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ButterflyWings

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God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:37:17 am »
As a mother of three wonderful children I raise my kids with morals human morals..They are taught to love all nature, animal,human and peoples ideas and beliefs.. When they were born I made a choice that they would be born open minded open to all ideas not forced into one or another..To base their own beliefs on what they think not others.. We taught them there may or may not be a God we do not know therefore we live openly..And so far my kids are very very loving ,open and non biased children so I think we did a awesome job!

I have seen God fearing children and it is sad to me in my experience they are fearful of everything..They miss out on the joys of learning right from wrong ..Instead they are forced to believe something up above watches them and knows their sins and they must live by his word..It is like a boogeyman who decides if they are god worthy or not..


My oldest daughter went to church with a friend to experience it for herself which is wonderful it was her choice..She came back frightened and upset..Why?? Because she was a sinner..He family may have sinned...Her Godfather was going to hell cause he was gay..Needless to say she does not want to go back nor do I blame her all I said is hun respect what they believe it may not seem right but it is their way..She smiled and said I understand mom but why would a god want to be controlling?? Why not be all loving and let us find him on our own??This is from a 13 year old..I think they are smart questions..

Anywhoo God fearing children or Moral raised children which is your way and why??

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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 11:04:06 am »
Well firstly the term "God fearing" is misrepresented here, and is often misinterpreted. Fear of God for believers is not tremble in your boots and wait to be struck by God's wrath it's speaking of reverence and awe. Hebrews 12:28-29  is a good description of this: “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our ’God is a consuming fire.’” This reverence and awe is exactly what the fear of God means for Christians. This is the motivating factor for us to surrender to the Creator of the Universe.

My daughter doesn't fear God and she has not just sympathy for people but empathy. She is 11 years old and still naive to people's motives at times but her teacher told me she is amazed at my daughters behavior towards to the children that bully her. One girl that punched my daughter in the face several months before, was sitting alone crying at lunch and my daughter went and sat by her . The teacher wrote me a note about it. When someone made of the bully for talking to my daughter she got up and threw her milk all over her. My daughter came home upset, she never expressed any hatred towards her she said...."you know what mom, I'm just gonna pray for her, I think her step dad is mean to her and I think I just need to pray".

So, I don't know what "God fearing" children you are seeing but don't categorize all of them. Children who are taught Godly morals are nothing to be sad about.

« Last Edit: August 27, 2010, 11:09:00 am by shernajwine »


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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 11:15:50 am »
You and your children are not the type I am referring to hun..It is what I have experienced where they are scared and worried...To me that is God fearing they look at god as some sort of boogeyman and That I see as wrong..To introduce God is different to force it is instilling fear in some ways..I commend you for introducing it correctly..Thanks for response hun  ;D

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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 11:31:16 am »
Children don't have to worry about going to hell...it isn't until you hit like 13...the age of understanding or the better word, I can't think of.

There is a hell...we can't lie.
The age of accountability? By inference from Numbers 14.29, a "child" is a person who is aged 19 or younger.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2010, 11:37:00 am by missijl »

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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 11:35:41 am »
There really isn't a specific age marie. I used to think along the same lines myself and it had me worried...thinking "have I reached accountability yet? Am I going to hell because I'm old enough to know better?" (In this case I was probably one of the children BW is talking about) I misunderstood what adults were saying and it had me scared.

But there is no specific age because children learn and mature at different levels, additionally this gives one the misconception that there comes a point when you have to "be good enough" to get to heaven which isn't true. You reach accountability for things when you hear, understand, and choose to act or not on that understanding and that comes at different ages for different aspects of spiritual growth and it's different for every person.


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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 12:15:18 pm »
There really isn't a specific age marie. I used to think along the same lines myself and it had me worried...thinking "have I reached accountability yet? Am I going to hell because I'm old enough to know better?" (In this case I was probably one of the children BW is talking about) I misunderstood what adults were saying and it had me scared.

But there is no specific age because children learn and mature at different levels, additionally this gives one the misconception that there comes a point when you have to "be good enough" to get to heaven which isn't true. You reach accountability for things when you hear, understand, and choose to act or not on that understanding and that comes at different ages for different aspects of spiritual growth and it's different for every person.

Excellent explanation of the age of accountability Sherna.

My son was raised with Christian morals and values.  He's married to a wonderful Christian woman and I have 3 wonderful grandsons.  They attend church, and my son is the spiritual leader of his home, and raise his sons the same as I raised him.  He works for a major Fortune 500 company, travels the world for his job, and is highly respected among his peers, in and out of the church.  Being raised a Christian didn't hurt him one bit, in fact it gave him a good foundation in how he conducts himself in the business community.  I never had a bit of trouble with him growing up.  He's honest, reliable, and dependable.  I'm so proud to be his mom.

