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Title: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: dreamyxo on March 21, 2020, 08:52:22 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-intelligence-reports-from-january-and-february-warned-about-a-likely-pandemic/2020/03/20/299d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.

The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans. Lawmakers, too, did not grapple with the virus in earnest until this month, as officials scrambled to keep citizens in their homes and hospitals braced for a surge in patients suffering from covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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Intelligence agencies “have been warning on this since January,” said a U.S. official who had access to intelligence reporting that was disseminated to members of Congress and their staffs as well as to officials in the Trump administration, and who, along with others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive information.
Coronavirus cases rose as Trump said they were under control
At least seven times over the past two months, President Trump said the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. were falling or contained even as they rose.


“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” this official said. “The system was blinking red.”



Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: plennis on March 21, 2020, 01:29:41 pm
I have been telling people this since Christmas.  Health organizations were putting out reports regarding this and it was played down by Trump.  Some of the statements he continues to make are really unbelievable.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: hawkeye3210 on March 21, 2020, 02:30:47 pm
When Trump banned travel from foreigners who had recently been to China in January he was labeled as a racist. I think there is plenty of blame to go around.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on March 21, 2020, 04:53:06 pm
Trump should have been honest with us about the seriousness of this virus by making it mandatory to stay inside. I heard more people are going to contract this. They're trying to depopulate the united states.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: tjshorty on March 21, 2020, 07:06:24 pm
I also believe that they knew it was coming and lied.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: surveygrabber on March 21, 2020, 07:31:52 pm
The president is going way too far. He is making the travel ban to restrictive. He should at least pass a bill to speed up the process of finding a vaccine and a cure for Covid-19.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: hawkeye3210 on March 21, 2020, 08:09:58 pm
The president is going way too far. He is making the travel ban to restrictive. He should at least pass a bill to speed up the process of finding a vaccine and a cure for Covid-19.

He really can't speed up a vaccine because it is still going to be over a year to develop and test. It's also not like he needs to sign a bill for that. The medical professionals are going as fast as they can.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: singletonb on March 21, 2020, 09:02:26 pm
This virus is something that is still hard to figure out.  I just pray that folks will take precaution and they find a solution soon.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: UGetPaid on March 22, 2020, 02:44:23 am
PLEASE!!!!!  People need to get some SERIOUS mental health treatment for their Trump Derangement Syndrome. Both are a serious problem for our country, but I am almost more afraid of TDS that COVID-19.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: UGetPaid on March 22, 2020, 02:47:20 am
The president is going way too far. He is making the travel ban to restrictive. He should at least pass a bill to speed up the process of finding a vaccine and a cure for Covid-19.


He cannot just do this on his own... How a Bill Gets Passed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0)

Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: alice44 on March 22, 2020, 09:49:14 am
I'm afraid our leaders are still playing it down.  Experiencing this plague, hopefully will make voters think carefully about who they want our next leader to be.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: makeblessed on March 22, 2020, 10:11:37 am
Exactly! just no leadership at the top; that's why individual states are taking matters in there own hands to try and protect the citizens of their states as best they can. 
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: dreamyxo on March 22, 2020, 10:39:04 am
Exactly! just no leadership at the top; that's why individual states are taking matters in there own hands to try and protect the citizens of their states as best they can. 


Toddler in Chief basically has told the governors from day one that you're on your own.  Find you own solutions.
Title: Re: happy
Post by: willzz1 on March 22, 2020, 11:26:13 am
 :D :D hope every one having a go day today luck to you all :) :) :)
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: mardukblood2009 on March 22, 2020, 12:25:35 pm
I am glad everyone knows everything and thinks that what they would have done is right. None of you people are in office so what do any of you know.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on March 22, 2020, 01:01:04 pm
I am glad everyone knows everything and thinks that what they would have done is right. None of you people are in office so what do any of you know.

Ha! Right? Everyone seems to think they know how to run an entire country.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: linderlizzie on March 22, 2020, 01:34:32 pm
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but bashing everything my President does is not helping anyone. There is already WAY too much panic going on.

Have you ever tried being the President, especially one that has a party that fights him every inch of the way. Perhaps with a little help from his friends (the Dems), we could have done better.

What we need to do now is to pull together. Our country may be even stronger when we show we can beat this thing. But we have to be together; not divided. We definitely cannot go back and change anything that has already happened. We need to start from where we are now and finish strong. We have done it before.

