsession and frustration with us.
There are 10 million baptized JWs in the world.Sorry to tell you i dont know any 1 of their sexual life.Go do your own investigation cos obviously you need to believe something about them to throw them to the wolves.Meanwhile while all other religeons are crumbling in the world ,people are realizing if they wanna live in a peaceful world with righteous conditions forever,they are the answer.
You can do the research yourself,even tho that doesnt matter cos ur blind.
Go work on your ultimatum to FC and a reminder........YOU LOST!!!
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645.Looks like u had enuff for now.Catch up with u real soon again.
I guess CG NOT as interesting as we are for u.LOL!
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JJ is over-due.
I wonder if a spaceship came and got him?
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The Watchtower has covered up sex abuse cases. Why do you loath Catholics then, when it's going on in your own 'house?' (That's right, I forgot. Somebody once told you you'd go to hell for eating a ham sandwich on Friday. Silly me. If you believed that, no wonder you believe whatever the Watchtower tells you. lol)
Anyway, I'm done for the month, so you'll have to satisfy yourself with arguing with that spazmatic over in your "April Fools" thread for the time being. (I wonder if celebrating April Fools is a part of Babylon? ???)
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The Watchtower has covered up sex abuse cases. Why do you loath Catholics then, when it's going on in your own 'house?' (That's right, I forgot. Somebody once told you you'd go to hell for eating a ham sandwich on Friday. Silly me. If you believed that, no wonder you believe whatever the Watchtower tells you. lol)
Anyway, I'm done for the month, so you'll have to satisfy yourself with arguing with that spazmatic over in your "April Fools" thread for the time being. (I wonder if celebrating April Fools is a part of Babylon? ???)
Boy UR really reaching.WTH does The Watchtower,Sex cases,Catholics and ham sandwiches have to do with you going on a spaceship?
Maybe in reality you owe it to yourself to do so to get away from the FC forum that signifies the LOST image that you are.
See ya in a little while.You walking away from forum is like you walking away from a $100 bill you just saw on the ground with no one around.
230 PM last sign out.EST.
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I know that U know how i feel RE holidays,superstitions etc.
So i am guilty of trying to be clever or spicing up the forum like u speaking of the boring action figures or Star Trek etc.<Me RE 4/1 >And u might be right it having an origin with some Babylonish stuperstition.
Quit trying to get a leg up on me.You are banned now by us and LOSE when u arrive.
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Have the following trolls finally been banned Berthabutt,Drutts0643,Imaginarygirl,Countrygirl12,Maxpohits,Tuffysdaughter,Oldbuddy,Ustillgetpaid,Jedijohnnie and the worst troll of the bunch Donnamarg323, what a great idea fusioncash ! Now try getting 5 or 10 good offers so members can continue to earn.
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[/qAzz-guy, Please continue to entertain me!!! : bootyshake: :turkey: :turkey: :turkey: :in-love: I even gave you a thanks today, so now you got a whole THREE!
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
Is this the same user that seems to delight in posting intentionally provocative/argumentative things?
NOOOOOO....its Countrygirl.
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
Is this the same user that seems to delight in posting intentionally provocative/argumentative things?
NOOOOOO....its Countrygirl.
It soitinally is Ollie!!!!LOL!
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Oh, I love Laurel and Hardy! :turkey: :thumbsup:
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Oh, I love Laurel and Hardy! :turkey: :thumbsup:
TY Bertha.I love it when others get it.
Got a few here im sure that cringed on the spelling.
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I know that U know how i feel RE holidays,superstitions etc.
So i am guilty of trying to be clever or spicing up the forum like u speaking of the boring action figures or Star Trek etc.<Me RE 4/1 >And u might be right it having an origin with some Babylonish stuperstition.
Quit trying to get a leg up on me.You are banned now by us and LOSE when u arrive.
Donna also watch when JJ comes back how he will bash the JWs totally unrelated to anything else being discussed.
EX.If we tell him we dont need the $3 in the forum,you do.
His answer is,why do the JWs have to cover up sexual predators?
LOL!!
Or he will say,Jesus incarnate will make sure i get my 30 posts this month.
LOL!
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
So obvious an apology being obsessed with Hitch.
All JJ created here was a launching pad for his humiliation.
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Judas was an apostle of Jesus.Tsk tsk.
