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mochlead5

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2010, 09:14:03 pm »
U.S. Congressman, abolitionist, "Father of the 14th Amendment" John Bingham confirms the understanding & construction Founders/Framers used re birthright & jurisdiction in the House of Representatives March 9, 1866:
"I find no fault with the introductory clause which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States OF PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.."

The individual currently ILLEGALLY inhabiting the Oval Office has declared himself to be the son of a NON-IMMIGRANT to the United States.  The father being nothing more than a visitor to this nation conferred his British/Kenyan citizenship upon his child, AT BIRTH THROUGH THE NATURAL LAW.
Article II's "Sunset Clause"  has long since lapsed into obsolescence  It "grandfathered" in/ exempted from the natural born citizen requirement all those who, at the time of the Constitution's adoption were citizens only- but NOT natural born citizens ; for they, like the current Usurper(not covered)were born subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign sovereignty & owed it allegiance

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« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2010, 04:05:56 am »

If you are here ILLEGALLY YOU ARE THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES! GTFO!

Having an aunt here illegally is treason?   :BangHead:   Times square bomber U.S. citizenship, some of his accomplices U.S. citizenship  Timothy Mcvey citizen US Army Veteran,  Sept 11 2001 suicide bombers most or all were here legally. learning how to use our infrastucture against us. So its ok to kill as many americans as you can if you have the correct paperwork.  But to hell with anybody who picks fruit or vegetables or works in the backstretch of any racetrack in america. we complain about they take all the jobs away from us but we dont want to do them anyway.

Treason, sedition mean disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government. Treason is any attempt to overthrow the government or impair the well-being of a state to which one owes allegiance; the crime of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government.
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YES KNOWINGLY allowing his ILLEGAL ALIEN AUNT to live in this country on public assistance while claiming allegiance to the United States of America IS TREASON!  Treason is giving aid and comfort (public assistance HELLO and allowing her to ILLEGALLY be here) to an enemy of the USA. ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE FOREIGN INVADERS! Wake up and smell the fing tacos !
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« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2010, 04:07:11 am »
TO EVERYONE,

IF YOUR AMERICAN YOU WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND TOOK HISTORY, SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT A PART OF AMERICA WAS ONCE MEXICO.
 
IF YOU THINK IMMIGRANTS SHOULD BE SHOT THEN... BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IF YOU THINK THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING JOBS FROM AMERICANS THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR A JOB WHERE HARD WORK IS INVOLVED. THE THE FIRST THEY WOULD HIRE IS AMERICANS AND IF AN AMERICAN DOESN'T HIRE YOU IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE POTENTIAL IN YOU FOR THAT TYPE OF JOB. IMMIGRANTS ARE HARD WORKERS THAT ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO APPLY FOR JOBS YOU GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY  IN WITCH MANY AMERICANS ARE NOT WILLING TO DO.

YES I THINK IMMIGRANTS SHOULD HAVE PAPERS TO BE IN AMERICA, BUT FIRST THEY NEED TO COME TO AMERICA IN ORDER TO APPLY TO BECOME A US CITIZENS AND TO BECOME A CITIZEN ITS NOT THAT EASY OR CHEEP.

EVERYONE WANTS TO COME TO AMERICA AND LIVE A BETTER LIFE AND THAT'S WHAT AMERICA OFFERS EVERYONE.

WHAT MAKES AMERICA TO BE WHAT IT IS, LAND OF THE FREE. ITS NOT JUST AMERICANS IS EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN AMERICA.

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Your post means nothing as the INVADERS are already here illegally!

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« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2010, 04:08:23 am »
Illegal immigration is indeed a very hot topic and a topic that causes anger and hate to erupt in many people. Sometimes I catch myself saying something bad about illegal immigrants, but then I take a step back and look at things from a different perspective. We are all in search of a better life in one form or another, just some people do by means of coming to this country illegally. Yes it is wrong and a crime, but people should not lose their lives because of it. The US needs to get up off their lazy asses and do something about it. Action gets things done, complaining about it gets us no where.
I am an immigrant who came to the US 17 years ago LEGALLY in search of a better life. I did everything in my power to make sure I did all the right things to become a citizen. I sacrificed to pay the fees for my applications and citizenship papers when I had very little money to spare. So if someone is here illegally and they want to stay here, they have no excuse.

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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2010, 04:43:06 am »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.

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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2010, 04:43:52 am »
if you have the paperwork to be an american SO BE IT if not then get out

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« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2010, 04:55:42 am »
I think if you are here legally and done the proper paperwork so be it but those that get her illegally and then get false social security card and take work away from everyone else is wrong.

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« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2010, 05:42:52 am »
I have to agree with everyone on this topic.  We, as Americans, are paying too much to programs that support illegals and we cannot continue to do so.  They need to return to their country or become citizens and pay into the very programs that they drain.  I believe that all people should have a great life and seek it out for their families and friends but it must be done in a legal fashion.