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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 02:45:15 pm »
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As a mother of three wonderful children I raise my kids with morals human morals..They are taught to love all nature, animal,human and peoples ideas and beliefs.. When they were born I made a choice that they would be born open minded open to all ideas not forced into one or another..To base their own beliefs on what they think not others.. We taught them there may or may not be a God we do not know therefore we live openly..And so far my kids are very very loving ,open and non biased children so I think we did a awesome job!

Thank you.

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My oldest daughter went to church with a friend to experience it for herself which is wonderful it was her choice..She came back frightened and upset..Why?? Because she was a sinner..He family may have sinned...Her Godfather was going to hell cause he was gay..Needless to say she does not want to go back nor do I blame her all I said is hun respect what they believe it may not seem right but it is their way..She smiled and said I understand mom but why would a god want to be controlling?? Why not be all loving and let us find him on our own??This is from a 13 year old..I think they are smart questions..

Your daughter is vastly ahead of her time when it comes to philosophical thought. The belief in such an evil deity is ridiculous as it is primitive. Maybe you should tell her of the "unattended stove" example that Queen made a thread about just to counter any closed-minded arguments she may receive about the fictional places. To both of you-- good work.

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Anywhoo God fearing children or Moral raised children which is your way and why??

It works either way. One just has to carry a heavier and needless load. I think you know my side though  :)
« Last Edit: August 27, 2010, 02:49:22 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: God fearing children vs Moral raised children
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 02:51:59 pm »
Butterfly; my bioligacal parents did the same but they wanted me to explore ALL religions not just one. They gave me the choice. Now I married a Christian and our oldest daughter asked us if she could go to church, I was happy (I know again most people would not think I was) But the reason I was so happy was because she wanted to make her OWN choices in life regarding religion. Wether she stays with religion is her choice. As I told my husband that I will take her to any church or help her learn of any religion, as I did, if she asks at anytime in life.

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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 03:02:59 pm »
Yeah so why not attack your daughter the way you do others for believing in God. Does she know how you speak of religion?
Well yes, thank you for asking me that. Yes I am very open with my children. And is my husband with hes religion.

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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 03:04:20 pm »
And I would never attack my daughter as she does not attack others like you do when you make fun of other beliefs. And yes you know you have ANY belief!

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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 03:06:52 pm »
You could never do that to your kids...but strangers...ooh yeah, bring it on...this is the beast inside people, I am speaking about.
Not that is me sticking up for what I believe in. People with morals have feelings for all you have put down. I may not believe in everything you post but when you post something you know nothing about but rather bringing that religion down I will say something.

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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 03:17:40 pm »
Falconer thanks I am really proud of my daughter and how she is very open minded and wants to question things..She has read a few topics here and we discussed it together and she gets really excited to read new topics on it..It is a lot of fun for us lol..And I am only doing what I think is best fro my children because they deserve to decide what feel right and what feels wrong..Sometimes I think they all can out smart me LMAO..

To all others that posted thanks so kindly for sharing..I appreciate it..

Marie I will not even ask if that is aimed at me cause I do not care..

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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 03:19:43 pm »
Falconer thanks I am really proud of my daughter and how she is very open minded and wants to question things..She has read a few topics here and we discussed it together and she gets really excited to read new topics on it..It is a lot of fun for us lol..And I am only doing what I think is best fro my children because they deserve to decide what feel right and what feels wrong..Sometimes I think they all can out smart me LMAO..

To all others that posted thanks so kindly for sharing..I appreciate it..

Marie I will not even ask if that is aimed at me cause I do not care..

NO it was towards me since my child goes to church.

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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2010, 03:25:07 pm »
Falconer thanks I am really proud of my daughter and how she is very open minded and wants to question things..She has read a few topics here and we discussed it together and she gets really excited to read new topics on it..It is a lot of fun for us lol..And I am only doing what I think is best fro my children because they deserve to decide what feel right and what feels wrong..Sometimes I think they all can out smart me LMAO..

To all others that posted thanks so kindly for sharing..I appreciate it..

Marie I will not even ask if that is aimed at me cause I do not care..

NO it was towards me since my child goes to church.

Oh dear she cannot understand tolerance or letting others find their own way OMG she tends forget we are here to debate and give our opinions gee lol

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2010, 03:25:54 pm »
You could never do that to your kids...but strangers...ooh yeah, bring it on...this is the beast inside people, I am speaking about.
Not that is me sticking up for what I believe in. People with morals have feelings for all you have put down. I may not believe in everything you post but when you post something you know nothing about but rather bringing that religion down I will say something.

You want to attack God...You want to attack my religion and then run in the corner and cry...what do you expect...it comes around...leave God out of this...leave my religion out of this...leave my beliefs out of this...if you want to attack, then I can attack as well...who I am attacking is not you, it's the beast...who is doing it through you...that is what I believe.
And like  I have said once and I will say it a million times, you attacked religions first, no honey I will not be the one crying. I know who I am. I do not have to delete posts because I do not like what others say to me.

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