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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2010, 04:22:28 am »
I notice angel379227 suddenly got mighty quiet  :)
Care to address my above post?

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2010, 11:39:52 am »
I notice angel379227 suddenly got mighty quiet  :)
Care to address my above post?

Truth be told, I didn't think your post worthy of a response. If you insist though.

When I see folks refer to other faiths as a "scam" of "fairytales", it shows a lack of consideration and sets me off, but when I confront someone who claims they have "proof" either way that God exists or does not, then I really can't take anything they say seriously. C'mon now, Queen, you know that if such proof existed this matter would not be in contention. Please tell me you have another source other than that godisimaginary.com link, cause I perused that and it's just as one-sided and idiotic as any Christian site I've visited proclaiming they have definitive proof that the lawd does indeed exist.
The case that God doesn't exist is indeed where the default lies. You must prove God exists or have evidence, not the other way around.
Bertrand Russel argued that it is impossible for mankind to argue logically against a teapot orbiting around the earth at incredible speeds if the teapot is so small that it is undetectable even by the most powerful telescopes and machines we have on earth.

I can only assume that you're either agreeing with me here, or didn't pay attention to a word I said, so I'll move on.

I for one, see no reason why I cannot claim that there is in fact, no omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent being that is somehow listening to all the prayers of all the people in the world, and is capable of fathering human beings and making snakes talk.

Claim all you like, but never profess to have "proof" to back up your claims when it concerns the existence of a higher power. Again, I'm guessing you just skimmed my post.

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No, no it's not. You can't give me an analogy accurate enough, I'm afraid. You claiming there's a purple dragon in your garage can very easily be disproved if someone were to simply look in there. Your "proof" that God does not exists is based entirely on supposition. You speak of others being brainwashed, but really, you're the one sounding desperate to grasp at any straw that will keep your imagery alive. Purple dragon? No. Just admit you were wrong.
Well, I just did it(or Betrand Russel). So why don't you just admit you're wrong?

This is what truly leads me to believe you're either a moron, rather than before when I just thought maybe you can't read. So, you just did....what? Provide an accurate analogy to support your belief that God does not exist? I'm afraid not. Neither you nor your buddy Betrand Russel can do that, any more so than all these bible-thumpers here can "prove" that he does exist. I know, I know, the burden of proof lies in their hands. So why claim to have your own? Doing so only shifts the burden, and your case is just as weak as theirs.

You fail to understand that *whatever* Jesus believed and taught Christianity is defined by it's followers not by Christ.

What dictionary are you reading that has such definitions? Last I checked, the word Christian literally translates to "Christ-like", so it seems logical to me that to be a Christian is defined by the teachings of Jesus Christ and not his followers.

I can sort of understand where you're coming from though. After all, I stopped shopping at Best Buys solely because some of its employees pissed me off. I think of it as the company's fault for hiring such incompetent individuals, but really, that analogy can't apply to Christianity, as Jesus is long dead and gone and so has no say over how his "employees" handle his "business". If he only knew what horrors and bigotry would be committed in his name I'm sure he would be mighty irate and all hell would be broken loose, pun-lulz.

My point is that how YOU define Christianity is just, like, your opinion. My opinion is that Christianity is defined by the words of Jesus Christ (not the Bible, necessarily, but that's another matter) Also, saying I "fail to understand" something is ironic, to say the least.

My apologies to the community. I really felt that last nonsensical post was a good way to just let this topic die, but the kiddie felt the need to keep prodding.
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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2010, 12:26:39 pm »
Nice to see people have so much free time on their hands :angel11:

Didn't you say you're unemployed?


Im unemployed  lots of free time too      am i going to heaven or hell? Hell laid me off Im collecting unemployment   seems like heaven  Religion just confuses me.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2010, 12:19:19 am »
I wanna make babies with Kymberli0529 <3<3  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2010, 12:31:40 am »
Okay
The Bible is a book that was written about the trials and tribulations of mankind, what someone, or some people thought created mankind, and how they decided to deal with their problems, or an explaination for their problems occuring, It is essentially a instruction manual  for life written back in the day. Keep in mind that all of these things that "supposedly happened" in the bible were written so that people had some kind of answer for something, a panic button for the unknown......

"Why are we all here?", "What do we do now?" were always the big questions. People needed to know why they were dying, why people were slaves, why Overlords and Rulers wanted to take over peaceful places, or why the less fortunate didn't thrive, or simply why there were so many things going wrong in this world. People at that time needed answers and hope, so they wrote a book about it.
 
