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Mojoshog

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2010, 05:52:23 pm »
There needs to be better tools for employeers to verify that there employees are legal and more pressure for them to comply. It is too easy for companies to pass it off as a simple mistake when they make no effort to verify things anyway. Usually the same companies that do business without proper licsenses or insurance.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2010, 08:02:50 pm »
well i think it all depends on what you mean by " Illegal". I know i immigrated to the states from Canada and its a pain in the neck to become "legal" even though i speak english and am working and paying taxes etc! sometimes i think maybe i should have just moved here ILLEGALLY and it would have been so much easier and my husband and i wouldnt have had to fork out close to $3000 to get me to be here. But then again i think if i did move here illegally, and the feds found out (which im sure they would have in a very short time) i wouldnt be with my husband so...

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2010, 09:01:23 pm »
What do you mean by free?  Do you have to pay to get into the states now?  Do you have to pay to take the tests to become naturalized?  I really don't know the process having been born here.  However, I guess if you are illegal, who would you pay the people who sneak you in? 

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2010, 03:40:16 pm »
WE PAID A LOT! IT IS NOT EASY IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY. MANY ILLEGALS HERE CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY THE GOVERNMENT TO BE HERE THAT IS WHY THEY SNEAK IN. THEY SHOULD GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND SAVE MONEY AND COME BACK HERE LEGALLY. IT IS NOT FAIR TO THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE RULES. WE HAVE A FAMILY FRIEND WHO WORK IN THE HOSPITAL AND SAID, MANY ILLEGALS HAVE THEIR BABY BORN HERE AND THE GOVERNMENT IS PAYING FOR IT. WOW LUCKY! HOW ABOUT SOME AMERICANS THAT NEED HELP TOO? I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WENT TO THE PLACE, I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT. SOME GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION AND THEY ASKED FOR HELP BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE HOSPITAL BILLS AND GUESS WHAT THEY SAID? OH SORRY BUT YOUR HUSBAND HAVE A JOB. AND THERE IS TONS OF GANG BANGERS, ILLEGALS THAT THEY ARE HELPING. WHAT HELL IS GOING ON? IT'S HARD FOR THE GOVERNMENT NOW TO CATCH THE ILLEGALS BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT ASK FOR I.D'S BECAUSE IT IS DISCRIMINATION. WELL, THEY SHOULD ASK FOR IT. IF THERE'S NO PAPERS THAT SHOWS THEY ARE LEGAL HERE THEN PUT THEM ON THE TRUCK AND THROW THEM AWAY TO THE BORDER!!!! I'M SORRY I'M UPSET. SEEMS LIKE, THEY TOLERATE ILLEGALS, THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP COMING HERE. SAD  :crybaby2:



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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2010, 04:03:27 pm »
Im sure many people agree with me, I have no problem with you coming into our country, but please treat it with respect and do the things that you came here to do, don't be commiting felonies and crimes and obey the rules that all american citizens follow. I personally love to see immigrant families who are making their way by working hard and obeying the law.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2010, 08:16:31 pm »
Nobody should be allowed to enter our borders without proper documentation, regardless it's free or paid.

I received an email the other day from a friend of mine. It says:

Arizona governor vs. Phoenix Suns owner
 
The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's
new immigration laws. Arizona's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following
statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law:
 
"What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were
sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the
gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to
ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees
couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to
provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if,
on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to
provide free medical care and shelter?"

http://www.examiner.com/family-in-phoenix/governor-brewer-vs-phoenix-suns

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2010, 09:02:01 am »
Nobody should be allowed to enter our borders without proper documentation, regardless it's free or paid.

I received an email the other day from a friend of mine. It says:

Arizona governor vs. Phoenix Suns owner
 
The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's
new immigration laws. Arizona's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following
statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law:
 
"What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were
sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the
gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to
ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees
couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to
provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if,
on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to
provide free medical care and shelter?"

http://www.examiner.com/family-in-phoenix/governor-brewer-vs-phoenix-suns


Thanks for sharing that ! I love that lady! ♥

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2010, 11:10:56 am »
Illegal...against the law pretty much defines the answer for any moral/ethical person. I am okay with following the proper protocal which all of our citizens have done.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2010, 11:20:58 am »
if they aren't criminals they should be welcomed as long as they are law abidding they should have a chance for a better life.

I completely agree. Everyone who wants it, should have a chance to get a better life.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2010, 11:51:37 am »
No. I think anyone who comes here illegally into this country should be thrown out.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2010, 05:45:49 am »
most immigrants are good people but we have to find criminal elemnt and send them back or arrest them.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2010, 05:51:16 am »
No I do not think illigal immigrants should beable to come into this country for free. For the fact that for a legal immigrant to come into this country they must pass a test and they must pay the fees. But that is a little fee for the freedom they will get

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2010, 08:41:42 pm »
most immigrants are good people but we have to find criminal elemnt and send them back or arrest them.
Immigrants are not the issue ILLEGALS are the issue.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2010, 09:10:42 pm »
They shouldnt be outright allowed to just come to the country for free. There should be something done to keep them from crossing over. However, once they are here, theyre kinda necessary for our economy. Cheap labor helps us, and it helps them since they earn money. mutual relationship. but im sure its more complicated than that...

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2010, 10:22:31 pm »
Earlier someone posted about seeing them with wads of money because they can't get a bank account because of not being able to obtain an SSI number, etc.  So who's actually at fault here?  Is it the illegals, or the ones that make it comfortable for them to stay.....and keep breaking the law.

Who is hiring them at the back door illegally?  Who is paying them illegally?  When we pass some hefty fines (and I mean hefty) to business owners who let illegals work, and get paid under the table, then we might see some changes.  Any business owner or corporation caught hiring illegals should be slapped with danger of losing their business......that would do it.  They can't stay here if they have no way to make a living illegally.  However, they are finding work, getting paid under the table without paying taxes, getting free medical care, etc.  They aren't the only ones that are illegal in this scenario.

And.....hang on to your hat.  Obama has said more than once that SSI benefits should be made available for some illegals.  We are not just talking south of the border, but all different nationalities that are here illegally.  Think about it.

I'm all for people wanting a better life for themselves and their families, and doing what is necessary to bring it about......LEGALLY.  America is the land of opportunity, but mostly viewed as the land with a handout.



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