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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2010, 07:12:36 pm »
wow..


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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2010, 11:46:28 pm »
I am a half Cherokke Indian and proud of it.

I am not proud of the U.S. potentially stuff
from us Indians, Of course they haven't stole from me
yet and hope they don't.

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2010, 08:41:13 am »
I am a half Cherokke Indian and proud of it.

I am not proud of the U.S. potentially stuff
from us Indians, Of course they haven't stole from me
yet and hope they don't.
I can see very clearly by this short post that "they" have indeed stolen your cultural identity.

Half "Cherokee" ?.....which half?
The Elders teach that either you are TSALAGI or you're not no half about it.

If you were so proud of it you would at the least learn how to spell it, and at the most learn that "cherokee" is the name the europeans gave us(yeah they even stole our name from us) the traditional name and the one that all traditional(versus completely assimilated AMERICAN indians)cherokee use is "Tsalagi" can you say Cha-Luh-Gee?

The way I see it someone with Native ancestry but is totally assimilated isn't Tsalagi.

The fed.gov. have been attempting to make us extinct for over 500 years and yes it is very much still happening today.
Today, however, any murders are an uncommon occurrence and are never heard of save from in the very local vicinity.
The annihilation is more assimilation, B/Q, killing us off on paper........how many other races do you know of that even if you are 100% full blood but are not a member of one of the few tribes that are federally recognized, you are forced by law to claim on any identifying documents, such as birth certificate, drivers license etc any other race you want....EXCEPT FOR NDN!!!!!

The reason being......kill us off on paper and renege on all previous agreements/treaties, not to mention that there are absolutely zero treaties that the US ever entered into with any Native Nation and did not break.

No matter how much NDN blood runs through the veins of the citizenry here, once all of our people have been successfully  assimilated....there will be no more Indians.

It isn't the blood that courses through ones veins that makes them who they are....it is being intimately familiar with the traditions, the history, the language.....in other words, the culture. Once the forced, coerced, or other wise purging us of all of our NDNness we will no longer be the proud free Nations we once were........we will then simply be....americans.

I AM NOT NOR WILL I EVER BE AMERICAN!!!!!

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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2010, 09:06:53 am »
wado

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2010, 09:35:05 am »
wado
ro901 O'siyo.
   
gvlieliga.
osda sunalei

hi tsalagi s?

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2010, 03:10:20 pm »
why, don't we all stop paying taxes - we are all native to the earth - besides the indians of america say they belong to the earth as we all do - IMHO >> In My Humble Opinion - The MUSEUM, Zazzle, deviantART, ArtFire, FineArtAmerica

I agree with you their, my family pays around $11,000 dollars a year in property taxes for the farm land we have owned for many generations, so they are stealing from my family as well as any one else.

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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2010, 03:20:02 pm »
anyone that does not like the usa can leave any time - no one is making them stay - just because my grandparents came from a different country does not mean that i have to stay in the usa - i've been to 38 countries - every state in the usa - worked in 10 different states and lived in 6 more - i'll take florida over any state and the usa over any country - the last time i was reentering the usa - the custom's person asked what i thought about being back in the usa - told them 'it's great, americans are confident while all the others i had visited were arrogant and down right mean to americans" - but now it looks like the arrogance has landed on the usa shores and everyone wants something for nothing - not willing to work - only wants money from the obama stash - remember you get what you deserve - if you want health, peace and happiness you get it if that is what you sow - most get hate, fear and death because they can not forgive themselves - forgive yourself first - then you can forgive others - and a Happy New Year to all - by the way the indians were not the first people here in the land we call usa - the indians are also transplants from other areas of the world

I agree with you their, in my county where I live everyone is looking for a free hand out from the hard working taxpayer and all I keep seeing is my family's and my property taxes keep increasing to take care of the people that are stealing from me!

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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2010, 04:38:34 pm »
anyone that does not like the usa can leave any time - no one is making them stay - just because my grandparents came from a different country does not mean that i have to stay in the usa - i've been to 38 countries - every state in the usa - worked in 10 different states and lived in 6 more - i'll take florida over any state and the usa over any country - the last time i was reentering the usa - the custom's person asked what i thought about being back in the usa - told them 'it's great, americans are confident while all the others i had visited were arrogant and down right mean to americans" - but now it looks like the arrogance has landed on the usa shores and everyone wants something for nothing - not willing to work - only wants money from the obama stash - remember you get what you deserve - if you want health, peace and happiness you get it if that is what you sow - most get hate, fear and death because they can not forgive themselves - forgive yourself first - then you can forgive others - and a Happy New Year to all - by the way the indians were not the first people here in the land we call usa - the indians are also transplants from other areas of the world

I agree with you their, in my county where I live everyone is looking for a free hand out from the hard working taxpayer and all I keep seeing is my family's and my property taxes keep increasing to take care of the people that are stealing from me!
how far back can you trace the deed to your family farm?

