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amyrouse

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2010, 10:55:25 am »
The first wedding my daughter attended was a gay commitment ceremony.  The couple had been together for 11 years, and they found a pastor willing to do the ceremony.  They were chased out of their town, though, and had to go two towns over to be able to have it done.



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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2010, 11:23:35 am »
wow that is interesting  :D I have cousins who are gay but they are not married, they just have their boyfriends lol



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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2010, 08:21:47 pm »
Personally I don't agree with it. I don't have a problem with gays. I just don't approve of their lifestyle. I'm sorry, but I think it is wrong.

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2010, 08:34:02 pm »
im all for gay marriage live your life, its your life and i think it's great that people are doing what they really want to do instead of doing what others think is right.  forget others and who cares if others don't approve they don't need to who are they to say anything about the way some live their lives....  were not in the 40's anymore far from it so do what makes you happy and im happy for you :) xoxo

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2010, 11:22:25 pm »
im all for gay marriage live your life, its your life and i think it's great that people are doing what they really want to do instead of doing what others think is right.  forget others and who cares if others don't approve they don't need to who are they to say anything about the way some live their lives....  were not in the 40's anymore far from it so do what makes you happy and im happy for you :) xoxo

Exactly... no one needs approval from anyone else when living their life.   :thumbsup:



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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 05:46:08 am »
Personally I don't agree with it. I don't have a problem with gays. I just don't approve of their lifestyle. I'm sorry, but I think it is wrong.

Hmm, oxymoron here or what? Their 'lifestyle' is what makes them gay, so how do you disconnect the two?
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mattymatt79

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 07:03:31 am »
Here's the thing, people who are pro-gay marriage are going about it all wrong. Instead of trying to get gay marriage approved, what needs to happen is have the government out of our decision to marry alltogether. I shouldn't have had to gone and got a license to get married to my now wife and pay a fee for it.

People if they want to support gay marriage would catch much more fly's if they would support a less government society of having the government out of our lives. Why should some donkey government official say who I could or couldn't marry.

I don't like the concept of gay marriage, but I'm not opposed to it being called something else, marriage in it's truest sence of the word is the promotion of a woman to motherhood. Something that obviously can not happen. Also, another huge stumbling block for people who are pro-gay marriage by trying to get laws changed, it opens up for potential legal battles that could really hurt more people than it's supposed to help. A big argument, say it's now a legal act, gay's all over America are allowed to marry, by creating such law, you're now forcing certain religious sects to marry even if they disagree with your views, say the Catholic church. You've now created a legal battle as opposed to a unification of two people.

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 08:32:40 am »
mattymatt79:
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Also, another huge stumbling block for people who are pro-gay marriage by trying to get laws changed, it opens up for potential legal battles that could really hurt more people than it's supposed to help. A big argument, say it's now a legal act, gay's all over America are allowed to marry, by creating such law, you're now forcing certain religious sects to marry even if they disagree with your views, say the Catholic church. You've now created a legal battle as opposed to a unification of two people.

I am confused by this portion of your post. Are you implying that any church, not specifically the catholic, would be forced to allow/recognize the marriage of a gay couple? It is my understanding, and I could be dead wrong here, that each denomination and church therein has it's own set of guidelines and can refuse to marry any couple that does not meet or comply with it's guidelines. For instance, a Jewish man and a Catholic woman would NOT be 'allowed' to marry within either of their own places of worship because of secular guidelines and hierarchy. How would passing gay marriage into law 'force' any church into marrying them? I just don't see that as a possibilty unless that is NOT what you meant.
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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 08:36:20 am »
My thought is and I might be wrong but from what I was reading is that this would turn a nonsecular thing into a forced secular thing.

Example forcing a Catholic church to marry a gay couple due to title ix agreements and not doing so would be discrimination.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 09:08:38 am »
My thought is and I might be wrong but from what I was reading is that this would turn a nonsecular thing into a forced secular thing.

Example forcing a Catholic church to marry a gay couple due to title ix agreements and not doing so would be discrimination.

Hmm, I honestly do not know about that. I am 100% in favor of gay marriage, but I am NOT in favor of something that would force every religion and/or church to 'comply' with an across the board acceptance.

I realize that last statement might shock quite a few of you on here, but it is said with complete sincerity and honesty. ;)
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mattymatt79

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 09:18:02 am »
This all goes back to my original point. Get government out of it all together and well, more people would have MORE personal liberties.

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2010, 11:40:12 am »
Gay marriage is just another civil rights issue. Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle choice;" it is determined by genetics, just as race is! I say, let them marry.

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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2010, 12:06:12 pm »
I am NOT in favor of something that would force every religion and/or church to 'comply' with an across the board acceptance.

Not a shock to me... exactly what I would have expected you to say, Jordandog.  ;)

I do agree somewhat with mattymatt79, though.  I've always believed that anyone who gets married by a JOP or other civil servant is a member of a civil union, and marriage is a religious union.  If the government wants to recognize any union/marriage, it should recognize all.  By denying same-sex couples the same rights and heterosexual couples, it seems similar to me to establishing a religious view rather than establishing justice, ensuring domestic tranquility, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty (all words used in the Constitution), especially since we're discussing two consenting adults here.



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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2010, 04:17:03 pm »
 what is this  :bs: means? hmmm i dont wanna say it



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Re: Gay Marriage
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2010, 05:29:03 pm »
Let me get this straight.  You mean FORCE all religions to accept gay marriage, and the Clergy has to conform to it like taxes?

I'd turn in my credentials if it ever came to that.

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