All have sinned and fall short.
There are 10 million JWs.I already told u i dont keep tabs on them all and their sexual lives.
Oh so i take it your BAC society dont have sin?
Remove the wicked from among you.I know Gods organization does the best job of that then any other.
Your hate of God displayed here comes over loud and clear.Heed the warning.
In response to JJs lame excuse of JWs and his ban from us.....NOT FC.
He tried for almost a yr to ban hitch.He lost.Hes mad at FC for not supporting his nonsense and banned by us of now almost 2 weeks.
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I'm pretty sure that's him, I didn't take long to start ignoring his remarks..
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Someone please take out the TRASH!!! js... His stuff should be removed. Lol
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I've been ignoring most of the she male wind bags for weeks and all of their stuff should be removed!
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I'm pretty sure that's him, I didn't take long to start ignoring his remarks..
How dumb is this post?This idiot just joined and chiming into something im sure that they know anything about.
And the other idiot that started this topic keeps it alive.LOL!
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Why ban hitch, jedi?, you 2 are hilarious together! Maybe, y'all could team up as a stand-up duo.
We banned him in some ways Bertha.Hes hardly on,plus FC banned him from his own doings.Lemme explain.From the zillion of reports he sent in to FC to ban us cos they ignored his zillion requests,he thinks he is punishing them by not supporting them like he used to.
I know many complaints RE FC have come in,but i still see how many would miss it if it ever went down.So the poor soul pouts and tries to get even with them by not showing up and using the site.U can tell by less $$$ showing up in his flag and by his own admittance his desire is gone cos the poor soul didnt get his way.
We even offered to send him a few bucks....LOL!
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Still talking to yourself hitch? lol So long as you can't answer any of my refutations you might just as well.
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Have the following trolls finally been banned Berthabutt,Drutts0643,Imaginarygirl,Countrygirl12,Maxpohits,Tuffysdaughter,Oldbuddy,Ustillgetpaid,Jedijohnnie and the worst troll of the bunch Donnamarg323, what a great idea fusioncash ! Now try getting 5 or 10 good offers so members can continue to earn.
If you're still here, they'll take anybody!
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I know that U know how i feel RE holidays,superstitions etc.
So i am guilty of trying to be clever or spicing up the forum like u speaking of the boring action figures or Star Trek etc.<Me RE 4/1 >And u might be right it having an origin with some Babylonish stuperstition.
Quit trying to get a leg up on me.You are banned now by us and LOSE when u arrive.
Can somebody get me an interpreter? I don't speak imbecile.
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BTW, there's no pleasing hitch. Get ready for him to chronicle all the times I log into the forum for the next week, and as soon as I leave for a few weeks after, cry how I don't show up! lol
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BTW, there's no pleasing hitch. Get ready for him to chronicle all the times I log into the forum for the next week, and as soon as I leave for a few weeks after, cry how I don't show up! lol
At the rate UR going ull be able to cashout in 4 months.LOL!
Taking bottles back might be quicker.LOL!
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BTW, there's no pleasing hitch. Get ready for him to chronicle all the times I log into the forum for the next week, and as soon as I leave for a few weeks after, cry how I don't show up! lol
At the rate UR going ull be able to cashout in 4 months.LOL!
Taking bottles back might be quicker.LOL!
Says the guy with 3 accounts who doesn't use the site at all. lol
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Still talking to yourself hitch? lol So long as you can't answer any of my refutations you might just as well.
Im sure you arent a cook or a bartender.These jobs require you are able to put things together and do it well.
Your bible understanding would be the same as if you were a bartender or cook you would poison others.
Im not going to rattle on with the specifics with you.You know what they are.It still is quite puzzling to us how you can have so many false doctrines NOT even in bible and still say you support it...LOL!!
Truly shows your heart condition with God.
You tell me to repent?LOL!
Im quite successful with my job and my bible training i give much credit to why i am.
I have to admit that id be curious to see look on your face when world governments destroy Babylon The Great <world empire of false religeon>
A prelude to whats going on in Russia last few yrs might open up your eyes to see fullfillment of Prophecys from book of Daniel going on there.
I have no time to post furthur.Go look it up on JW.org.
Even the UN is letting Russia get away with ther mistreatment of JWs.God allowed Egypt to mistreat his chosen.We know end result.
