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queenofnines

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Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« on: September 16, 2010, 06:14:23 am »
Not the nicest title fo' sure, but there was some good convo going.

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Quote from: ljNana
Did you all know that SCIENTISTS have proved that there is a section of the brain that is not available for use to anyone who does not believe in God.  It is only used when God is showing an individual an awesome secret.  Many scientists have become Christians when they had planned to devote their entire lives to prove there was no God.  In trying to prove this, they found out instead that there is a God.  Amen!

I hate when believers try to claim science for their side.  They seem to always end up epically failing!

Okay, #1: that is ridiculous to say "there is a whole section of brain not available to use for non-believers".  The part of the brain you are referring to is due to EVOLUTION and while atheists might use it LESS, this is certainly not something for your side to brag about because that area is where primitive irrationality stems from.

#2 Having an area in your brain that is susceptible to heavenly hallucinations only proves evolution, because when you die, so does your brain.  If "the god experience" was actually LEGIT, it would NOT be an integral part of your brain, because your personality can be completely changed if you get a head injury, making you NOT believe in god, or believe in a *different* god.

#3 92+% of the National Academy of Scientists don't believe in god.  That's not just a majority -- it's an overwhelming majority.  So what are you talkin' about?

The God Helmet: This Helmet Made Me Believe!!!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnRd49L7X3s
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 06:16:43 am by queenofnines »
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 06:33:25 am »
Quote from: alivinggem
It takes more faith to not believe God exist!

I know what you're trying to say ("Look at the pretty, complex world!  I don't understand how this could have come about on its own!"), but your cliche statement is incorrect at the most basic level.

What is the proper definition of atheism?

A = "without"  Theism = "belief in god(s)"

What is the proper definition of faith?

Faith = Belief without good evidence, or belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence

So how can I have "faith" (belief) in a lack of belief (atheism)?  Also, most peoples' reasons for atheism ARE based on logical proofs and material evidence - a.k.a. the exact opposite of faith.


It certainly takes more faith to believe in a god of talking snakes, cursed fruit, global floods, man-eating fish, virgin births, talking donkeys, etc. etc.!!  Remember, faith is belief without good evidence...and you certainly don't have good evidence for any of this!
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 06:42:22 am »
Quote from: Falconer02
"Altar of science" ;D . Love it!

Hehe...yeah, I was like, Why are they using a religious term (altar) as a dirty word?  Are they not themselves a believer of religion?

I'd also suggest they get off their computer that's accessing the Internet, lest they bow to the "altar of science"!!!   ;)
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 06:51:55 am »
I guess this thread will keep going, eh, queen? :D

I also want to address the ridiculous corner on part of the brain believers supposedly have that ljNana spoke of. This is a partial copy of my own post about it from a thread long ago (in a faraway part of the galaxy.... ;D). Sorry, long night at work. Anyway, here it is:

It's usually called the "God Spot" or "God Module" and is in the frontal lobes of the cortex and is also, to some extent, in deeper areas of the brain. This has been studied for at least 20 years now. There was also a fairly recent experiment/study conducted by a large panel of scientists in which they stimulated the temporal lobes (God Spot) with a rotating magnetic field. The result? It was found they could artificially create the experience of religious feelings in 80% of volunteers.

Our brains have evolved to improve our chances of survival and much of that is sensitivity to believing almost anything if there is a basis for doing so. Whether you are religous or atheist, we all use the same area of our brains to process/solve 'moral' dilemnas. If you believe in God, or any other religious icon, you will base your thoughts and actions by those beliefs. If you are atheist or agnostic, you will base it on the 'moral compass' you have acquired through experiences and conditioning.


Hmm, I don't think this is 'proof' of God, sorry.
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 08:06:07 am »
 Well, Atleast she didn't delete it!! Lol!  ;D
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 09:21:58 am »
Well, Atleast she didn't delete it!! Lol!  ;D

Very true, but probably because that option was taken away by admin recently. ;) Otherwise it would most likely be floating out in cyberspace.
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2010, 09:36:05 am »
Well, Atleast she didn't delete it!! Lol!  ;D

Very true, but probably because that option was taken away by admin recently. ;) Otherwise it would most likely be floating out in cyberspace.

Oh, I didn't know that option was taken away! Thats good, because a LOT of people were losing out on that whole ordeal. Awesome   :thumbsup:

*Sorry to take this off topic!!*   ;)
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 10:27:49 am »
Maybe because it's  rude, childish, and creates a bunch of unneccessary drama?

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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 10:33:38 am »
Just because I love And believe in God doesn't me a retard, but it sure does make you sound like the retard here.

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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 10:50:38 am »
Maybe because it's  rude, childish, and creates a bunch of unneccessary drama?

Actually, it's because now that marieelissa can't delete ENTIRE threads that she's started, she's chosen to lock them just a day or two after she's started them.  Buyer beware!
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 11:05:32 am »
Hopefully she realized how ignorant her title was and decided to lock it. But I know thats just the part of me wishing she would think before typing.

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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2010, 11:55:09 am »
Hopefully she realized how ignorant her title was and decided to lock it.

Don't count on it.  Several other recent threads of hers have been locked as well.
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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2010, 12:41:56 pm »
You were saying that there was no evidence that anything the bible exists- well there is no evidence that there is wind either- you can't see it but, you know it is there, and you feel it- we all use faith all the time in every day life- you put your faith in something you can't see, and is not seen by the senses- think about it.

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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2010, 01:35:11 pm »
It was locked about 5 min after I posted on it so apparently she didn't want to hear the truth? Locking threads wont change peoples minds when it comes to their own beliefs Marie that's just proving what people are saying about you being childish.  I can't honestly say I am sad that I cant respond to her nonsense though.

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Re: Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 02:15:39 pm »
There she,(marieelissa) goes again.... oh geez........
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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