immigrants

[freepcmoney]

The ONLY thing the law does is hold the state's employees accountable for actually enforcing the FEDERAL LAW! So read the truth and suck on that!

So tell me why this subject is such a hot topic if Arizona is only enforcing the federal law?  I didnt see anything in  that law that covers profiling. I didnt see anything in that law that states the employees of the state of Arizona have the right to stop, detain, harass anyone who looks like they shouldnt be here. Im sure This is not what
the federal law intended. And lets hope somebody in Arizona dosnt need a cop for a life or death emergency  and the cops cant get there quick enough coz they got some guy some citizen of the United States of America pulled over coz he dosnt look like he should be here. Or the mom in the mini van with her kids and her kids friends  have to explain to the kids  that they get pulled over alot coz they just dont look the way Arizona law makers want them to look.  So we can read the truth all we want  its the reality we have to deal with.  And your anger does show every time you end your posts with your little snide remarks.

There are two reasons why this is such a HOT topic.

#1. Eric Holder---Attorney General of America, has admitted that he HAS NOT even read the 10 page law, BUT HE IS AGAINST IT. HE IS THE IDIOT that was appointed by the other IDIOT, Obama, who is against it, and I'll guarantee he has not read it either. Because IF he had read it, then he would see that it is no different than the federal law. BUT I am sure that he hasn't read that one either. THE DEMOCRATS JUST WANT TO STAY IN POWER, AND WILL DO OR SAY ANYTHING TO TRY AND STAY THERE.

#2. This nation is FULL of mentally incompetent people that, unfortunately vote, carry protest signs, and run their mouths about things that they know NOTHING about. Liberalism is a MENTAL DISORDER.   

[freepcmoney]

The ONLY thing the law does is hold the state's employees accountable for actually enforcing the FEDERAL LAW! So read the truth and suck on that!

I feel sorry for you!!

I am sure that you sympathies are SO MUCH appreciated. Have you read the Arizona law?? Have you read the Federal law??

[freepcmoney]

S.B. 1070
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1 owner and each person identified on the department's record with an interest
2 in the vehicle shall be provided with an opportunity for an immobilization or
3 poststorage hearing pursuant to section 28-3514.
4 Sec. 10. Title 41, chapter 12, article 2, Arizona Revised Statutes, is
5 amended by adding section 41-1724, to read:
6 41-1724. Gang and immigration intelligence team enforcement
7 mission fund
8 THE GANG AND IMMIGRATION INTELLIGENCE TEAM ENFORCEMENT MISSION FUND IS
9 ESTABLISHED CONSISTING OF MONIES DEPOSITED PURSUANT TO SECTION 11-1051 AND
10 MONIES APPROPRIATED BY THE LEGISLATURE. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ADMINISTER THE
11 FUND. MONIES IN THE FUND ARE SUBJECT TO LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION AND SHALL
12 BE USED FOR GANG AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND FOR COUNTY JAIL
13 REIMBURSEMENT COSTS RELATING TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
14 Sec. 11. Severability, implementation and construction
15 A. If a provision of this act or its application to any person or
16 circumstance is held invalid, the invalidity does not affect other provisions
17 or applications of the act that can be given effect without the invalid
18 provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this act are
19 severable.
20 B. The terms of this act regarding immigration shall be construed to
21 have the meanings given to them under federal immigration law.
22 C. This act shall be implemented in a manner consistent with federal
23 laws regulating immigration, protecting the civil rights of all persons and
24 respecting the privileges and immunities of United States citizens.
25 Sec. 12. Short title
26 This act may be cited as the "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe
27 Neighborhoods Act".

[muush88]

"THE DEMOCRATS JUST WANT TO STAY IN POWER, AND WILL DO OR SAY ANYTHING TO TRY AND STAY THERE."

Well this goes for all politicians  whatever side of the isle they are on.

[lvstephanie]

So tell me why this subject is such a hot topic if Arizona is only enforcing the federal law?  I didnt see anything in  that law that covers profiling. I didnt see anything in that law that states the employees of the state of Arizona have the right to stop, detain, harass anyone who looks like they shouldnt be here. Im sure This is not what the federal law intended. And lets hope somebody in Arizona dosnt need a cop for a life or death emergency  and the cops cant get there quick enough coz they got some guy some citizen of the United States of America pulled over coz he dosnt look like he should be here. Or the mom in the mini van with her kids and her kids friends  have to explain to the kids  that they get pulled over alot coz they just dont look the way Arizona law makers want them to look.  So we can read the truth all we want  its the reality we have to deal with.  And your anger does show every time you end your posts with your little snide remarks.

Nothing in the law that covers profiling...

"C. This act shall be implemented in a manner consistent with federal
23 laws regulating immigration, protecting the civil rights of all persons and
24 respecting the privileges and immunities of United States citizens."

Yeah, I can't see it either...