Oh and in answer to your original question,there are many here listening to us,or are you still quite that blind even on THIS too?LOL!
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Still talking to yourself hitch? lol So long as you can't answer any of my refutations you might just as well.
Im sure you arent a cook or a bartender.These jobs require you are able to put things together and do it well.
Your bible understanding would be the same as if you were a bartender or cook you would poison others.
Im not going to rattle on with the specifics with you.You know what they are.It still is quite puzzling to us how you can have so many false doctrines NOT even in bible and still say you support it...LOL!!
Truly shows your heart condition with God.
You tell me to repent?LOL!
Im quite successful with my job and my bible training i give much credit to why i am.
I have to admit that id be curious to see look on your face when world governments destroy Babylon The Great <world empire of false religeon>
A prelude to whats going on in Russia last few yrs might open up your eyes to see fullfillment of Prophecys from book of Daniel going on there.
I have no time to post furthur.Go look it up on JW.org.
Even the UN is letting Russia get away with ther mistreatment of JWs.God allowed Egypt to mistreat his chosen.We know end result.
Oh and in answer to your original question,there are many here listening to us,or are you still quite that blind even on THIS too?LOL!
Blah blah blah.
The bottom line is you wouldn't know proper biblical doctrine if it bit you on the hand.
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Still talking to yourself hitch? lol So long as you can't answer any of my refutations you might just as well.
Im sure you arent a cook or a bartender.These jobs require you are able to put things together and do it well.
Your bible understanding would be the same as if you were a bartender or cook you would poison others.
Im not going to rattle on with the specifics with you.You know what they are.It still is quite puzzling to us how you can have so many false doctrines NOT even in bible and still say you support it...LOL!!
Truly shows your heart condition with God.
You tell me to repent?LOL!
Im quite successful with my job and my bible training i give much credit to why i am.
I have to admit that id be curious to see look on your face when world governments destroy Babylon The Great <world empire of false religeon>
A prelude to whats going on in Russia last few yrs might open up your eyes to see fullfillment of Prophecys from book of Daniel going on there.
I have no time to post furthur.Go look it up on JW.org.
Even the UN is letting Russia get away with ther mistreatment of JWs.God allowed Egypt to mistreat his chosen.We know end result.
Oh and in answer to your original question,there are many here listening to us,or are you still quite that blind even on THIS too?LOL!
Blah blah blah.
The bottom line is you wouldn't know proper biblical doctrine if it bit you on the hand.
As u know i have no use for politics.Id rather discuss that with you then the bible.
At least in politics we both would be wrong.
Now dont forget your comeback to me and tell us all for the zillionith time how wrong The Watchtower is.
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Still talking to yourself hitch? lol So long as you can't answer any of my refutations you might just as well.
Im sure you arent a cook or a bartender.These jobs require you are able to put things together and do it well.
Your bible understanding would be the same as if you were a bartender or cook you would poison others.
Im not going to rattle on with the specifics with you.You know what they are.It still is quite puzzling to us how you can have so many false doctrines NOT even in bible and still say you support it...LOL!!
Truly shows your heart condition with God.
You tell me to repent?LOL!
Im quite successful with my job and my bible training i give much credit to why i am.
I have to admit that id be curious to see look on your face when world governments destroy Babylon The Great <world empire of false religeon>
A prelude to whats going on in Russia last few yrs might open up your eyes to see fullfillment of Prophecys from book of Daniel going on there.
I have no time to post furthur.Go look it up on JW.org.
Even the UN is letting Russia get away with ther mistreatment of JWs.God allowed Egypt to mistreat his chosen.We know end result.
Oh and in answer to your original question,there are many here listening to us,or are you still quite that blind even on THIS too?LOL!
Blah blah blah.
The bottom line is you wouldn't know proper biblical doctrine if it bit you on the hand.
Right,it has to bite you in the heart.Now go bandage your hand.
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It doesn't "bite" you anywhere. The point is you have to use your brain. Try thinking for yourself instead of cut/pasting watchtower tracts sometime.
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It doesn't "bite" you anywhere. The point is you have to use your brain. Try thinking for yourself instead of cut/pasting watchtower tracts sometime.
Proverbs 13:20
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
20 The one walking with the wise will become wise,+
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Well it's still the erroneous Watchtower New World Translation, but at least it wasn't a tract!