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2010, 05:43:26 pm »
I live less than two miles from the Ak Chin Indian community. They are anything but mistreated. The Harrah's Ak Chin Casino rakes in millions of dollars(mostly from the pensions of retired White People). They enjoy free medical care, their own dialysis center, a huge recreation center. Most of them also got brand new homes. They are living better than I am.

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2010, 06:06:27 pm »
http://shema-yisrael.org/blogspot/2009/05/where-is-the-poorest-county-in-america/

Tim Giago, in his 2007 blog article The “Poorest County in America” gives a good description of those reservations that prosper due to the presence of Casinos vs. those who either choose not to use Casinos as an income source, or who would see no advantage in building them. While Giago cites data from the 1980 U.S. census, he states that 27 years later, when writing his article, “the Pine Ridge Reservation is still among the top ten poorest counties in America, and why three of the top ten poorest counties are located in South Dakota…What does that say about our elected Congressional delegation”? With that last question hanging in the air, I found myself wondering how much (if any) of President Obama’s much touted “stimulus package” was targeted to the Oglala Lakota Sioux and to impoverished Native American people?

A quick Google search found the March 13, 2009 USA Today article, Tribes look to $3B share of stimulus funds. Keep in mind, that as of a little over two months ago when the news story was published, the Pine Ridge Reservation wasn’t “rolling in dough” because of stimulus money. There is still a severe housing and job shortage among Native Americans on reservations in general, with an estimated 200,000 new homes needed. On Pine Ridge, 2 out of 3, or 63% of the population is unemployed. Compare that to the April 2009 national unemployment rate of 8.9%. Also nationally, unemployment among Native Americans is at a staggering 85%. I mentioned a housing shortage, but according to the Indian Housing Authority, one-third of the existing residences “are severely substandard, without water, electricity, adequate insulation, and sewage systems”.

You may be saying to yourselves, that all the tribes need to do is wait for the stimulus money to kick in, and they’ll be fine. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. Jacqueline Johnson Pata of the National Congress of American Indians, says that even the seemingly huge amount of funds dedicated to the tribes will barely scratch the surface of the enormous needs they face. 3 Billion dollars is a great deal of money, but it is to be shared by all of the nation’s 562 federally recognized tribes. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation reported in July of 2008 that “Indians are worse off economically than any other minority. In 2007, American Indians’ median household income - the middle figure, with half the amounts above and half below - was $35,000, 31% less than the $50,700 median for all Americans, according to the Census Bureau. One in four Indians, 25%, live below the poverty line, compared with 13% of all Americans”.

“Indians are worse off economically than any other minority” in the United States. We hear a great deal in the news about how difficult it is for people in these economic times. Certainly many of you reading this article have suffered because of the economy. It is regularly reported how various minority groups in the U.S. have a much harder time surviving and acquiring basic services than the average (non-minority) American. As a Messianic believer who has a focus on the Land of Israel, I also read many reports of how the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are suffering terrifically because of the “oppression” of the Jewish “occupiers”.

All that considered, we Americans have an “invisible” population of poor living within our very borders that we fail to acknowledge or even consider. When was the last time you read a news story or saw a T.V. report about the poorest people in the United States (besides those that I’ve drawn to your attention in this blog)?

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2010, 06:33:00 pm »
I live less than two miles from the Ak Chin Indian community. They are anything but mistreated. The Harrah's Ak Chin Casino rakes in millions of dollars(mostly from the pensions of retired White People). They enjoy free medical care, their own dialysis center, a huge recreation center. Most of them also got brand new homes. They are living better than I am.
Seeings how you live only 2 miles from the Rez, you may be interested in doing what I just did and call the finance dept at (520) 568-1027 and ask for an accounting of the hundreds of thousands of dollars they have contributed to the surrounding communities last year, in taxes as well as grants, scholarships and other donations.

Then perhaps if you would consider working some where close to as hard as they have you might just advance your standard of living to a point to where you wont have need of whining about how good the Jones' are having of it.

