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Off-Topic / Re: what would you let go of first cable or internet

« on: December 02, 2014, 09:29:58 am »Message ID: 939913

Definitely cable. I could use Netflix and network websites to watch any TV shows I'm interested, so I wouldn't really have to live without TV if I didn't have cable.

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Off-Topic / Re: Officer Wilson

« on: November 28, 2014, 05:14:14 pm »Message ID: 938625

Not guilty.  He was doing his job.  End of story.

He didn't even file a report. He obviously wasn't doing his job.

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Off-Topic / Re: Officer Wilson

« on: November 28, 2014, 03:40:06 pm »Message ID: 938613

Very strong comments from all. But to me it feels like something is not right with this whole thing I feel that Wilson is not telling the whole story I believe there is more than meets the eye.

Forensic evidence and eyewitness testimony corroborate Wilson's story.

I still think something is not right. How did blood get in the police officers car. There was no need to shoot him period. He could have taken another source of action pepper spray or maybe tazed but not shoot him when he was unarmed.

You're exactly right. Mace should have been used, or Wilson should have stopped shooting when Brown was falling to the ground and no longer a threat to anyone. That would have been the right thing to do in the situation, and that's what should have been expected from an experienced cop. However, that's not what he did. He used deadly force when it should not have been used according to everything they teach police in training and everything everywhere else that talks about deadly force and police in the law.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Ferguson

« on: November 28, 2014, 09:51:10 am »Message ID: 938550

The reason a lot of people see it as a racial issue is because he killed the boy when he was never armed, left the body in the street for hours, and didn't make a report.

People make it a race issue because the officer was white and the young man was black. That's it. However, there is no evidence that race played any factor in the events that unfolded.

Yes, several witnesses agree he was shot in the front of the body, but most of those witnesses say he ran away about 35 feet away, turned around, surrendered, and was still shot several times. That's exactly what the physical evidence says as well.

Actually, the physical evidence, including the autopsy, support Wilson's claim that he shot Brown while Brown was charging at him with the fatal wound coming to the top of his head.

If the cop felt threatened by someone that was unarmed, he could have used a tazer. There was absolutely no reason to kill him, and that is why people are angry.

Brown could have not robbed a store, he could have gotten off the road when asked, he could have chosen not to punch a cop, he could have chosen to surrender and not run from the cop, and he could have chosen not to charge at the officer.

Officer Wilson wasn't carrying a taser, so no, he couldn't have just used a taser. Just because Brown was unarmed, doesn't mean he was not a threat. A 6'4" 300 lbs. man can do a lot of damage. This isn't the movies.

Also, the grand jury was presented with outdated laws. They were told it was constitutional to kill Mike Brown simply for running from Officer Wilson (can be found if you look through the Grand Jury transcripts). That, if you didn't know, would have been true if this had happened before 1985 when that law changed.

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Off-Topic / Re: Officer Wilson

« on: November 28, 2014, 09:42:47 am »Message ID: 938549

There was no indictment. But this does not give the rioters and looters the right to destroy and steal from the business or any one else, let alone tear there town apart or burn it. At this point I do not consider them anything but animals. Oh man if white citizens were to do this we would all already been in jail.

I'd just like to clarify in case you didn't understand this, but the rioters are completely different groups from the protesters. The protesters are actually guarding stores from looters so that the community can be protected as much as possible, and they are actually very peaceful. They've even been hugging the few cops that come out without their riot gear around them.

Also, the KKK has been burning the businesses of black community members in Ferguson as well. The media is only showing the parts that make the people of Ferguson seem like animals and not the entire story.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Ferguson

« on: November 28, 2014, 09:33:38 am »Message ID: 938548

The reason a lot of people see it as a racial issue is because he killed the boy when he was never armed, left the body in the street for hours, and didn't make a report.

People make it a race issue because the officer was white and the young man was black. That's it. However, there is no evidence that race played any factor in the events that unfolded.

Yes, several witnesses agree he was shot in the front of the body, but most of those witnesses say he ran away about 35 feet away, turned around, surrendered, and was still shot several times. That's exactly what the physical evidence says as well.

Actually, the physical evidence, including the autopsy, support Wilson's claim that he shot Brown while Brown was charging at him with the fatal wound coming to the top of his head.

If the cop felt threatened by someone that was unarmed, he could have used a tazer. There was absolutely no reason to kill him, and that is why people are angry.

Brown could have not robbed a store, he could have gotten off the road when asked, he could have chosen not to punch a cop, he could have chosen to surrender and not run from the cop, and he could have chosen not to charge at the officer.

Officer Wilson wasn't carrying a taser, so no, he couldn't have just used a taser. Just because Brown was unarmed, doesn't mean he was not a threat. A 6'4" 300 lbs. man can do a lot of damage. This isn't the movies.

He did, however, carry mace. That could have stopped Brown easily enough for Wilson to detain him. He had other options. There was no reason to use deadly force, because deadly force is only supposed to be used if the person is an immediate and horrible threat to the cop and the other citizens in the area. Deadly force is supposed to be used when guns are being pointed. Deadly force is supposed to be used when someone's life is being directly threatened. Deadly force is NOT supposed to be used against unarmed fleeing people. Deadly force is NOT supposed to be used when the person is falling to the ground and no longer a threat to anyone. Regardless, he continued to shoot.