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Well it's still the erroneous Watchtower New World Translation, but at least it wasn't a tract!
Its close who is more of a joke,U or CG.
You have a problem even with KJV too.83:18...Psalms
This last post shows just how desperate UR.
U dont want us to poison FC forum?LOL!!We told U long ago to buy some comfy shoes.Worldwide preaching can be a long walk to stop God.
Most important why God chose Jesus and NOT an angel to die.He couldnt choose a sinful man.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/draw-close/justice/god-gave-jesus-ransom-sacrifice/
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Well it's still the erroneous Watchtower New World Translation, but at least it wasn't a tract!
The Christian Greek Scriptures themselves report that Jesus often referred to God’s name and made it known to others. (John 17:6, 11, 12, 26) Jesus plainly stated: “I have come in the name of my Father.” He also stressed that his works were done in his “Father’s name.”—John 5:43; 10:25.
Erroneous?LOL!!
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Well it's still the erroneous Watchtower New World Translation, but at least it wasn't a tract!
The Christian Greek Scriptures themselves report that Jesus often referred to God’s name and made it known to others. (John 17:6, 11, 12, 26) Jesus plainly stated: “I have come in the name of my Father.” He also stressed that his works were done in his “Father’s name.”—John 5:43; 10:25.
Erroneous?LOL!!
Do you deny the Watchtower inserted the word "other" several dozens of times in order to divest Jesus Christ of His Godhood?
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Well it's still the erroneous Watchtower New World Translation, but at least it wasn't a tract!
Its close who is more of a joke,U or CG.
You have a problem even with KJV too.83:18...Psalms
This last post shows just how desperate UR.
U dont want us to poison FC forum?LOL!!We told U long ago to buy some comfy shoes.Worldwide preaching can be a long walk to stop God.
Most important why God chose Jesus and NOT an angel to die.He couldnt choose a sinful man.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/draw-close/justice/god-gave-jesus-ransom-sacrifice/
There's the tract! Knew you couldn't pass up an opportunity.
But there's a reason why God chose Jesus for the atonement. And you said so yourself "he couldn't choose a sinful man" nor could he choose an angel either. Only GOD INCARNATE could be pure enough a sacrifice. Jesus was the sinless lamb of God- being equal with the Father & Holy Ghost.
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I guess the main question I continue to have for the JWs is- What makes Jesus unique? That He's the Son of God? What difference does that make, when you regard Him as little more than an angel?
If Christ isn't God in the incarnation- if He only exists now as a "thought" in the mind of Jehovah- what has He won on our behalf? How has He defeated death without the physical Resurrection?
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/
Now get your 2 posts and we will see you next month.
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/
Now get your 2 posts and we will see you next month.
I know you'll never read someone else's bible tract, so I'll paste it out for you. This is the explanation for Jesus being called the "First Born of Creation":
The Greek word prototokos, which is translated as firstborn, can refer to different things. It could refer either to something or someone that is first in order of time, such as a firstborn child, or it could refer to someone who is preeminent in rank. Or it could refer to someone who was both firstborn and preeminent in rank. It all depends upon the context.
David, The Youngest Son, Was Called The Firstborn
The psalmist gives a description of David as being the firstborn. The Lord said of him.
I will also appoint him my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth (Psalm 89:27).
In this example the term firstborn obviously speaks of preeminence in rank. David was preeminent among the kings of Israel. However he was not the oldest, or firstborn, in his family. David was in fact the youngest. Therefore in this context, the idea of firstborn among the kings has the idea of preeminence and does not have the idea of time.
So you see, "First Born" does not mean Jesus was created in it's proper context. David, being the youngest was also called First Born in rank. So again, you've failed to demote Christ to a spirit creature. I'll continue to hope you'll actually take the lesson to heart, but won't be shocked when you don't...
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/
Now get your 2 posts and we will see you next month.
I know you'll never read someone else's bible tract, so I'll paste it out for you. This is the explanation for Jesus being called the "First Born of Creation":
The Greek word prototokos, which is translated as firstborn, can refer to different things. It could refer either to something or someone that is first in order of time, such as a firstborn child, or it could refer to someone who is preeminent in rank. Or it could refer to someone who was both firstborn and preeminent in rank. It all depends upon the context.
