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ButterflyWings

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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #105 on: September 02, 2010, 08:59:53 am »
Roses are not perfect they all have a defect thats the beauty in it..You cannot make it perfect..

Water nope it can be green have bacteria in it this and that and we can try but surely something will make imperfect

Colors not perfect they are colors they are changeable they have imperfections

Imperfections are true beauty

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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #106 on: September 02, 2010, 09:04:32 am »
Roses are not perfect they all have a defect thats the beauty in it..You cannot make it perfect..

Water nope it can be green have bacteria in it this and that and we can try but surely something will make imperfect

Colors not perfect they are colors they are changeable they have imperfections

Imperfections are true beauty

i gotta go with you on this, pretty well spoken. ur right. nd roses die. water evaporates . and no color stays the same forever...
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #107 on: September 02, 2010, 09:28:21 am »

perfection ceased to exist when we got the knowldge of good and evil : the ability to judge. that's why we are mortal and all must die. the bible teaches us that god warned us of this and eve disobeyed seeking god's power - judgement
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #108 on: September 02, 2010, 09:40:33 am »
The Bible is God's word, it is HisStory (history) from Genesis to Revelation - and you can see where He is a faithful, covenant-keeping God who fulfills all His promises; fulfilling the one where His only Son, Yahshua, became the sacrificial Lamb, becoming flesh and dying on the cross that we could all be saved from sin by His grace.  He set apart His people and promised the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; that land was NOT promised to Ishmael nor his descendants.  Therefore Israel belongs to the Jewish people and will remain God's chosen land, set apart for Him.  HisStory will come to a fitting climax when Yahshua returns as the Warrior King, and reclaim Jerusalem where both Jew and Gentile will become one.  And He is coming soon!

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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #109 on: September 02, 2010, 09:41:42 am »
Honestly God never said he made anything Perfect, he said it was Good in his eyes. Shoot, I look at the birds and clouds and Oceans and rain and Flowers and Fruit on trees...etc and it is all good in my eyes.
I agree 100%. but i dnt think good and evil even exist. good an evil are both one letter away from god and devil (irrelevant). in the bible the knowledge of good and evil is what we got when eve ate the fruit, seeking god's power. then decieved adam into the same. the truth is, god created us in his image and we have always tried to be like him. we create artficial versions of what he has before us. robots creation reminds me of god creating man. the movie terminator plays this out as if the same thing we've done to god, machines will do to us.
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #110 on: September 02, 2010, 10:47:26 am »
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but i dnt think good and evil even exist.

What do you categorize the actions of persons who, open their home to foster children to nurture and care for them, and the persons who open their home to foster children and rape and abuse them? Are both actions of the same caliber? How you do define those actions in contrast to one another if not by the actions of good and evil?


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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #111 on: September 02, 2010, 12:46:26 pm »
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but i dnt think good and evil even exist.

What do you categorize the actions of persons who, open their home to foster children to nurture and care for them, and the persons who open their home to foster children and rape and abuse them? Are both actions of the same caliber? How you do define those actions in contrast to one another if not by the actions of good and evil?
bottom line, if you treat others how you want to be treated you will do well. that's what i follow, i used to do alot of wrong but i learned from it. every person deserves respect and consideration of their views as human beings. in this case - if one is acting out of care for another life he will respect it. the one who dosen't will eventually learn from his actions. life is a cycle. therefore the terms good and evil are not literal, but judgemental.
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #112 on: September 02, 2010, 02:04:10 pm »
So in other words...if I term some action as evil it is only my judgmental opinion. So anyone doing anything "wrong" such as murder rape and theft....are not doing evil things as long as it is their opinion that it's ok to do so. And I should respect the murderers view as a human being that their actions were justified. I should just hope they learn from it and not consider it an evil act.

Hmmm interesting.


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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2010, 02:30:47 pm »
So in other words...if I term some action as evil it is only my judgmental opinion. So anyone doing anything "wrong" such as murder rape and theft....are not doing evil things as long as it is their opinion that it's ok to do so. And I should respect the murderers view as a human being that their actions were justified. I should just hope they learn from it and not consider it an evil act.

Hmmm interesting.
it's not about respecting ones actions or saying everyone is right. they will lean from thier actions in the log run and its not about justifying their actions, things will happen, bad will always come because we created it. Everything we do comes back pleasurable or less favorable depending on our actions.
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2010, 02:43:54 pm »
You are looking at this from a limited perspective. You think...hey I learned from my mistakes, so can other people. I see in your post that you have the right idea about accepting that people do make mistakes and we shouldn't grind them into the ground for it. However, it's very naive to think that everyone will learn from their mistakes. Certain behaviors require judgment by the law in order to provide safety to the rest of society. Some criminals can be reformed, some can't. Good and Evil exist in this world, people make a choice to act on good or to act on evil......if the evil they commit puts people in danger the law has a right to judge them and put them behind bars.

You are right about the golden rule...treat people as you like to be treated. Not everybody does that though and you can't make them. You are right about things coming back around to us...the bible says so...you reap what sow. Evil actions create evil repercussions. 


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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2010, 02:50:10 pm »
You are looking at this from a limited perspective. You think...hey I learned from my mistakes, so can other people. I see in your post that you have the right idea about accepting that people do make mistakes and we shouldn't grind them into the ground for it. However, it's very naive to think that everyone will learn from their mistakes. Certain behaviors require judgment by the law in order to provide safety
i agree, the problem is, this countries laws don't focus on that. they focus on what they can tax and how to get more money. just look at everything... look how things are getting.
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2010, 02:53:03 pm »
You are looking at this from a limited perspective. You think...hey I learned from my mistakes, so can other people. I see in your post that you have the right idea about accepting that people do make mistakes and we shouldn't grind them into the ground for it. However, it's very naive to think that everyone will learn from their mistakes. Certain behaviors require judgment by the law in order to provide safety
i agree, the problem is, this countries laws don't focus on that. they focus on what they can tax and how to get more money. just look at everything... look how things are getting.
Well I can't argue with that!  ;)


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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #117 on: November 23, 2010, 05:31:36 pm »
The Bible was writen by man , inspired by the All mighty. 

I believe is intent was to give us guideline in which to live.  Like everything manufactor today come with instruction so God gave us the Bible.

I don't believe that there is anyone on the planet that does not believe in the All Mighty.  Even so-call Atheists cry out to God when there are in an airplane crashin.

I think our goal is to be open to the truth, and learn it his works for ourselves , not have it spoon feed to us as truth.  Cuz you never know the thoughts of the flawed human feeding it to you.

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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #118 on: November 24, 2010, 05:03:07 am »
Even so-call Atheists cry out to God when there are in an airplane crashin.

Uh...no.  Only a weak person would think that Magical Sky Man can save them... conveniently forgetting that it is Magical Sky Man who allowed it to happen in the first place, right?
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: The Bible as Truth?
« Reply #119 on: November 24, 2010, 06:11:16 am »
Roses are not perfect they all have a defect thats the beauty in it..You cannot make it perfect..

Water nope it can be green have bacteria in it this and that and we can try but surely something will make imperfect

Colors not perfect they are colors they are changeable they have imperfections

Imperfections are true beauty
Omg that was SO SWEET and it touched my heart and made me feel beauitful :') anyways...
We don't call u aithesit, Christains call people who do NOT believe in God, thats who is called a aithesit

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