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marieelissa

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« on: November 04, 2010, 02:18:38 am »
What do you think of the programs like Food Stamps, Wic, Section 8...

You think they are good or bad?

People can't understand why I can live off the government...Since I am young, they think it's "disgusting" ~ I have no choice. I have been labeled disabled due to my mental illness.

I get food stamps probably for the rest of my life and a check from the government (well actually I collect disability, I worked a little... so). I think the programs are good and you know america, they want everyone to be kept alive.

Suicide is against the law...could you imagine if these programs weren't in place...

I also get free health care...Some things aren't free, like root canals and such...but eye exams, doctor visits, teeth cleanings and are.

I am happy there are programs for people who can't do anything in life...but what are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 05:11:05 am »
Programs like the above mentioned do not bother me, like you said they are their to help. But you have to understand alot of frustration comes due to the fact that some people work a full time job and do not have dental, some people busted their *bleep*'s for many years and cannot get on disability. Veterans of the war have to jump through hoops and play tricks to get approved. So I do not think its so much you they have a problem with hon, its the government in a whole on this one.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 05:47:32 am »
I have an issue with the people who abuse the system.

I have one "friend" who is working her full time job, and hasn't reported it, so she's getting paid $12 an hour, getting around $400 a month in food stamps, getting WIC, Housing Assistance, daycare assistance, and collecting SSI on her eldest son, plus getting child support from her youngest son's father.  She went to a seminar a few months ago about gastric bypass surgery because she found out that she could get it covered by Medicaid!  She's a single mom, but she's abusing the system...its ridiculous!

In the meantime, while she's receiving this...my husband and I are in income based housing where we've complained about the refrigerator at least four times because its freezing our food, our rent is half of what he brings home a month, and we get less than $200 a month in food stamps... and my "friend" makes a higher hourly wage than my husband does!  I've always been really strict, though.  I've told my husband that as long as we're receiving any type of assistance, that we do not need things like cable television, new electronics (we've bought everything used, through a garage sale, or on sale cheap), Cadillac's, or sushi because if we can afford those things, we don't need assistance and there is always someone else that does.  I've seen too many people on public assistance with bling up the yin yang, driving fancy brand spankin' new vehicles, with their flat screen plasma tv's, blue ray players, wii's, ps3's, and dish network dishes outside of their low income housing.  We don't even have a converter box for our garage sale television!  We watch movies on an old beat up dvd player I bought before we even met for $40!

I get upset about the people who abuse the system, laugh about it, and complain about how broke they are, when there are weeks when my husband and I can't afford to buy toilet paper!  I think the programs are great things to have for people who need assistance, but I also think there are too many who abuse the system, which makes it hard for the rest of us who genuinely need a helping hand.  I am grateful for every penny we get... and I think more people should be grateful as well, instead of expecting a hand out.

So, I guess my answer to your question is... the programs are good; many of the recipients aren't.



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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 06:07:54 am »
What do you think of the programs like Food Stamps, Wic, Section 8...

I think they are needed, but ONLY for the people who truly qualify.  Like Amy and many others will chime in to say, too many people abuse the system.  What is the worst is the people who pop out kid after kid to take advantage of the system.  That is beyond sick; innocent lives shouldn't have to be brought into misery just so the dumbass parent can get a cheap buck.

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you know america, they want everyone to be kept alive.

In a way it's why we're better than other countries (like your "100 people" video said, so many others live in poverty); however, too many rotten apples take advantage of the system and what's going to end up happening is we're going to run out of resources because we've kept too many stupid, useless people alive.  Natural selection would take care of the ones who are not cut out for this life, but America is interfering with that process, encouraging burdens on society.

I think the people who are mentally capable enough but disabled or whatever should still try their best to contribute something to society.  I don't want to pay for your *bleep* if you're just going to sit on your *bleep*!

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Suicide is against the law...could you imagine if these programs weren't in place...

Suicide is not against the law if you do it right.   ::)  If these programs weren't in place, like I said, natural selection would take care of the ones who are not cut out physically and/or mentally for this life.  That might sound horrible to you, but we would be left with more quality citizens.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: Programs
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 06:50:28 am »
I think that some people do need it, however, there are lots that do take advantage of it.  You do need it and that is great it is there for you to use.  My parents are retired, well my dad has his own business however does not make very much at it, times are tough and I will admit they are on food stamps.  They are barley making ends meet with keeping the house and such.  So I feel that it is a good program as long as people do not abuse it.  Just wanted to share.

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