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Title: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on January 11, 2020, 11:04:18 pm
This is a new rule that the country is trying to pass. Do you agree? Yes, No?
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: pkrahmer on January 12, 2020, 02:58:40 am
no that doesn't even make sense. in most if not all states you are a legal adult at 18. :rainbow: :peace: :wave:
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: berthabutt on January 12, 2020, 03:39:40 am
  what planet is this country on?    ??? :turkey:
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Post by: rob110 on January 12, 2020, 04:46:42 am
A little high, I would go for 15.
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Post by: jenniferhoder on January 12, 2020, 05:13:18 am
Absolutely not! I have two teenagers and that is how I communicate with them. I don't know how something so silly could actually pass.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 12, 2020, 05:30:35 am
This is a new rule that the country is trying to pass. Do you agree? Yes, No?

Where in the world did you come up with this?  This is not true at all.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 12, 2020, 05:33:14 am
A little high, I would go for 15.

It really is none of no one else's business what you do with your child.  If I want my 7 year old to have access to a phone that is MY business.  This is bogus anyway.  Like someone else said the majority of the states you are an adult at 18.  Lots of teens work or even drive to school.  Cell phones are a part of the world we live in.

This is no different than the idiots trying to ban sodas. If you don't want a phone don't have one.  Don't want your kid to have one - then don't.  Don't want to eat or drink something then don't.  But stop trying to control what every one else does.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: ccandpam on January 12, 2020, 08:23:11 am
No, I do not agree. I have Kids and I make sure that they have a Phone so that I know they are Safe at all times.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: stevensm4 on January 12, 2020, 09:15:08 am
No, I don't agree as that seems tad high for something like a cellphone. I figure as soon as the kid(s) enter high school, they ought to get one.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on January 12, 2020, 09:18:55 am
I just read about this. There's more to the story. A senator in Vermont proposed the bill to ban cell phones for people under 21, knowing that it won't pass, and he even said he wouldn't vote for it. It's illegal for someone under 21 to buy a gun in VT. So, it was to prove a point that cell phones are just as dangerous, because of texting and driving, bullying, mass shootings and suicide on social media, etc.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: dreamyxo on January 12, 2020, 09:20:40 am
I saw this a few days ago it was one specific state forgot which one but they were saying that kids use cell phones to bully other kids and also distracted driving.  Well if you want to bully someone you can still use a computer so they going to ban computers, tablets and laptops for under 21 too?
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: nannycoe1 on January 12, 2020, 11:34:31 am
I do not agree, a cell phone is a good way to keep up with your child and for them to learn
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 12, 2020, 12:05:14 pm
I just read about this. There's more to the story. A senator in Vermont proposed the bill to ban cell phones for people under 21, knowing that it won't pass, and he even said he wouldn't vote for it. It's illegal for someone under 21 to buy a gun in VT. So, it was to prove a point that cell phones are just as dangerous, because of texting and driving, bullying, mass shootings and suicide on social media, etc.

Guns are not dangerous.  It is all about the person who has the gun.  And a cell phone is nothing close to the same as a gun.  Eating too many cheeseburgers causes people to be fat and high cholesterol.  What are you gonna do?  Lock people in a box and only feed them fresh veggies and water to drink?  Force them to exercise 2 hours a day?

I saw this a few days ago it was one specific state forgot which one but they were saying that kids use cell phones to bully other kids and also distracted driving.  Well if you want to bully someone you can still use a computer so they going to ban computers, tablets and laptops for under 21 too?

I see more adults texting than driving than "kids".  Actually cell phone usage at all by any one of any age is against the law while driving.  It still happens.  People drive drunk or doped up on drugs.  I guess we need to just ban cars.  Everyone can take a taxi if they want to get from point A to point B.

I do not agree, a cell phone is a good way to keep up with your child and for them to learn

Kids do not use cell phones to "learn".  They use it for playing on the internet, playing games, social media, talking to friends.  Either way, it is no one else's business at what age you decide to get your child a cell phone.  As crazy as things in this world are especially at school I do not have any issues with kids as young as first grade having a way to call or text a parent.  As long as the phones are not out during class.