Robbing a store is not a good reason to kill someone. And when Wilson stopped Brown, it was for jaywalking. He was not aware there had been a robbery at the time.

And Wilson demonized Brown. He called him a demon and referred to the boy as "it" instead of as a person. That's another reason people are making it about race.

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Off-Topic / Re: Does anyone shop for Black Friday?

« on: November 27, 2014, 10:37:29 am »Message ID: 938402

I usually don't, but I don't think I'm going to pass up the sales online this year.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Ferguson

« on: November 27, 2014, 10:34:18 am »Message ID: 938400

I think that it was a good decision. As more came out about the incident, including some African-American witnesses that agreed with Officer Wilson's story or the medical examiner's report that stated that the entrance wounds were in the front of his body, I felt that Wilson was actually doing what he thought he needed to do to protect himself. It's unfortunate that the story got undue attention, esp. from several race-baiting public figures, that tried to make this story as proof of racism in the police and an injustice of the judicial system.

I find it sad that people are protesting this decision as though this was a failure of our legal system even though only a few weeks ago a true travesty in our court system and law enforcement came to light when two men were released from prison after 40 years for a crime they didn't commit (http://abcnews.go.com/US/men-walk-free-40-years-prison-crime-commit/story?id=27095382). In that case, there was no physical evidence linking the men to the crime and the sole witness that was a minor at the time admitted that he made the whole story up after being pressured by police. Yet very little was reported on that and no one was marching in Cleveland about the incorrect verdict that had kept these men behind bars for the majority of their lives.

The reason a lot of people see it as a racial issue is because he killed the boy when he was never armed, left the body in the street for hours, and didn't make a report. Yes, several witnesses agree he was shot in the front of the body, but most of those witnesses say he ran away about 35 feet away, turned around, surrendered, and was still shot several times. That's exactly what the physical evidence says as well. If the cop felt threatened by someone that was unarmed, he could have used a tazer. There was absolutely no reason to kill him, and that is why people are angry. The case wasn't even handled properly, and the only reports written by the police station about the incident were by two cops that weren't even on the scene. And if you haven't noticed, the KKK has been openly supporting the police (especially Wilson) in Ferguson. It's definitely more of an issue of race than people would like to admit.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: What's Your Favorite Quote?

« on: November 26, 2014, 08:05:04 am »Message ID: 938094

My favorite quote is:

Sometimes it takes a good fall to really know where you stand.

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Off-Topic / Re: whats your

« on: November 26, 2014, 08:03:55 am »Message ID: 938093

Vanilla cream pie is definitely one of my favorite.

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Debate & Discuss / Ferguson

« on: November 26, 2014, 07:55:27 am »Message ID: 938092

What do you think about everything that's been going on in Ferguson for the last few months? Do you agree with the decision that Wilson should not be indicted for the murder of unarmed Michael Brown?

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Off-Topic / Re: Taylor Swift

« on: November 23, 2014, 03:35:50 pm »Message ID: 937451

Her music is okay. I really hate how the media treats her, though. Who cares who she dates, right? Who cares if she writes music about guys? There are guys that write music about abusing women, and we never hear anyone complaining about that in the media. As a person, I'd have to say I like Taylor Swift simply because she hasn't changed what she writes about regardless of what people have to say about it.

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Off-Topic / Re: do you ever do secret santa

« on: November 23, 2014, 03:31:09 pm »Message ID: 937449

We're doing secret santa in three of my classes in school. It should be interesting. I've never done it before this year.

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Off-Topic / Re: Why do people celebrate Christmas?

« on: November 23, 2014, 03:28:38 pm »Message ID: 937446

Silent you sure are Satans delight.Thats where the rebellion started in Eden.Satans claim that humans didnt need God and can have their own independence without all his rules.

Then he also said in Job that man only serves God for selfish reasons.You give him things etc...plus his own life.

Jesus,Job and many others proved Satan a liar.The world conditions show man cannot govern himself apart from God.But you have freedom of choice and maybe you are happy to live 80 years...not give a dam about others or world conditions....Thats freedom???!!!!

You would have been better off being born NOT in Gods image.Kind of a waste to have intelligence,justice,love etc wasted on you!!!

You see, without doing things of charity for religious reasons, I am doing it with no reason other than to help people. I volunteer a lot of my time to the community I live in. I don't do it because it will get me into heaven (because I don't believe in that). I do it because I believe that people should help other people if they can without the idea that it will benefit them. I do it without any expectation of personal gain.

Is there anything wrong with spending the years I'm going to live helping people simply because I can? Personally, I think it's even better to do things purely out of kindness rather than "my religion tells me to help people so I'm going to only so I don't go to hell because that would suck". While I'm volunteering my time next week at Thanksgiving dinners held in my community, I'll keep in mind how selfish I am to be doing that without my goal being to make your god happy. I'll keep in mind that I'm not really helping anyone because I'm not doing it for your god.

Don't assume that just because I am not religious I do not help people, that just because I am free I do not care about the condition of the world. Helping is not exclusive to people of religious faith.

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Off-Topic / Re: Underage Tatoos

« on: November 23, 2014, 03:12:26 pm »Message ID: 937421

Do you think it's ok for underage children to tatoos or piercings? Not the ear.

   arent those illegal to get?

I think they mean with a parent's consent. As long as the child's parent signs off on it, it's allowed. There are a lot of teenagers with tattoos and piercings. They wouldn't have been able to get them without a parent's consent.