David, The Youngest Son, Was Called The Firstborn
The psalmist gives a description of David as being the firstborn. The Lord said of him.
I will also appoint him my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth (Psalm 89:27).
In this example the term firstborn obviously speaks of preeminence in rank. David was preeminent among the kings of Israel. However he was not the oldest, or firstborn, in his family. David was in fact the youngest. Therefore in this context, the idea of firstborn among the kings has the idea of preeminence and does not have the idea of time.
So you see, "First Born" does not mean Jesus was created in it's proper context. David, being the youngest was also called First Born in rank. So again, you've failed to demote Christ to a spirit creature. I'll continue to hope you'll actually take the lesson to heart, but won't be shocked when you don't...
You could make a lot more $$$ selling that stuff you are smoking then being on FC!!LOL!
I would be better off trying to learn Chinese then review or learn your nonsense.Even if i was Wong!!!Hahahaha!!
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Since Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is a created person, he cannot be Almighty God. The Scriptures repeatedly portray him as in a position subordinate to God. For example, concerning the resurrected Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul wrote: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Cor. 11:3, CB) When giving the inspired “Revelation” to the apostle John, Jesus said concerning himself: “He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” (Rev. 3:12, CB) Did you note that four times in this verse alone Jesus refers to his Father, Jehovah, as “my God”?—Compare Philippians 2:5, 6, CB.
In no way is this meant to deny the exalted position that Jesus occupies next to God. Before ascending to heaven, Jesus said to his disciples: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matt. 28:18, CB) It was appropriate for God to ‘give’ to his Son such authority, since the Son was the firstborn of all creatures. Right in line with primogenitureship, the apostle Paul could write concerning Jesus: “[God] raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church.”—Eph. 1:20-23, CB.
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/who-is-jesus-christ/
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Prov 8:22
22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,+
The earliest of his achievements of long ago.+
23 From ancient times* I was installed,+
From the start, from times earlier than the earth.+
24 When there were no deep waters,+ I was brought forth,*
When there were no springs overflowing with water.
25 Before the mountains were set in place,
Before the hills, I was brought forth,
26 When he had not yet made the earth and its fields
Or the first clods of earth’s soil.
27 When he prepared the heavens,+ I was there;
When he marked out the horizon* on the surface of the waters,+
28 When he established* the clouds above,
When he founded the fountains of the deep,
29 When he set a decree for the sea
That its waters should not pass beyond his order,+
When he established* the foundations of the earth,
30 Then I was beside him as a master worker.+
I was the one he was especially fond of+ day by day;
I rejoiced before him all the time;+
31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth,
And I was especially fond of the sons of men.*
32 And now, my sons, listen to me;
Yes, happy are those who keep my ways.
33 Listen to discipline+ and become wise,
And never neglect it.
34 Happy is the man who listens to me
By coming early to* my doors day by day,
By waiting next to my doorposts;
35 For the one finding me will find life,+
And he receives approval from Jehovah.
36 But the one who ignores me harms himself,*
And those who hate me love death.”+
English Share Preferences
Copyright © 2020 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pen
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I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.
Whenever i need a chuckle,i always refer myself to this post.
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Prov 8:22
22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,+
The earliest of his achievements of long ago.+
23 From ancient times* I was installed,+
From the start, from times earlier than the earth.+
24 When there were no deep waters,+ I was brought forth,*
When there were no springs overflowing with water.
25 Before the mountains were set in place,
Before the hills, I was brought forth,
26 When he had not yet made the earth and its fields
Or the first clods of earth’s soil.
27 When he prepared the heavens,+ I was there;
When he marked out the horizon* on the surface of the waters,+
28 When he established* the clouds above,
When he founded the fountains of the deep,
29 When he set a decree for the sea
That its waters should not pass beyond his order,+
When he established* the foundations of the earth,
30 Then I was beside him as a master worker.+
I was the one he was especially fond of+ day by day;
I rejoiced before him all the time;+
31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth,
And I was especially fond of the sons of men.*
32 And now, my sons, listen to me;
Yes, happy are those who keep my ways.
33 Listen to discipline+ and become wise,
And never neglect it.
34 Happy is the man who listens to me
By coming early to* my doors day by day,
By waiting next to my doorposts;
35 For the one finding me will find life,+
And he receives approval from Jehovah.