There is good and bad in everything.  I am glad I went to school before everyone had a phone.  I mean it is disgusting that you can't go to the bathroom or change clothes in gym class without having to worry about being videoed or having your picture taken.  But sadly that is not even the biggest thing girls have to worry about.  Some stupid boy decides he feels like a girl and he is allowed to use the girls locker room.  This world is disgusting.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: cathy37 on January 12, 2020, 01:47:06 pm
No I don't.  I think that kids need cell phones especially for emergencies.  I do think that some kids spend too much time on their cellphones, but this should be the parents who control when they can use them and not the government.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: judylucas on January 12, 2020, 02:30:33 pm
Parents should set age limits and also how and when the phones are used
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: heypeg on January 12, 2020, 03:30:53 pm
What country? I haven't heard anything about that.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: gtdoss on January 12, 2020, 03:44:09 pm
I realize that, as someone else on here said, this post is regarding a bill that is specific to Vermont. I can't believe that it would ever pass, though. People have kids in college (like I do) and need to be able to be in contact with them, especially now that most colleges don't even have landlines in the rooms! I think it's probably just a few legislators that probably haven't though it through and are just trying to stop young people from texting while driving. However, like someone else here pointed out, a lot of people over 21 also text, talk and drive at the time!  :peace: :heart:
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: dsosnowski06 on January 12, 2020, 06:13:50 pm
Parents should set age limits and also how and when the phones are used
I could not agree more.  Two of boys were so careless and lost everything.  But one son and my daughter were so responsible that is was easy to make decisions regarding this type of thing
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: gaylasue on January 13, 2020, 04:44:35 am
Absolutely not.  Of course, while driving or walking on the streets but not totally banned.  Many people under 21 have to work for a living and a phone is a necessity now days!
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: pectacon on January 13, 2020, 08:34:30 am
This is totally unrealistic. If you wanted to say only a non-smart phone for kids under X age, just so they can call for emergencies, that's one thing. But smartphones are part of the world now especially for legal adults 18+.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 13, 2020, 09:08:59 am
I realize that, as someone else on here said, this post is regarding a bill that is specific to Vermont. I can't believe that it would ever pass, though. People have kids in college (like I do) and need to be able to be in contact with them, especially now that most colleges don't even have landlines in the rooms! I think it's probably just a few legislators that probably haven't though it through and are just trying to stop young people from texting while driving. However, like someone else here pointed out, a lot of people over 21 also text, talk and drive at the time!  :peace: :heart:

I know a lot of teens (no they are not kids) who are working at 16 and some younger.  Kids who are out driving a car need to be able to get help if there is a problem.  The world we live in is not safe.  I had someone make a smart remark about me always having my phone in my hand.  Which is NOT true.  But even if I do it is none of no one else's business.  Yes, I have my phone with me all the time.  My life.  My choice.  Same with my kids.  If I want them to have a phone then no one has a right to tell me they cannot have one.  It is kind of like the one state, and this may have passed, where they tax sodas.  I know the one state banned the large cups.  Well big deal.  You get free refills so they just refill it 3 times instead of one.  People better wake up and see what is going on in this country.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: jkhanson on January 13, 2020, 09:16:58 am
This is a new rule that the country is trying to pass. Do you agree? Yes, No?
TOPIC:  Topic: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?

I do not agree that the country or a state (Vermont from what I learned reading through this topic) should
ban cellphones for people under 21 years old. 

Texting while driving, no matter what age, is illegal in most states already. 

Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 13, 2020, 09:18:26 am
This is totally unrealistic. If you wanted to say only a non-smart phone for kids under X age, just so they can call for emergencies, that's one thing. But smartphones are part of the world now especially for legal adults 18+.

