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debraleesparks

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 12:03:57 am »
 :- I live in the central valley of California, where most of the migrants come to work in the fields, and orchards.. We have a water shortage here now, and the farmers are not able to grow anything.. The migrant workers are out of work, and they are stealing, and doing anything at all, to be able to eat.. They won't go home, because there is nothing for them back in Mexico.. They are really desperate right now.. I am afraid to leave my house alone, because as soon as anyone leaves theirs for more than an hour, it gets burglerized. People who don't live in an area like this are against the law they just passed in Arizona... I UNDERSTAND IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 08:02:54 pm »
Before you can solve the problem, you must stop the cause of the problem.

Put the national guard all along the Mexican Border and order them to kill anyone that comes actoss it, that does not pass through customs. PROBLEM SOLVED!!

Then start deporting ALL the ILLEGAL'S who are here. Otherwise, IF you deport them today, they will be back next week, the way the border is now. Gotta STOP ALL ILLEGAL BORDER  CROSSING FIRST!!!

I think that is a bit much, but I do feel that it is necessary to deport illegals and secure our border. I'm not against immigration, but as the child of immigrants who came to the United States LEGALLY, I know that there are more ways than sneaking across a border to secure a better life in a better country.

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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 08:06:56 pm »
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Re: immigrants
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 10:36:04 pm »
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Everyone deserves a chance huh? So lets open the borders and allow Afgan/Iraq to come on over. Some of them might actually decide not to blow us up. And as far as the AZ law I support it. The Mexicans who have problems with it probably have a family member in America who is here illegaly. I don't see the big deal about carrying around a piece of paper. They did it to themselves....

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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 11:02:34 pm »
wow I don't even know what to say.  I came to this country illegaly when I was 15.  It was not my decision but my dads, I didn't want to come nor did my sister who was 13, we simply had no choice.  This was more than 22years ago.  At first the language barrier, the diversity of people, the customs was overwhelming and we just wanted to go back, we even tried running away but couldn't get far.  As the days, weeks, months and years went by this became our home. Neither my sister or I have papers yet, its complicated.  It is sad to hear that some people think so little of us immigrants.  Althought I may not be legal, I have always work hard, I have health insurance, I have owned and paid several cars, I am in the process of buying a house.  I have ok credit and don't owe anyone.  I tried to follow the law and try to keep out of trouble.  Most people know of my legal status, I am no ashamed of being an illegal immigrant, but they also know of my integrity.  Being illegal doesn't mean that we are criminals, I would never shoot anyone unless I had a life threatening reason and even then I think I would have a problem.  For anyone to say just shoot as they come accross sounds to me like your saying "use this as an excuse an go trigger happy". That just sounds wrong.

I don't even know what to say....

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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 11:24:03 pm »
I'm not really decided on this issue as in Ronie's case, they can't help what their parents decided to do. As far as I'm concerned ronie is now an American mixed with whatever and wherever their from. Sure we have to learn different languages, pay for things and what not, but we also help others out, if we didn't and didn't have trade with other countries and things like that, we wouldn't have help in times of war. People really need to stop getting their panties in a bunch over stupid crap like this, leave it alone and frankly since two countries are linked with ours top and bottom both Canada and Mexico, why can't they just come over and visit? There never was passports for Canadians as for Mexico I'm not sure so why now? because of what happened for 911? Oh geeze well its still happening with our own people, maybe we need to keep better tabs on people in the states rather than worry about other places.

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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 11:58:45 pm »
wow I don't even know what to say.  I came to this country illegaly when I was 15.  It was not my decision but my dads, I didn't want to come nor did my sister who was 13, we simply had no choice.  This was more than 22years ago.  At first the language barrier, the diversity of people, the customs was overwhelming and we just wanted to go back, we even tried running away but couldn't get far.  As the days, weeks, months and years went by this became our home. Neither my sister or I have papers yet, its complicated.  It is sad to hear that some people think so little of us immigrants.  Althought I may not be legal, I have always work hard, I have health insurance, I have owned and paid several cars, I am in the process of buying a house.  I have ok credit and don't owe anyone.  I tried to follow the law and try to keep out of trouble.  Most people know of my legal status, I am no ashamed of being an illegal immigrant, but they also know of my integrity.  Being illegal doesn't mean that we are criminals, I would never shoot anyone unless I had a life threatening reason and even then I think I would have a problem.  For anyone to say just shoot as they come accross sounds to me like your saying "use this as an excuse an go trigger happy". That just sounds wrong.

I don't even know what to say....
:sad1: :sad1: :sad1:No,,you are NOT following the law, if you are here illegally.

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 01:46:01 am »
 :sad1: :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:              oh, and you must have gotten a social security card illegally, if you have credit to buy a house, and get a drivers license... maybe Fusion Cash should turn you in to ICE.