36 But the one who ignores me harms himself,*
And those who hate me love death.”+
English Share Preferences
Copyright © 2020 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pen
Are you seriously going to quote Proverbs 8:22 as a proof text? Seriously, this is the best you got?
"For the LORD gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding;" Proverbs 2:6
The Wisdom which Yahweh gives is the knowledge and understanding that comes from his mouth. The reference is essentially saying that Yahweh produced Wisdom out of his own mouth, which shows that Wisdom wasn't created from nothing since it existed with(in) Yahweh. In other words, Yahweh always had Wisdom as an attribute which he then produced or brought forth in order to create and to give to others.
Basically, what this implies is that Proverbs is using figurative language to describe how Yahweh birthed his own eternal attribute of Wisdom from Himself in creating everything. Thus, even if the text were referring to Christ this would only prove that the Creedal statements were correct in stating that Jesus was eternally begotten before all creation, begotten not made.
Yet, as it stands, this text isn't referring to Christ nor is it saying that Wisdom was created from nothing. It is simply a poetic description of how Yahweh used his own eternal attribute of Wisdom to create all things.
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/
Now get your 2 posts and we will see you next month.
I know you'll never read someone else's bible tract, so I'll paste it out for you. This is the explanation for Jesus being called the "First Born of Creation":
The Greek word prototokos, which is translated as firstborn, can refer to different things. It could refer either to something or someone that is first in order of time, such as a firstborn child, or it could refer to someone who is preeminent in rank. Or it could refer to someone who was both firstborn and preeminent in rank. It all depends upon the context.
David, The Youngest Son, Was Called The Firstborn
The psalmist gives a description of David as being the firstborn. The Lord said of him.
I will also appoint him my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth (Psalm 89:27).
In this example the term firstborn obviously speaks of preeminence in rank. David was preeminent among the kings of Israel. However he was not the oldest, or firstborn, in his family. David was in fact the youngest. Therefore in this context, the idea of firstborn among the kings has the idea of preeminence and does not have the idea of time.
So you see, "First Born" does not mean Jesus was created in it's proper context. David, being the youngest was also called First Born in rank. So again, you've failed to demote Christ to a spirit creature. I'll continue to hope you'll actually take the lesson to heart, but won't be shocked when you don't...
You could make a lot more $$$ selling that stuff you are smoking then being on FC!!LOL!
I would be better off trying to learn Chinese then review or learn your nonsense.Even if i was Wong!!!Hahahaha!!
If you're having trouble get a 3 year old to read it to you.
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Since Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is a created person, he cannot be Almighty God. The Scriptures repeatedly portray him as in a position subordinate to God. For example, concerning the resurrected Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul wrote: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Cor. 11:3, CB) When giving the inspired “Revelation” to the apostle John, Jesus said concerning himself: “He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” (Rev. 3:12, CB) Did you note that four times in this verse alone Jesus refers to his Father, Jehovah, as “my God”?—Compare Philippians 2:5, 6, CB.
In no way is this meant to deny the exalted position that Jesus occupies next to God. Before ascending to heaven, Jesus said to his disciples: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matt. 28:18, CB) It was appropriate for God to ‘give’ to his Son such authority, since the Son was the firstborn of all creatures. Right in line with primogenitureship, the apostle Paul could write concerning Jesus: “[God] raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church.”—Eph. 1:20-23, CB.
Again, you cannot conceive of the fact that Jesus made Himself subordinate to the Father (the titles Father & Son should define those roles rather clearly to you) in the Incarnation
But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Heb 2:9
Christ's Role in the Godhead does not necessitate His divesting Himself of any Divine attributes. Try, try again.
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Since Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is a created person, he cannot be Almighty God. The Scriptures repeatedly portray him as in a position subordinate to God. For example, concerning the resurrected Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul wrote: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Cor. 11:3, CB) When giving the inspired “Revelation” to the apostle John, Jesus said concerning himself: “He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” (Rev. 3:12, CB) Did you note that four times in this verse alone Jesus refers to his Father, Jehovah, as “my God”?—Compare Philippians 2:5, 6, CB.