That is still none of no one's business. Yes smart phones are a part of the world today.  You say for legal adults over 18.  SO I guess all the illegals in the country are going to be banned from having a smart phone? I can not believe any one who proposed something like that would ever get reelected if it it is a joke.  It is just a way of gaining more control over the people.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: ghunter on January 13, 2020, 09:55:58 am
I agree with Judylucas, it is up to the parent but I think a child should  have one in middle school.
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Post by: bretay on January 13, 2020, 10:24:15 am
my 18 yr old granddaughter works..so i feel safer knowing she has a phone with her...she keeps it on do not disturb while driving...i dont agree with this one..and they knew it wouldnt go through anyway...why propose if you know its not gonna pass..
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: tjshorty on January 13, 2020, 10:54:16 am
no that doesn't even make sense. in most if not all states you are a legal adult at 18. :rainbow: :peace: :wave:
No.  with people coming up missing all the time.  It can be a big asset.  Also there are many times that I need to talk to a grandkid or they might need to get ahold of me.  Saves time and worry.  Do I think time should be limited yes
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: Kimdud22 on January 13, 2020, 05:22:36 pm
I don't agree I think somewhere in the teenage years is appropriate in case of emergencies. Maybe they don't need all of the social media attached to it until high school. Guess it depends on parent.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: darkxtsuna on January 22, 2020, 06:31:50 am
I wish they lower it to teens 12-18 Years old, That's just me being a uncle and having to deal with all the tech stuff that my nieces do and not paying attention to anything but the screen in front of them.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 22, 2020, 07:16:47 am
no that doesn't even make sense. in most if not all states you are a legal adult at 18. :rainbow: :peace: :wave:
No.  with people coming up missing all the time.  It can be a big asset.  Also there are many times that I need to talk to a grandkid or they might need to get ahold of me.  Saves time and worry.  Do I think time should be limited yes

But the limit should be set by the parent not the government.  We live in a unsafe world.  So yes anyone who is out and about needs a phone.  I had someone following me to my car at Walmart back in the summer.  He was a local bum who stood at the corner and held a sign.  I made a call and told them HE was following me.  WHO he was.  He heard me and he did not know who I was talking to so he stopped and went the other way.  You never know what people are going to do. I think stuff like this is just to distract you from something else.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 22, 2020, 07:19:33 am
I wish they lower it to teens 12-18 Years old, That's just me being a uncle and having to deal with all the tech stuff that my nieces do and not paying attention to anything but the screen in front of them.

This will never pass.  If my 7 year old spends the night at his friend's house and I want him to have a phone so he can call me if he needs to then that is MY choice.   Yes people may (in other people's opinion) spend too much time on their phone.  A lot of people may think you spend too much time on survey sites.  Do you want that limited? People need to mind their own business and not worry so much about what others are doing.

Yes, I am engrossed (or so it seems) in my phone a lot of times when in public waiting.  Some people do not want to interact with idiots around them. lol
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: plennis on January 22, 2020, 07:31:23 am
no that doesn't even make sense. in most if not all states you are a legal adult at 18. :rainbow: :peace: :wave:

 A lot of families also have very good reason to use, to see when and where kids are after school, if there is an emergency, to keep in contact when they are not with parents.  Change of schedules, when and where to pick up.  You can do all sorts of things to block the kids just horsing around or playing games.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: ancmetro on January 24, 2020, 08:29:23 am

   Kids should be allowed to have their own cell phone. Why?
What about if they need to call 911 to summon some help?
Having a cell phone may save their lives!
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: UGetPaid on January 24, 2020, 09:18:34 am

 A lot of families also have very good reason to use, to see when and where kids are after school, if there is an emergency, to keep in contact when they are not with parents.  Change of schedules, when and where to pick up.  You can do all sorts of things to block the kids just horsing around or playing games.


I can see both sides of the story, but still fall on the side that this proposal is idiotic.


We chose to get our daughter a cell phone for her 12th birthday - primarily for the reasons cited by plennis - in coordinating her school pickups and all of the other activities she is involved in. She has, like many other kids at that age - gotten herself into trouble by putting too much time and effort into using her phone for social interaction. And I will admit right off that we didn't do as good of a job as we should have (or that we thought we did) in setting the parental limits.  It has resulted in her being grounded a few times because of it, and she also has had one school detention for being on her phone while she was not supposed to be... But it still has been well worth the times that we need to stay in touch with her or keep tabs on her through location sharing apps.


