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Falconer02

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Re: The proof that God exists...
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2010, 01:56:09 am »
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I bet this guy believes right now !!!

I bet that guy is thinking what his next step should be in order to survive the fall. Woah I just murdered that joke.

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As for proof of God's existence follow the bible prophecies and look at the archaeology evidence

It's funny that when you research this, creationists act as if it's undeniable evidence but they either don't have anything to show or they won't accept any criticism on it nor will they let any non-creationist study the subject. It's the reason massive craploads like the "Creationist Museum" exists. A good example is the instance of Mormons believing they have ancient writings supporting their beliefs of how all these religious phenomena happened around Jackson, Mississippi. Nobody has ever seen these objects and therefore nobody can study them. Just like Joseph Smith and his tablets. I'm under the impression you've been watching too much Indiana Jones.

Oh and Teflon-- are you a jw? ex-jw?

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since I have proof, just because you cannot see something with the human eye, and of course, you can not see God, God made humans. The things I seen, ha. I can't even look at your question without hoping for you to know the truth, without praying for you to lose your doubt, doubt is what is keeping you from seeing truth, only you do not know it. God will show Himself through Faith.

I pray to Xenu that he gets those Thetans off of your corrupt soul and delusional mind, my brother.

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The proof that God exists is found in the thought system of knowledge, rather than the thought system of perception.  In the realm of knowledge no thoughts exist apart from God, because God and His Creation share one Will.  The world of perception, however, is made by the belief in opposites and separate wills, in perpetual conflict with each other and with God.  What perception sees and hears appears to be real because it permits into awareness only what conforms to the wishes of the perceiver.  This leads to a world of illusions, a world which needs constant defense precisely because it is not real.

Who's this author? Morpheus? I actually did some reading on this just now and the book kind of bugs me. On the website it says the apparent author had dreams about jesus talking to her. Then she wrote them down.

"Schucman claimed to have written the material, with the help of William Thetford, based on the dictation of an inner Voice, which voice Schucman identified as Jesus. In the last paragraph of this section, Schucman explains why the names of the collaborators do not appear on the cover"

Granted I haven't read it, but I'd have a lot of difficulties accepting truth from a book that's a mixture of delusions and edits to make sense of it.

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Re: The proof that God exists...
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2010, 03:06:51 am »
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Re: The proof that God exists...
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2010, 05:42:22 am »
Around my part of the country we are Taught to Believe.. so  as anyone who teaches a stove is hot to a little child ; the stove is hot some times not always..? I was also taught to believe in santa clause, the easter bunny, :dontknow:

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Re: The proof that God exists...
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2010, 04:18:57 am »
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also the trinity is rooted in almost all gentile nations (egyptians, assyrians etc) so anyone thinking that the trinity is monotheistic is following himself.
The concept of the Trinity being both three and one is not that difficult to grasp. Imagine pouring three different types of paint together. They mix up together to form a single color, despite being made up of three unique colors.
I have no idea what you mean when you say the concept is rooted in Egyptian or Assyrian culture. There is nothing even similar to a Trinity in either region's  religions.

Here's some pics of their sun worship trinity oh btw the india trinity is also called a triune god  :o
http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_04.htm
You're assuming because Hindu is older than Christianity that all doctrines therein predate Christianity as well.
The doctrine of their trinity(Vishnu, Krisna and Brahma) post dates Christianity. Krishna existed centuries before Christ, but he was not considered to be a supreme deity for a long time thereafter(9th century).
The exact reason for the adoption of the Trinity is not easy to pin down. Though I agree it is partly due to pagan influences, it also partly to do with the Gospels themselves.
Matthew turned Jesus into a God child, and there wasn't much going back from there. It was only a matter of time before Jesus became a god himself. John flatly stated Jesus was a god. Unitarianism is impossible with the current cannon.
But if you have a greater God and a lesser god, you no longer worship only one God. Now you worship two gods. Therefore, it became vital that Jesus be elevated to the status of co-equal with God. Only by Jesus being God in the flesh, could the Oneness be persevered.

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I'm not trying to hurt peoples feelings or anything but it's a fact that the christian trinity is a 4th century invention that came from pagan origin.
It's not a 4th century invention. It's a 2nd century concept. Tertullian is the church father who first worked it out, and it became almost instantly the dominant belief within the church.

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Either way the fact that trinitARIANS believe that Jesus is NOT created contradicts scripture because it says he's created and according to the trinity doctrine Jehovah(YHWH) and Jesus are both equally eternal, yet Jesus has a beginning.
*Shrugs*
No idea what the Jehovah's witness believe. They're officially considered outside of the Christian faith by the Council of Churches, so they don't technically count as Christians. They're a Christian heresy.

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Can you give me the scripture where it says God wrestled with Jacob please.
Yep
Quote from: Genesis Chapter 32
24  And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
25  And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
26  And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27  And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
28  And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
29  And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
30  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

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