Favorite Bible Quotes

[Annella]

Kind of on a funny note:  If the Bible told us to do 3 somersaults in order to be saved, wouldn't you do it?

 the Bible doesn't say to be water baptized in order to be saved though...one gets saved and then in obedience gets baptized.  I was 8 years old when I was saved, I was the ONLY one in my family that was attending church at that time (also for several years before and after age .  I could only attend SUN am worship service, rarely a WED or SUN night.  I was never told about baptism until several years later at which point I had asked in the church about it and it drew some laughter and the response I got was "that is something a person does right after they get saved as it symbolizes to others that that person is "born again" and now living for Christ".  I never said a Christian shouldn't get baptized, I believe they should.  I've had a long time now living for Christ, I've never made a secret of it.  If I decided to get baptized at this point...it wouldn't make any sense to me or the others that know me.  If I ever feel Christ telling me to go get baptized then I certainly will but He has convicted me of any wrong-doing in that dept.  I know many other "religious" people so bent on telling me the unbaptized won't be going to Heaven that commit repeated sin left and right...somehow that's supposed to be "better" than someone that missed water baptism.   Again, God will judge the hearts.

Kind of on a funny note:  If the Bible told us to do 3 somersaults in order to be saved, wouldn't you do it?

 the Bible doesn't say to be water baptized in order to be saved though...one gets saved and then in obedience gets baptized.  I was 8 years old when I was saved, I was the ONLY one in my family that was attending church at that time (also for several years before and after age .  I could only attend SUN am worship service, rarely a WED or SUN night.  I was never told about baptism until several years later at which point I had asked in the church about it and it drew some laughter and the response I got was "that is something a person does right after they get saved as it symbolizes to others that that person is "born again" and now living for Christ".  I never said a Christian shouldn't get baptized, I believe they should.  I've had a long time now living for Christ, I've never made a secret of it.  If I decided to get baptized at this point...it wouldn't make any sense to me or the others that know me.  If I ever feel Christ telling me to go get baptized then I certainly will but He has convicted me of any wrong-doing in that dept.  I know many other "religious" people so bent on telling me the unbaptized won't be going to Heaven that commit repeated sin left and right...somehow that's supposed to be "better" than someone that missed water baptism.   Again, God will judge the hearts.

Okay, your twisting the words here.  Of course it's in obedience.  No, you don't get Baptized to get saved, but it is part of the plan of Salvation.  You repent, and then Baptized to "remit" those sins.  Are you just jumbling the words here, or are you actually being serious?  Your making it sound like I'm saying you have to get Baptized before anything else........of course not.  I honestly can't believe you thought that's what I was saying.

You certainly would have to "see" your need for Baptism, and it's personal.  Of course you have to repent first, I mean, what would be the point?  You would go down a dry sinner, and come up a wet one.

I know people who have been in another denomination for years and years, and see that their need for Baptism. Who cares when you do it.  That's not important.  You should understand why, and what the "act" actually Means.  I don't baptize anyone unless they fully understand what and why.

Yes, God will judge the thoughts, and intents of our heart.  He will also judge what we heard, understood, and either accepted or rejected in His Word.

The fact people laughed at you.......is not funny.

[Annella]

Annella, I think you better refer to who you quoted as to saying anything about "need". That quote you used in your last post was from SherylShado, NOT ME. You wondered why I said "4th time" in another post as far as your assimilating me into replies I had nothing to do with - here is yet another example of it.

I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

I believe they were copying this when they posted that, Sheryl. The citing of The Acts verse has nothing to do with going to heaven. It is receiving the Holy Spirit and therefore salvation. Even the gentiles received the Holy Ghost, so that is not 'proof' of going to heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with going to heaven either. Nowhere does the bible say do this ceremony and you will receive salvation and get into heaven. Salvation is supposed to come from faith, not from faith and then a ceremony someone goes through.

Let me put it this way: if baptism is necessary for salvation then anyone who 'receives Christ' on his deathbed in a hospital, etc. would go to hell if they don't get baptized before they die. Also, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then all babies who die go to hell since they weren't all baptized.

I was referring to the quote above.....this is not yours?   This was a quote off of Sheryl's post.  I pulled them off together, and answered them both. 

I'm sure it's yours.  I went back and checked.

[jordandog]

Annella, you cited this part of John 3:5, "Jesus answered, I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit."

Let me ask you this. It is always 'assumed' that water here means baptism. Why is that, since Christian baptism by water hadn't yet been practiced/instituted at the time it was written?  If this verse did mean baptism, then the only kind that it could have been was baptising to repent sins as in the works of John the Baptist. I was taught that we repent our sins to God alone. No one can be baptised alone, as far as I am aware. A person needs salvation to enter heaven, yes? If salvation comes through faith and there isn't a baptism of repentance anymore, then why is baptism necessary for heaven?

I am writing this to ask, not to argue with you, since you pretty much shot down what I said as far as Acts. I am giving you what I was taught and have previously studied over the course of 25 years, and part of that is the 'fact' that most people use the Acts verse as 'proof' of needing to be baptised to get into heaven.

edited to add:

What I WILL post is when the Word of God is not being interpreted correctly and giving people false information.

How can you know, with absolute surety, that your interpretation of the bible is 'correct'?

I took your answers as ones to this question directed specifically to you. You answered them all and in depth. You saying I did a 180 and mentioned need used a quote from SherlyShado and I had already taken the answers as far as my INITIALLY mentioning 'need' from all previous posts BEFORE my last question. The question of "Need" was no longer mine. I don't see that as doing a 180 because I had NOT brought 'need' back up after my initial post that you used. Taking my post from the 18th and tying it in 6 days later is really not a 180 on my part, can you see that?