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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2010, 04:15:12 pm »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.
It isn't just about the taxes. They are flat out criminals. If they will do one criminal act there is no reason to think they won't do others. They DO NOT care about this country or anyone in it. They do not respect the laws of the land as the give their allegiance to the *bleep* hole they left behind.  Why anyone would claim to "love" mexico and be "so proud" of being mexican yet not want to live in the country they think is so freaking great is beyond me ...

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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2010, 04:54:26 pm »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.
It isn't just about the taxes. They are flat out criminals. If they will do one criminal act there is no reason to think they won't do others. They DO NOT care about this country or anyone in it. They do not respect the laws of the land as the give their allegiance to the *bleep* hole they left behind.  Why anyone would claim to "love" mexico and be "so proud" of being mexican yet not want to live in the country they think is so freaking great is beyond me ...

I think everyone should be free to express how they feel but it really gets to me to see how much anger you have in you towards Mexicans I don't know what you have experienced in your life that makes you feel so strongly about Us But NOT all Immigrants are criminals even if they did come here Undocumented. Sorry if this offends you but I have seen soooo many of your comments and all of them are full of hate.
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2010, 05:09:46 pm »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.
It isn't just about the taxes. They are flat out criminals. If they will do one criminal act there is no reason to think they won't do others. They DO NOT care about this country or anyone in it. They do not respect the laws of the land as the give their allegiance to the *bleep* hole they left behind.  Why anyone would claim to "love" mexico and be "so proud" of being mexican yet not want to live in the country they think is so freaking great is beyond me ...

I think everyone should be free to express how they feel but it really gets to me to see how much anger you have in you towards Mexicans I don't know what you have experienced in your life that makes you feel so strongly about Us But NOT all Immigrants are criminals even if they did come here Undocumented. Sorry if this offends you but I have seen soooo many of your comments and all of them are full of hate.

You know what if you are here ILLEGALLY then YES you are a criminal. I do not know what part of ILLEGAL you can't get through your thick skull.... And yeah I have had enough of the illegals and most of them are mexican. It is time for this country to be taken back by the REAL Americans. The ones that LEGALLY belong here immigrant or natural born need to stand up for what is RIGHT and make the ILLEGALS go back and try again!

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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2010, 05:35:56 pm »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.
It isn't just about the taxes. They are flat out criminals. If they will do one criminal act there is no reason to think they won't do others. They DO NOT care about this country or anyone in it. They do not respect the laws of the land as the give their allegiance to the *bleep* hole they left behind.  Why anyone would claim to "love" mexico and be "so proud" of being mexican yet not want to live in the country they think is so freaking great is beyond me ...

You are full of hate. I dont think its just the illegal imigrants that bother you.

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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2010, 05:37:44 pm »
I hope you all know that the United States was created for people to immigrate away from their country's problems/religions/cultures etc. The only thing that bothers me about illegal immigrants is that they don't pay full taxes. If they were taxed completely then I wouldn't mind at all :D.
It isn't just about the taxes. They are flat out criminals. If they will do one criminal act there is no reason to think they won't do others. They DO NOT care about this country or anyone in it. They do not respect the laws of the land as the give their allegiance to the *bleep* hole they left behind.  Why anyone would claim to "love" mexico and be "so proud" of being mexican yet not want to live in the country they think is so freaking great is beyond me ...

You are full of hate. I dont think its just the illegal imigrants that bother you.

That's the feeling I get too. It makes me sad that she and other  people like her live their lives day after day feeling like that. It can't be good for your health to be so angry.
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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2010, 06:33:13 pm »
Sorry, I don't see any anger issues here at all. These people are simply stating their opinions and reasons for thinking this way. Usually when someone is ignorant about the facts then they have to use "feelings". Everyone has the right to their point of view, but don't go classifying people w/o knowing all your facts, muush88.

As for this issue, our country was founded by legal immigrants including my family. These people are looking for a better way of life but there is a legal process. AZ adopted their version of the US law that the government does not uphold.

Here is a clip from CNN interview of Mexican President Calderon:

BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job...

CALDERON: No, no.

BLITZER: They can work.

CALDERON: If -- if somebody do that without permission, we send back -- we send back them.

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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2010, 10:01:36 pm »
Sorry, I don't see any anger issues here at all. These people are simply stating their opinions and reasons for thinking this way. Usually when someone is ignorant about the facts then they have to use "feelings". Everyone has the right to their point of view, but don't go classifying people w/o knowing all your facts, muush88.

As for this issue, our country was founded by legal immigrants including my family. These people are looking for a better way of life but there is a legal process. AZ adopted their version of the US law that the government does not uphold.

Here is a clip from CNN interview of Mexican President Calderon:

BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job...

CALDERON: No, no.

BLITZER: They can work.

CALDERON: If -- if somebody do that without permission, we send back -- we send back them.

Thank you!

To the others that take issue with the FACTS: It angers me when people disagree with the law and try to bend it to their own will. The ones that do that either have illegal status themselves or someone they are related to someone that does. Yes I get angry that the people of this country have become such sheep that they sit back and don't think past their day to day life and see the things that are wrong and do something about it. I am NOT one of those sheep nor do I EVER intend to be. I prefer to stand up for what is right like the founding fathers did.

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