In no way is this meant to deny the exalted position that Jesus occupies next to God. Before ascending to heaven, Jesus said to his disciples: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matt. 28:18, CB) It was appropriate for God to ‘give’ to his Son such authority, since the Son was the firstborn of all creatures. Right in line with primogenitureship, the apostle Paul could write concerning Jesus: “[God] raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church.”—Eph. 1:20-23, CB.
Again, you cannot conceive of the fact that Jesus made Himself subordinate to the Father (the titles Father & Son should define those roles rather clearly to you) in the Incarnation
But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Heb 2:9
Christ's Role in the Godhead does not necessitate His divesting Himself of any Divine attributes. Try, try again.
You might do better as a salesman in a used car lot.
Your posts are about as convincing as Trump MAGA!!LOL!
BTW i wanna say TY to both U and CG for helping me entertain the FC members.
Give U a little attn and u signed on more today then the last 3 months combined.LOL!
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Since Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is a created person, he cannot be Almighty God. The Scriptures repeatedly portray him as in a position subordinate to God. For example, concerning the resurrected Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul wrote: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Cor. 11:3, CB) When giving the inspired “Revelation” to the apostle John, Jesus said concerning himself: “He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” (Rev. 3:12, CB) Did you note that four times in this verse alone Jesus refers to his Father, Jehovah, as “my God”?—Compare Philippians 2:5, 6, CB.
In no way is this meant to deny the exalted position that Jesus occupies next to God. Before ascending to heaven, Jesus said to his disciples: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matt. 28:18, CB) It was appropriate for God to ‘give’ to his Son such authority, since the Son was the firstborn of all creatures. Right in line with primogenitureship, the apostle Paul could write concerning Jesus: “[God] raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church.”—Eph. 1:20-23, CB.
Again, you cannot conceive of the fact that Jesus made Himself subordinate to the Father (the titles Father & Son should define those roles rather clearly to you) in the Incarnation
But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Heb 2:9
Christ's Role in the Godhead does not necessitate His divesting Himself of any Divine attributes. Try, try again.
It is YOU and Babylon The Great that wanna depict Jesus as a poor babe in a cowstall on a pagan day never mentioned in bible.
jehovahs organization KNOW God has installed him as King of Kings and Lord of Lords in Jehovahs Kingdom.
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I'm pretty sure that's him, I didn't take long to start ignoring his remarks..
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I'm pretty sure that's him, I didn't take long to start ignoring his remarks..
RU Jedi in disguise?
LOL!!!!!!
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All I can say to this is, "Oh my goodness, what a mess!" :o
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All I can say to this is, "Oh my goodness, what a mess!" :o
Yeh i guess it was.
FYI we have supported Hitch over the past yr.FC screwed up.They banned him for supporting the bible.Jedi took it upon himself to create this topic for whatever reasons.He hasnt been around in a month and a half.Looks like he was banned.LOL!
Anyway we have weathered the storm and have tried to contribute to the forum and support what Hitch was doing.
Enjoy FC and nice to meet you.
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Hi Donnamarg!
Nice to meet you, too. :)
Thank for explaining that to me. I haven’t been on here long and didn’t know the entire history.
I hope to enjoy Fusioncash more once my profile information finally gets saved to the site. Otherwise, I am just here to hang out.... :glasses-nerdy:
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You know about the 30 posts to receive $3 per month?
Its a nice thing to add extra cash in your acct if U enjoy chatting in forum.
Hope you get your acct fixed up.Just remember to verify your E-mail address and figure out what browser works best for you.I have used Google Chrome and Internet Explorer and had no problems.
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Hi, Donnamarg!
I really appreciate your reminder about the forum. I will have to try it out.
I am hopeful about my account information getting ironed out. I enjoy being here.
My email and phone number have already been verified.
Keeping my fingers crossed with the address.
Have a great day!! :)
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I wanted to bring this topic back up to the top so the newbies and FC members could get an idea again about this idiot.<creator of this topic>
His German farewell a few days ago really was a good laugh.
He used to tell us its a good thing we defeated Hitler otherwise we would be speaking German today.
Then he compares himself to the apostle Paul in the bible who wrote 13 books or letters in the bible.And he says we have a problem with our ego.
JWs are in 240 lands fulfilling Math 24:14 RE the kingdom being preached worldwide and he still trys to BUCK that!!!They are also a worldwide brotherhood,<whites blacks,yellow,orientals>that have love among themselves.>
Sick individual that he is.