 As sure as you and I are able to type on this computer,(thanks Michael Dell, you rich *bleep*!!!) there would be no explaination for mankind without the research of evolution, sciences and nature (I'm not talking about Scientology, whatever the hell that is). We are here simply to be here, to do our thing on this planet, to evolve. DNA proves this. Genotyping proves this. History proves this, The Scientific Method proves this. We are simply Nature, and we struggle to survive and not repeat the same mistakes we did in the past.

 If God was the supreme creator of life,then we should all be gods!Women, men and animals down to the smallest parasite, all have the power to bring life into this world, Only natural causes, and mankind have the choice to snuff out life, and some of it is in our control, and some of it is not. Learning from your mistakes is evolution Evolution is not absolute, it does not follow a certain path. Its predictable, yet spontaneous by nature, and it is constantly moving in this world It is not ruled by one single being or principle to be followed. No one being "owns" the creation or destruction of our world, it was contributed by all living creatures on this planet. That is why we live, that is why we die. In nature, Hurricanes, plagues, earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, volcanoes, sinkholes, tornadoes mudslides, all of which kill 1000's of people, every year. All natural causes. I believe its just nature's very own special "earth" crowd control, a "shaking off of fleas" so to speak, nothing we can do about it, but we evolve to handle the next situation. And that, my friend, is why we are still here, and there are MANY books about evolution written and agreed upon about that!
Oh, and I am an Atheist.......

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2010, 01:13:15 am »
Figured all these people are posting about how they think god exists and blah, blah, blah.......so I thought I'd create my own topic.
I do not believe nor will I ever.  You can preach and testimony all you want, I grew up a Catholic, and was one until about two years ago.  I have researched, studied, and believed until that point.  I know alllll about being a christian, faith, god, etc.
Personally, I don't believe anyone should rub it into anyone's face that they are goin to hell for not believing...
That they are wrong for not believing...
That the person preaching is better than the non-believers or feels sorry for the non-believers because they don't believe...

Everyone is equal.  We need to respect ourselves, respect our fellow man, and respect our earth before we give respect to some statue who we 'think' died on a piece of wood.  Doesn't the bible tell you not to worship man-made idols?  Well, were you there at the time of christ?  Isn't the bible a tool of a man-made idol IE the cross?  Isn't the figure of your christ on a cross in churches an idol?  Furthermore, how do christians believe so differently amongst themselves...IE..Baptists, Catholics, Etc....... They all condemn each other because they all interpret the bible differently.  It's all very silly to me.  I believe in equality, I belive in peace and justice and love.  I don't believe there is some evil(my definition) person waiting for me at some pearly gates telling me that I lived badly so he can send me to hell.  Too many evil doers, injustices, and just plain nastyness in this would to suggest to me that someone is watching over us. 

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2010, 07:28:48 pm »
one way or another we will all have an answer the moment after death....we will know exactly how we should have lived, loved and laughed....If I was truly convicted that there was no designer to the universe and that my actions posed no consequence or reward after my life story played out....i suppose I would live my life quite selfishly.
Respect is a form of a "god".   So in a way your deity is respect...your religion is respect for man.  If their is truly no god or diety....why bother with trustworthy, love, respect, or any virtue man has apparently come up with.  One could argue those virtues were developed to regulate civilization and simply learned.  If you believe those virtues are innate....ha.  They are taught.  Those virtues were developed by man over millenia...guided by a belief in god(s). 

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2010, 07:41:28 am »
One could argue those virtues were developed to regulate civilization and simply learned.  If you believe those virtues are innate....ha.  They are taught.  Those virtues were developed by man over millenia...guided by a belief in god(s). 

That's pretty unfortunate, dell, if one has to believe in a magical being to be a decent person. 

I don't think Christians have their stories straight about being "good" and "bad".  Seems Christians are only good because god wants them to be, and if they happen to do something wrong like cheat on their spouse, they get a "get out of hell free" card simply for believing in a sky daddy.

It's as simple as don't F people over because that's not good for humanity's survival, and that's the only reason we're here, to survive.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 am »
I personally believe that this whole planet is god,
and we are god.  :thumbsup:

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2010, 05:13:18 pm »
well that's something you will have to deal with when the end comes, good luck with that

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2010, 03:29:02 am »
I personally believe that this whole planet is god,
and we are god.  :thumbsup:
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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2010, 12:10:28 pm »
God exists differently to everyonein the world.....
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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2010, 12:20:51 pm »
 :thumbsup:  dislexics believe in,,, DOG

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2010, 12:54:29 pm »
 ::) Put everything together - write a book and close the subject.  :bootyshake:  :confused1:

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2010, 01:30:41 am »
Lmao

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