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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 11:51:45 am »
wow... no actually I applied pretty much just like you did... my social is mine, my dl is mine... fortunatelly for me neither one of you runs this country, there is still laws that protects us.  Funny thing is that people from my country are never in the news about committing crimes.  If you watch the news closely majority of the people there are affluent people.  People who went to school, people who were trained in fields in which they have access to anything.  Not to stereo type but my people are hards workers, we all have jobs, hell my brother is a recruiter for the marines, yes he is serving this great country.  My oldest son wants to also be a marine, my seven 7year wants to be president as you can see we are not here for anything else but to make it just like you.  Yes I may not be legal but just like you, I pay taxes, I am not on government assistance as I believe that as I long as I am able I will work for what I want.  As for ICE they already know about me. lol... so calling them won't do you any good.  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 12:22:48 pm »
 :thumbsup:  OH WELL THEN IF THEY KNOW YOU, AND YOU GOT YOUR S.S. CARD, YOU MUST BE LEGAL.  YOU MIGHT HAVE A GREEN CARD. THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THEY ONLY GIVE S.S.CARDS TO PEOPLE WHO CAN PROVE THEY ARE LEGAL. SOME PEOPLE USE DEAD PEOPLES S.S. NUMBERS, AND THAT IS ILLEGAL. IF YOU ARE WELL KNOW HERE, AND GOT YOUR CARDS THE RIGHT WAY,,, THEN GOOD LUCK TO YOU.WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO RUN ACROSS THINKING THEY WILL GET RICH HERE,,THEN WHEN THEY FIND OUT HOW IT REALLY IS, THEY STEAL AND DO ANYTHING THEY CAN TO EAT.THEY NEED TO GET A GREEN CARD, AND STARVE LEGALLY.

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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2010, 01:11:25 pm »
immagrants need help also this is america land of the free

No. It has to have a stopping point. Enough is enough.

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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2010, 01:14:19 pm »
I'm not against anyone moving anywhere they want as long as they do it legally and don't come here to become a drain on system.  If you want citizenship follow the rules it's that's simple.  

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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 01:15:16 pm »
wow I don't even know what to say.  I came to this country illegaly when I was 15.  It was not my decision but my dads, I didn't want to come nor did my sister who was 13, we simply had no choice.  This was more than 22years ago.  At first the language barrier, the diversity of people, the customs was overwhelming and we just wanted to go back, we even tried running away but couldn't get far.  As the days, weeks, months and years went by this became our home. Neither my sister or I have papers yet, its complicated.  It is sad to hear that some people think so little of us immigrants.  Althought I may not be legal, I have always work hard, I have health insurance, I have owned and paid several cars, I am in the process of buying a house.  I have ok credit and don't owe anyone.  I tried to follow the law and try to keep out of trouble.  Most people know of my legal status, I am no ashamed of being an illegal immigrant, but they also know of my integrity.  Being illegal doesn't mean that we are criminals, I would never shoot anyone unless I had a life threatening reason and even then I think I would have a problem.  For anyone to say just shoot as they come accross sounds to me like your saying "use this as an excuse an go trigger happy". That just sounds wrong.

I don't even know what to say....

YES actually is DOES mean you are a criminal as BEING here is AGAINST the law! WTF part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?



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Everyone deserves a chance huh? So lets open the borders and allow Afgan/Iraq to come on over. Some of them might actually decide not to blow us up. And as far as the AZ law I support it. The Mexicans who have problems with it probably have a family member in America who is here illegaly. I don't see the big deal about carrying around a piece of paper. They did it to themselves....


AMEN !
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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2010, 08:01:17 pm »
I believe that people should be able to find a way into the United States legally. The new law in Arizona is crazy.

Freepcmoney, why do you think that people trying to find a good life should be killed? I could understand if they come to the US to commit crimes, but MOST of the time, they come here just to work.  I don't see a problem with deporting them if they commit crimes, but at least give people a chance.
I agree with you 100% I do not feel that there is really any need to have to kill people.  What exactly are we tring to prove by killing people? Especially since the majority of the time they are trying to save their lives and the lives of their children by coming to America. I know some people that were illegal immigrants and I find it very sad.  Although, it may be against the law I still find that some are are GENUINELY trying to find a better way of living to help support their families.  So really what is the harm in that?  Yes some countries are trying to hurt America but we are also hurting ourselves.  With all of the crime going on in America alot of it is americans themselves.  Not all of the people in jail are illegal immigrants but Americans themselves!!!  So sorry to say but we are not perfect, we were just fortunate enough to be born here!!!

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2010, 11:34:22 pm »
wow... no actually I applied pretty much just like you did... my social is mine, my dl is mine... fortunatelly for me neither one of you runs this country, there is still laws that protects us.  Funny thing is that people from my country are never in the news about committing crimes.  If you watch the news closely majority of the people there are affluent people.  People who went to school, people who were trained in fields in which they have access to anything.  Not to stereo type but my people are hards workers, we all have jobs, hell my brother is a recruiter for the marines, yes he is serving this great country.  My oldest son wants to also be a marine, my seven 7year wants to be president as you can see we are not here for anything else but to make it just like you.  Yes I may not be legal but just like you, I pay taxes, I am not on government assistance as I believe that as I long as I am able I will work for what I want.  As for ICE they already know about me. lol... so calling them won't do you any good.  ;)
If you pay taxes, work, your brother is a recruit for the marines, you are not on govt assistance than you deserve to be a US citizen. The only people that should not be allowed to come here are the ones who, don't work, don't pay taxes, don't contribute to the U.S. at all, and live off the government.

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