There was a 14 year old boy nearby to the area we live who went missing in the end of December. Zero traces of him other than a security camera that appeared to show him on his way to school the day he went missing. Maybe some of you heard about it as it made national news. He had been extremely active online posting dozens of videos on YouTube and many people were very critical of his parents for allowing that - a lot of them speculating that he had been lured or abducted by a predator who befriended him online.


None of that seems to have been the case. They finally found his body a week or two ago, stuck in the chimney of a vacant house across the street from his own. He had tried to get into the locked house via the roof and chimney - got trapped - and ultimately died of suffocation. Turned out he was upset with his parents who decided to not replace his cell phone that he broke or damaged somehow. I'm not sure if this was his way of acting out, or what. I believe he had some issues with autism and had "gone missing/run away" a few times before but just overnight.


It's probably unlikely that he would have been found in time had he had a working cell phone and I am in no way suggesting any fault or blame on the parents, but still a tragic situation that may have been avoided with a cell phone.  ...or they at least may have found him sooner.



Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: pstovall on January 24, 2020, 12:00:44 pm
I don't have children in school any more, but from what I've seen through my grandchildren, schools are relying more and more on modern technology to teach our young people.  I can foresee a cell phone being more of a necessity than a luxury. I am grateful that I had the opportunity to grow up without them.  I loved my childhood and the closest I got to today's modern technology was reading the *bleep* Tracy comic strip. (He had a two-way wrist radio back in the 40's)!

The fact that this popular comic strip hero's name got bleeped just illustrates my point. It was a simpler, more innocent time back in the 40's!
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: sdenimandlace1 on January 27, 2020, 03:49:55 am
If kid use the phone just for what they need to do, should not be a problem.
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Post by: elvisdo on January 27, 2020, 05:10:46 am
Let kids have only a working cell phone and not a smart phone. Then they will cry foul.
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Post by: kvanwert on January 28, 2020, 07:11:42 am
I don't think that is accurate at all but that is also never going to pass. It doesn't even make sense.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on January 29, 2020, 05:09:59 am
I don't think that is accurate at all but that is also never going to pass. It doesn't even make sense.

It is accurate.  If you google you can find it. No it won't pass.  And it could never be enforced if it was.  I would not say it would "never" pass.  A lot of idiots vote.  I have seen a lot of things happen that I NEVER every would have thought could or would.  People are stupid.  People are throwing our freedoms away every day.  Too many also want to control what others do and are too stupid to see it will lead to them being controlled as well.  IF something like this were to pass then it is just a step away from other forms of control.  Look at some of the other countries where the government controls what websites you can look at.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: rghvac69 on January 29, 2020, 06:19:45 am
The people of Vermont need to vote this blank-hole out of office.
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Post by: Sawman214 on January 29, 2020, 08:50:36 am
I would say no unles they just got one that could dial 2 to 3 numbers
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: aflyingmonkey on January 29, 2020, 10:34:37 am
If they want to pass these 21 year old restrictions, then they need to legally change the 18 year old being an adult.... which I do agree on.  But if 18 year olds are required to sign up for selective service, ie The Draft, & if 18 year olds can be charged as adults in crimes, vote, & go into the volunteer military service, then they surely should be allowed to use a cellphone.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: nickylanena on January 29, 2020, 09:32:19 pm
I just read about this. There's more to the story. A senator in Vermont proposed the bill to ban cell phones for people under 21, knowing that it won't pass, and he even said he wouldn't vote for it. It's illegal for someone under 21 to buy a gun in VT. So, it was to prove a point that cell phones are just as dangerous, because of texting and driving, bullying, mass shootings and suicide on social media, etc.

