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destinyredd

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2008, 02:47:20 pm »
The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, concurred by fault of their pc.
These Merchants have no problem with the BILLING/APPLYING CHARGES.
(sabotaged by "cookies etc.")  :bs:

This is> :fish: y to me. ::)

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site, in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  :crybaby2:

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

P.S. Even if there was no monetary loss for some offers, it costs these people TIME!
TIME IS MONEY.  :angry7:
« Last Edit: January 28, 2008, 04:12:59 pm by destinyredd »

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2008, 03:25:40 pm »
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The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, by fault of their pc.
This sounds pretty > fish y to me. Roll Eyes

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFERS section.
Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.

Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  crybaby2

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  wave
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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2008, 08:13:06 pm »
well, it sounds like the advertisers you have found are just looking for easy ways of getting people to sign up for their spam for free, according to what you said Admin. This is a lovely way for them to get around government spam rules :|

They send out the confirmation emails so we can provide proof that we completed the offers.
We can send you the confirmation emails and you can show the companies.
They should be held accountable for it. They should live up to their end of this deal.
Otherwise its just them scamming us and you getting blamed for it.

As for the
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properly configured browser
, what are you meaning? I'm nowhere near a computer newbie, and all of my properly configured browsers werent getting me credited here so I decided maybe you guys meant completely clean not-adjusted. I have tried a fresh install of IE, Firefox, and Opera and there are still many things not crediting me yet i have an inbox full of emails from them (although completely clean opera seems to be working the best for me, some of your advertisers only want IE users).

As stated in other threads, no matter what we do, there are many advertisers just simply choosing NOT to credit us, but still sending us confirmation emails and 20 spam emails a day. While you get paid and we get nothing. We do everything right and still get nothing from several of them.

Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.


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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2008, 08:13:36 pm »
The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, concurred by fault of their pc.
These Merchants have no problem with the BILLING/APPLYING CHARGES.
(sabotaged by "cookies etc.")  :bs:

This is> :fish: y to me. ::)

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site, in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  :crybaby2:

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

P.S. Even if there was no monetary loss for some offers, it costs these people TIME!
TIME IS MONEY.  :angry7:

Here Here............ :thumbsup:

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2008, 10:43:16 pm »

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.




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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2008, 10:48:13 pm »

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.






Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2008, 10:58:28 pm »

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.


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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2008, 11:01:43 pm »

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2008, 11:24:02 pm »

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????

overall?

that theres only so much that fc can do to not to *bleep* off the advertisers, keep us happy.... and make some $.


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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 03:05:07 am »

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.






Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

I am SURE that Fu$ionCa$h receives an INITIAL amount of money
for ACCEPTING them as their advertising partner(s).

Yet I am AS SURE that IF their advertising partner(s) decline US credit:
they are NOT crediting Fu$ionca$h for that SAME SAID OFFER either. 

Therefore that particular amount would be coming out of THEIR pocket. :angry7:

If you do the math on HOW MANY people participate on this site,
SURLEY the INITIALLY rendured charge couldn't possibly cover the
rate/cost of each subsequently claimed/marked: uncompleted offer(s).

BTW, I'm not only "for real," but I consider myself to be a REALIST in conjunction.  :wave:
So come on my friend, find yourself some LOGIC to validate your claims/accusations.  ;)
« Last Edit: January 29, 2008, 04:58:43 am by destinyredd »

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2008, 03:31:12 am »

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????

overall?

that theres only so much that fc can do to not to *bleep* off the advertisers, keep us happy.... and make some $.



How about their advertising partner(s) need to be concerned as to:
whether they tick Fu$ionCa$h off?

Seeing that THEY are privileged to have the opportunity to have been acknowledged/portrayed as a credible advertising partner(s).  :wave:

Not to mention the ramifications/predicament/loss this imposes upon Fu$ionCa$h,
when dealing with us as JADED participants.  :crybaby2:

This is an issue of PRIORITIES.  :notworthy:

Fu$ionCa$h is known to have LESS advertising partner(s) because of their own
convictions, or they could be receiving even MORE INITIAL payments, by accepting
LESS than credibile advertising partner(s). :wave:

If there is to be a dispute, the advertising partner(s) need to be kept "in check."  ;)
And should be held accountable for renduring less.  :bs:
As WE CAN be BANNED, so should the FAULTY advertising partner(s) be as well.   :bs:

Again, it is "the People" that keep Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

« Last Edit: January 29, 2008, 05:03:11 am by destinyredd »

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2008, 06:13:55 am »
We do not recieve any money, in any form or amount, before you do. We are not paid to put up advertisers offers, or have them mentioned on the site. We are paid PER lead. We are not paid, until you are. Now, you can either believe what both Tyler and I said, but please do not continue to make random statements in the dark.
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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2008, 06:23:26 am »
We do not recieve any money, in any form or amount, before you do. We are not paid to put up advertisers offers, or have them mentioned on the site. We are paid PER lead. We are not paid, until you are. Now, you can either believe what both Tyler and I said, but please do not continue to make random statements in the dark.

There you go then!  ;D
Even more of a reason not to advocate/promote/hold Fu$ionCa$h responsible in this matter concerning this poll.  :bs:
Thanx for this clarity Kohler.  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: January 29, 2008, 06:24:33 am by Kohler »

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Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2008, 06:30:37 am »
Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.
I've said this over and over, but we monitor offer crediting on a daily basis and we DO remove offers that fail to credit.  Every offer on the site has a solid and documented history of crediting for a reasonable/logical percentage of the users who click it.  It may be hard to believe, but consider that people mostly post on here when they are NOT credited rather than when they are.  Also, take a look at some of the threads where people post their list of credited offers and I'm sure you'll find many instances of so-called "offers that never credit" appearing (case in point: FastWeb).

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2008, 06:51:32 am »
Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.
I've said this over and over, but we monitor offer crediting on a daily basis and we DO remove offers that fail to credit.  Every offer on the site has a solid and documented history of crediting for a reasonable/logical percentage of the users who click it.  It may be hard to believe, but consider that people mostly post on here when they are NOT credited rather than when they are.  Also, take a look at some of the threads where people post their list of credited offers and I'm sure you'll find many instances of so-called "offers that never credit" appearing (case in point: FastWeb).

I can attest to this as being true, as I have seen it happen in the past.  :thumbsup:

I was merely suggesting an alternate: "report scam" section, to replace
the recently removed "Manual Credit" option, in hopes of appeasing
some of the participant's aroused by this option change/controversial Poll.  :wave:

BTW, I have completed offers that haven't credited me,  :(
AND I have BEEN credited for others.  ;D

It works for me.  :notworthy:

P.S. I am amongst the 7%, and proud of it.   ;)
« Last Edit: January 29, 2008, 07:18:18 am by destinyredd »

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