United, we stand. :highfive: Divided, we fall.  :bad:
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: gaylasue on March 23, 2020, 06:54:55 am
A liar only knows how to lie no matter what the circumstances.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: sfreeman8 on March 23, 2020, 08:01:27 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-intelligence-reports-from-january-and-february-warned-about-a-likely-pandemic/2020/03/20/299d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

You are SO wrong.  (This will be long but it needs to be put out there to stop the lies.) The time line is very clear how involved Trump was with the development of this virus.  China didn't tell anyone about this virus that started in November or maybe even earlier....until they told W.H.O about the Wuhan virus 12/31/2019. WHO declared a "public-health emergency of international concern on JANUARY 30, 10 days AFTER the first case hit Washington state from a person from WuHan. Trump called the CDC and health experts to implement plans around that time. 

January 17; The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

January 20; Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

January 29: the White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

President Trump banned foreign nationals from entering the US if they had been in China within two weeks prior on January 31. Of course, TDS media called him a racist for doing it. He also declared the virus to be a [ib;oc  health emergency.

February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.

February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.

February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.

February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.

February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.

February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.

February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.

February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.

February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

February 29: The Trump Administration announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea,
barred all travel to Iran, and barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days,

March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.

March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.

March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.

March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.

March 11: President Trump announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days,
Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50 billion, directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity, and met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump declared a nation emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus, public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites, a pause on interest payments on federal student loans.

I guess you know it from here. I don't know why people would even read WaPo sincey the brag about trying to take Trump down and since it's owned by Jeff Bezos, who has TDS, it figures WaPo would have no fear of trashing Trump or lose their $$ or get fired by Bezos.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: sfreeman8 on March 23, 2020, 08:15:39 am
Exactly! just no leadership at the top; that's why individual states are taking matters in there own hands to try and protect the citizens of their states as best they can. 

Toddler in Chief basically has told the governors from day one that you're on your own.  Find you own solutions.

I love it! He NEVER said that!!! He told the states that they need to take steps to help their people. It's called responsibility. The federal government is not the solution to every problem, nor is it the "babysitter.".  Funny how they'll take the initiative on making their state a sanctuary or a mayors will take the initiative to make their city a sanctuary, but they'll sit and wait for the "babysitter" for other problems, especially if it costs money. State governments know what they need. The federal government doesn't and it was up to them to try to get the equipment with the backing of the federal government, not wait for the federal government. Some took the initiative but others didn't. 
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: sfreeman8 on March 23, 2020, 08:20:08 am
The president is going way too far. He is making the travel ban to restrictive. He should at least pass a bill to speed up the process of finding a vaccine and a cure for Covid-19.

Don't need to pass a bill to speed up the process of a vaccine and cure. They're already doing trials for a vaccine and there are 3 different drugs in use for years that may be a cure for COVID19.  As Trump said yesterday on those drugs, "What can it hurt to try them?" At least we'd all know if they'd work or not. In the meantime, the labs have been hard at work to find a cure but it doesn't come easy or quickly. They're (the labs) are quoting it may be a year before they find one.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: pectacon on March 23, 2020, 11:04:48 am
It's easy to be an armchair politician. Maybe every step taken has not been perfect but hindsight is 2020 and I don't see how (in general, not just with covid19) countries are expected to know how to respond while still in the early stages. Do we shut down all travel and business every time there's a new contagious illness somewhere in the world? I don't know how this stuff works but I would imagine that happens regularly.
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: linderlizzie on March 23, 2020, 04:08:15 pm
Kudos to those of you who recognize the good work of our President in this terrifying time. To those of you who continue to bash everything he does, a bucket of shame is poured upon you. :-[ You do not know whereof you speak. Or perhaps you have the aptly named Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Credit should be given where credit is due. Do you think you could handle the contagion yourself by advising the president? Or would you rather trust the most godly president we've ever been privileged to have and the people who are assisting him?

I cannot believe how calm he is in the face of constant criticism. We could all learn from his behavior and demeanor.  I personally could not be more proud of my President. I'm sorry for those of you who do not have confidence in him. I truly trust and believe in my heart that he has the best interests of the American people in mind.  :star:
Title: Re: Dear Leader Didn't Listen To The Warnings About Covid-19
Post by: UGetPaid on March 24, 2020, 03:25:32 pm
What is amazing to me is how anything and everything negative that has happened since 2016 is 100% Trump's doing and how he has never made any good or helpful decisions except to his own personal benefit and to the direct detriment of everyone else in the nation. He has put African Americans back into slavery; he has transformed all women into barefoot and pregnant baby machines; he has personally tortured and killed every single immigrant he encountered (illegal or not); and he laughs at those suffering from the corona virus refusing to offer the slightest bit of help while he sits on his isolated throne.


I've said it before and will say it again. If you refuse to give even an ounce of credit to Trump for anything, then you are the problem; you are brainwashed; and you are, quite frankly, an idiot. If you heap more criticism that credit on Trump, but are willing to concede that he has done a few things right and many more things wrong, I strongly disagree with you, but we can at least have a conversation about it and I don't consider you to be the problem or a brainwashed idiot.