Ohhh ok! I was definitely thinking this seems way too outrageous.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: fjaz1 on January 29, 2020, 10:53:40 pm
I watch a lot of news and current events and haven't heard anything about this, sounds like FAKE NEWS and good luck trying to do that. ::) ::) ::) 8)
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: nmbrown863 on January 30, 2020, 06:33:47 am
I do not agree. Even though cell phones can cause trouble I still want a way to get it contact with my child. Safety reasons.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: minioncookies on January 30, 2020, 11:14:02 pm
For one its not gambling . No need to ban it from a 18 year old. That is down right dumb. IF your going to make it 21 before they can have a phone might as well put a ban on kids from ever being on the net til their 21. More fair that way if you ask me but seriously still dumb. I do believe parents should be made to monitor there kids time on phones.  Have the ability to set guidelines to keep there kids safe even if the parent doesnt have the phone on them at the time. Make that remotely
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: tantricia44 on January 31, 2020, 12:40:13 am
I don't think they should set a legal age of 21 years for kids to use cell phones. I agree that kids with cell phones tend to block out actual daily activities. I watch my nieces stick their faces in front of one while having a family dinning out event. i think the age restrictions should be brought down to 16yrs with many restrictions on the phone's apps, device functions.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: braggin on February 08, 2020, 05:25:58 am
Who in the country is trying to pass a law like that? Kids are basically adults when they are 18. How could you ban them from using a phone for another three years? Lots of parents like their kids to have phones so they can call them and find out where they are whenever they want to. Nobody would vote for a law like this.
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Post by: ktheodos on February 08, 2020, 07:52:09 am
A little extreme to say the least....though it is crazy how young some kids receive cell phones these days!
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on February 08, 2020, 10:18:11 am
I don't think they should set a legal age of 21 years for kids to use cell phones. I agree that kids with cell phones tend to block out actual daily activities. I watch my nieces stick their faces in front of one while having a family dinning out event. i think the age restrictions should be brought down to 16yrs with many restrictions on the phone's apps, device functions.

So where does it stop?  Is it okay to ban sodas for kids? Is it okay to ban how many hours a day kids can watch tv?  If you are not the parent it is nothing to you.  There are tons of apps you can get for your phone just like software for your computer.  Just because you see a person on their phone doesn't mean they are wasting time on social media. 

Pretty sure this was all a joke any way.  It was something to distract from something else.  He knew it would never pass.  It was put out there to further divide and get people to fight and argue about something stupid while something more important was shoved through without any one noticing.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on February 08, 2020, 10:19:16 am
Who in the country is trying to pass a law like that? Kids are basically adults when they are 18. How could you ban them from using a phone for another three years? Lots of parents like their kids to have phones so they can call them and find out where they are whenever they want to. Nobody would vote for a law like this.

You would be surprised who all would vote for something like this.  I don't remember who it was but if you google you can find it.  I saw it some where other than on here.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: mardukblood2009 on February 08, 2020, 09:26:59 pm
That doesn't even make any sense at all. Does that mean someone is going to be carding everyone who looks under 21 with a cell phone. lol :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :bootyshake:
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: Harmabe on February 29, 2020, 06:53:08 pm
More bullshit
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Post by: hicham1976 on February 29, 2020, 09:36:31 pm
The smartphone Iam agree with that  :) :)
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: mrisha on March 05, 2020, 05:39:56 pm
Yes, I agree kids that are 6 and 7 years old never needs a cellphone.  But these days I see kids that are about 8-10 with a cellphone.  But in today's environment, this is the way of keeping apprise of where their children are.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: dwiley11 on March 05, 2020, 06:40:50 pm
maybe just to call home or 911
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: countrygirl12 on March 06, 2020, 07:29:33 am
Yes, I agree kids that are 6 and 7 years old never needs a cellphone.  But these days I see kids that are about 8-10 with a cellphone.  But in today's environment, this is the way of keeping apprise of where their children are.

So why draw the line there.  7 does not need a phone but 8 well that is okay? No, if I want my child to have a life line to be able to contact me if they need to then that is MY business.  I see kids very young in Walmart in the buggy playing on a phone while the mom shops.  I see nothing wrong with that.   I do think if you give your kid a smart phone you need to monitor what they are doing.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: PGS28 on March 06, 2020, 10:55:40 am
I've never heard of this but I don't agree with the age when one can work at 16 and then it becomes necessary.
Title: Re: No cellphones for kids under 21 years old?
Post by: PGS28 on March 06, 2020, 10:56:08 am
15 sounds like a good age to me.

A little high, I would go for 15.