Just a thought. ;0)

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2010, 01:06:46 pm »
anyone that does not like the usa can leave any time - no one is making them stay - just because my grandparents came from a different country does not mean that i have to stay in the usa - i've been to 38 countries - every state in the usa - worked in 10 different states and lived in 6 more - i'll take florida over any state and the usa over any country - the last time i was reentering the usa - the custom's person asked what i thought about being back in the usa - told them 'it's great, americans are confident while all the others i had visited were arrogant and down right mean to americans" - but now it looks like the arrogance has landed on the usa shores and everyone wants something for nothing - not willing to work - only wants money from the obama stash - remember you get what you deserve - if you want health, peace and happiness you get it if that is what you sow - most get hate, fear and death because they can not forgive themselves - forgive yourself first - then you can forgive others - and a Happy New Year to all - by the way the indians were not the first people here in the land we call usa - the indians are also transplants from other areas of the world

I agree with you their, in my county where I live everyone is looking for a free hand out from the hard working taxpayer and all I keep seeing is my family's and my property taxes keep increasing to take care of the people that are stealing from me!

Back from 1860 is when my ancestors purchased our land, and back then it cost $1.25 per acre.
how far back can you trace the deed to your family farm?

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Re: The United States continues to steal from Indians
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2010, 01:12:23 pm »
anyone that does not like the usa can leave any time - no one is making them stay - just because my grandparents came from a different country does not mean that i have to stay in the usa - i've been to 38 countries - every state in the usa - worked in 10 different states and lived in 6 more - i'll take florida over any state and the usa over any country - the last time i was reentering the usa - the custom's person asked what i thought about being back in the usa - told them 'it's great, americans are confident while all the others i had visited were arrogant and down right mean to americans" - but now it looks like the arrogance has landed on the usa shores and everyone wants something for nothing - not willing to work - only wants money from the obama stash - remember you get what you deserve - if you want health, peace and happiness you get it if that is what you sow - most get hate, fear and death because they can not forgive themselves - forgive yourself first - then you can forgive others - and a Happy New Year to all - by the way the indians were not the first people here in the land we call usa - the indians are also transplants from other areas of the world

I agree with you their, in my county where I live everyone is looking for a free hand out from the hard working taxpayer and all I keep seeing is my family's and my property taxes keep increasing to take care of the people that are stealing from me!

Back from 1860 is when my ancestors purchased our land, and back then it cost $1.25 per acre.
how far back can you trace the deed to your family farm?
Wheres it at, perhaps you would be interested in some older history than that of it.

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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2010, 05:30:18 pm »
   
http://www.petitiononline.com/CrowCrek/petition.html



 To:  Bureau of Indian Affairs, President Obama, SD Governor Rounds, SD Senator Tim Johnson, SD Senator Thune,U.S. Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin

    On December 3, 2009 the Internal Revenue Service unlawfully auctioned off 7100 acres located on Crow Creek Sioux Tribal land.

    The land is owned by Crow Creek Tribal Farms, Inc. a Tribal corporation and distinct legal entity from the Crow Creek Sioux Tribe.

    According to the recent motion for temporary restraining order, filed by the Crow Creek Sioux Tribe, the IRS seized and auctioned the land to recover $3,123,789.73 dollars in unpaid employment taxes. The document states, Because of erroneous tax advice received from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the Crow Creek Sioux Tribe became delinquent in the payment of employment taxes collected by the IRS beginning in 2003. The BIA had informed the Tribe that, because it was a federally recognized Tribe, it was not necessary to pay federal employment taxes.

    The Crow Creek Indian Reservation was created by the 1868 Treaty, Act of April 29, 1868, 15 Stat. 635, and by Section 6, Act of March 2, 1889, 25 Stat. 888.

    The Crow Creek Sioux Reservation encompasses Buffalo County and portions of Hyde and Brule Counties. Crow Creek Sioux Tribe is consistently documented as one of the poorest Reservations in the Nation, with 78% of their members living below the poverty line.

    This despicable and irreparable action from the IRS, could ultimately eliminate 20% of the Crow Creek Sioux Tribes Reservation lands.

    This action taken by the IRS could ultimately set a precedence, allowing the continual land grab on Tribal Lands. We must ALL UNITE and take a stand on this issue, to voice Tribal Lands are NOT for Sale!

    We the undersigned, hereby request the immediate return of the unlawfully auctioned Crow Creek Sioux Tribal Lands.

    Sincerely,

    The Undersigned


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