[lvstephanie]

But seriously... In the bill (Thanks Cupcake!!! Now we can actually have a rational discussion) it states that the cops must first have pulled someone over for something else and only then check their immigration status. And the Supreme Court has already established that pulling someone over for racial profiling is not considered to be "reasonable suspicion". Unlike what our president said, it is illegal for a cop to harass a father and his son just going out for an ice-cream just because they are Hispanic and don't have their "papers". And all the worry about "papers" is also fairly ridiculous... The "papers" are forms of documents that all citizens probably have available anyways (a valid Arizona driver's license works!), esp. if they are driving and get pulled over. I never think twice when a cop pulls me over for speeding and asks for license, registration, and proof of insurance. And as the cop is checking if there are outstanding warrants on me, in Arizona they'd just use the computer to check immigration status as well (which you could consider as another form of warrant checking, since being in this country illegally is, well, illegal).

Could there be racist cops that will want to pull Hispanics over just because of their race? Yes, but then they are abusing some different law in violation of the person's civil rights. It isn't this new law that is causing the cop to pull them over... All it is doing is saying that the state needs to be in compliance with Federal immigration laws and dictating how this is to be done.

I hope my state will enact similar legislation, esp. since we're also a border state albeit a border with Canada instead of Mexico. And actually, states that don't already have something similar (even if not explicitly stated) are in violation of the US Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article VI Clause 2): "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." In other words, the supreme law of the land is the Federal immigration law, which the Arizona law keeps stating as its reason for having the law and the need to implement such a law to begin with, and any state that does not try to enforce the Federal immigration law (like they'd do for the Federal kidnapping law, etc.) would be going against the constitution.

[barnes987]

immigrants are no the issue, it's illegal immigrants that pose the problem.

[Cuppycake]

immigrants are no the issue, it's illegal immigrants that pose the problem.

Exactly!

[ivyruefthaler1]

What is wrong with immigrants, it sounds like ur being either racist or prejudice to me...

[Cuppycake]

What is wrong with immigrants, it sounds like ur being either racist or prejudice to me...

The whole point is if you are here LEGALLY no problem. If you are here ILLEGALLY then YES there is a problem!

[ivyruefthaler1]

sure okay...

[Cuppycake]

But seriously... In the bill (Thanks Cupcake!!! Now we can actually have a rational discussion) it states that the cops must first have pulled someone over for something else and only then check their immigration status. And the Supreme Court has already established that pulling someone over for racial profiling is not considered to be "reasonable suspicion". Unlike what our president said, it is illegal for a cop to harass a father and his son just going out for an ice-cream just because they are Hispanic and don't have their "papers". And all the worry about "papers" is also fairly ridiculous... The "papers" are forms of documents that all citizens probably have available anyways (a valid Arizona driver's license works!), esp. if they are driving and get pulled over. I never think twice when a cop pulls me over for speeding and asks for license, registration, and proof of insurance. And as the cop is checking if there are outstanding warrants on me, in Arizona they'd just use the computer to check immigration status as well (which you could consider as another form of warrant checking, since being in this country illegally is, well, illegal).

Could there be racist cops that will want to pull Hispanics over just because of their race? Yes, but then they are abusing some different law in violation of the person's civil rights. It isn't this new law that is causing the cop to pull them over... All it is doing is saying that the state needs to be in compliance with Federal immigration laws and dictating how this is to be done.

I hope my state will enact similar legislation, esp. since we're also a border state albeit a border with Canada instead of Mexico. And actually, states that don't already have something similar (even if not explicitly stated) are in violation of the US Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article VI Clause 2): "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." In other words, the supreme law of the land is the Federal immigration law, which the Arizona law keeps stating as its reason for having the law and the need to implement such a law to begin with, and any state that does not try to enforce the Federal immigration law (like they'd do for the Federal kidnapping law, etc.) would be going against the constitution.

I find it funny that California has such a problem with Arizona's law when they themselves have a similar law ! Not to mention the highest concentration of the mexican cartel is IN California...  
http://www.newser.com/story/66901/mexican-cartel-crew-indicted-in-san-diego-kidnap-murders.html

http://www.newser.com/story/34515/mexican-cartels-growing-pot-in-us-national-park.html

[Cuppycake]

California politicians, liberals and agitators are either deliberately or otherwise ignorant of the fact that California has illegal alien laws on the books similar to Arizona's.

And the Federal laws give the power to law enforcement to stop ANYONE - AT ANYTIME - FOR NO REASON and request the person show appropriate paperwork of ability to legally be in this country.(Same as all or nearly all countries ON THE PLANET!!!)

Without another reason to stop a person(s)- just stop ANYONE ANYTIME. And the US Supreme court has upheld these FEDERAL LAWS unanimously.

Calif. Penal Code Sec. 834b

834b.(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.

(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following:

(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.

(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States.

(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity.

(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

[vangabhargavi]

Every country has immigrants.. so obviously i think laws for immigrants for their own good...

[ppv2]

A solution to the problem of illegal immigration must be found.  We are all paying a very high price.  The big question is how much longer can the US afford to  pay so high a price?