[Annella]

Okay, but when I answer a post, and someone has "pulled" someone's else's post to make their point, then I feel both should be addressed.  Is that not correct?  Would you not do the same thing?  Everybody's posts here are available for everyone else to pull off to refer to, combine with others, make a point, or answer.

Your acting like I'm trying to single you out to "wound" you.  Or misquote you.  Not so.  The post is yours.  Granted, Sheryl took it to tack onto hers, but it was still yours.  If Sheryl "pulled" your post to add credence to her stand, then I wanted to be sure it all got answered.  That's all.  No foul here.

I went back to "check".  Your post was made BEFORE the "water" question.  Sheryl went back and pulled it, and tacked it onto hers (like I thought).  It was an older post.  I can see how you thought all the answers derived from it was past.  However, there were some key points in it that I wanted to make clear for Sheryl as she was using it as reference.

[jordandog]

"Taking my post from the 18th and tying it in 6 days later is really not a 180 on my part, can you see that?"
Just in case it was missed after I modified.

I do not feel at all like you are trying to wound me, that's silly and not your style. I just try NOT be the type who DOES do the 180's, they make my head hurt! And I did read all you wrote, as I said previously. I don't do anyone the disservice of asking questions and the NOT reading what they say, no point in it.

[Annella]

"Taking my post from the 18th and tying it in 6 days later is really not a 180 on my part, can you see that?"
Just in case it was missed after I modified.

I do not feel at all like you are trying to wound me, that's silly and not your style. I just try NOT be the type who DOES do the 180's, they make my head hurt! And I did read all you wrote, as I said previously. I don't do anyone the disservice of asking questions and the NOT reading what they say, no point in it.

Like I said, I went back and checked.  It was an old post Sheryl had pulled.  It was almost a week old.

[Annella]

Wait is someone really debating baptism with water? Remember when Jesus got baptized by John the baptist? remember it was in water?

No.......it was jello.

[jordandog]

Wait is someone really debating baptism with water? Remember when Jesus got baptized by John the baptist? remember it was in water?

Talk about NOT reading previous posts!

[Annella]

Wait is someone really debating baptism with water? Remember when Jesus got baptized by John the baptist? remember it was in water?

Talk about NOT reading previous posts!

Ya

[jordandog]

Wait is someone really debating baptism with water? Remember when Jesus got baptized by John the baptist? remember it was in water?

No.......it was jello.

 

[amyrouse]

Wait is someone really debating baptism with water? Remember when Jesus got baptized by John the baptist? remember it was in water?

Talk about NOT reading previous posts!

Yeah don't have time, right now.

Then maybe you should have waited to post a response until you have read all the posts.  Someone (namely Annella) took the time to type it all out; the least you could do is read it before you jump into the conversation.   

[jordandog]

Sheryl,
No you did NOT cause a problem - don't even remotely think that, seriously.

[jordandog]

Sheryl,
No you did NOT cause a problem - don't even remotely think that, seriously.

      thank you jordandog,  ( been loving the cat avatar    --you have some really great posts that mean something to me or I wouldn't quote you so much.)

Thanks and I love the cat too, as long as my dogs don't see it and they start the petty, jealous stuff. There's enough stress around here lately without taking on any that isn't warranted - that's for sure.

Aww, TY too, marieelissa. Glad you appreciate things.

[tantricia44]

Obviously he left a long time ago.  Your a bit behind for sarcasm.

Nope.

Falconer why r you wasting your brain cells on these brainless/mindless ones? I'm soooooo tired of the raving & ranting with all this energy they waste; it could power 10000 cities! The power shortage would be solved!! Lighting up the mood; I found a funny poem,author unknown: There R 2 things that you have 2 worry about in life. Either you stay healthy or you get sick. If your healthy there's nothing to worry about but if u get sick, there R 2 things 2 worry about; either u get well or you die. There R 2 things 2 worry about if you die. Either u go to hell or u go to heaven. If you go 2 heaven there's nothing to worry about. If you go 2 hell..................you'll be soooooo busy greeting Old Friends YOU WON'T HAVE TIME TO WORRY!!!;)

Hahahah I love it. Thanks. The reason I'm posting is to just hear others opinions to see if there's anything unique to them; anything I haven't heard a million times before. I might learn something new here and there. Granted we have a ton of christian fanatics/zealots/retards with nothing to post but their close-minded, biased, convenient philosophy junk...it's really good to see the free thinkers who can see passed the obvious bullshit. I've met some cool and intelligent people in this forum (queen, jordan, walksalone, liljp, tmz, EDIT: AMYROUSE! Sherna, you) so it's good to know that this forum isn't constantly being chewed up completely by cultists.

Falconer02, I agree. If there weren't any intelligent fellow form friends like you & others....I would've left along time ago. In fact, I just got back in. I needed a break from the the stupidity of the brainless ones. I'm recharged now, ready for mental battle. I do enjoy mentally screwing with the zombies that over power this forum. I can tell you do to. Keep fighting the good fight!!!!

[IceKittyNM]

I am not a christian...I think there may be a God, but it is hard to tell. Honestly I really don't care...If there is a God there is and if not, O'well...I don't waste my time thinking about it.

I posted this in a much earlier post:

"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is." (This would be the difference between spending an eternity in either Heaven or Hell)
— Albert Camus

Just remember.....we are ALL going to face Him one day and give an account of our lives!!! I believe that day is coming VERY soon!!

I've just been skimming through this thread, so I haven't completely read everything, but I just want to say that with the way things are going in this world nowadays, we could very well be seeing the second coming very soon. I just hope you are prepared with your decision. I'm not condemning you for your choice....we all are free to make whatever choice we want to, I just don't want to see anyone make the wrong one.