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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2011, 07:13:30 am »
And who are you to think you the moral authority to think one should be condemned to Hell? You should love the sinner and hate the sin and should always try to preach the Gospels; but no where in that gives you the authority nor responsibility to declare where someones soul is to spend eternity. That is His power and His alone.

Queenofnines; as I posted earlier, science and christinaity can co-exist for the reason alone that I can have faith in knowing that God allowed for things to happen. You make a point about Adam and Eve, but who's to say that in God's all knowing power and ability that he couldn't protect them from the dangers of what incest can have? Is it technically incest, sure, but you're taking out the faith behind it.



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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2011, 07:23:52 am »
A lot of anger flying around this thread regarding this topic >:(

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2011, 09:11:05 am »
I was wondering when you would show up cuppycake.  You never miss an opportunity to verbally "dump' on Christians just like qon.

This is "Off Topic", not "Debate and Discuss", where both of you usually verbally spew your anti Christian rhetoric.  Since I no longer go in there, you have made it a point to follow me around this forum just to let out your hate and discontent.  That's pretty pathetic. You won't change my mind, and you know it, so your postings are nothing more than spitefulness and attacks.  What miserable lives you must lead.  Sad :(

I will not debate God or His Word with those who have no belief in either.  However, answering a fool in their folly is something the Bible says a Christian has a right to do at various times.  Who's the deluded?  Just keep on burying your head in the sand and say to yourself over and over....there is no God, there is no God.  Guess what?

EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS............LOL

Follow me around all you want as I know you have nothing better to do.  However, I do.....bye

You really are quite funny and such a joke! I don't have say anything you make a fool of your self just fine!

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2011, 07:37:31 pm »
And who are you to think you the moral authority to think one should be condemned to Hell? You should love the sinner and hate the sin and should always try to preach the Gospels; but no where in that gives you the authority nor responsibility to declare where someones soul is to spend eternity. That is His power and His alone.

Queenofnines; as I posted earlier, science and christinaity can co-exist for the reason alone that I can have faith in knowing that God allowed for things to happen. You make a point about Adam and Eve, but who's to say that in God's all knowing power and ability that he couldn't protect them from the dangers of what incest can have? Is it technically incest, sure, but you're taking out the faith behind it.

Um mattymat, as far as moral authority....uh yes, I do have every right to denounce reprobate sin (Ministry) when it's paramount, and to warn of it's consequences.  The Bible clearly says that if certain things are said or done.....there is nothing but hell to look forward to. I will no longer give place to the enemy and his foolish rantings against God and His people.  You need to go back and read all qon's previous posts (mine also) before reprimanding anyone.  As far as loving the sinner, I do....but not to a confessed reprobate railing against God and His redeemed. There is a limit.  Even with God.  She has confessed to being a Christian once and then turning her back on God because he doesn't exist and He's a liar. That kind of talk will land you in hell......that's Bible!  I do preach the gospel.....the WHOLE gospel.  I'm not some mamby pamby preacher.  Never have been, and never will be.  Behold the goodness and the severity of God.  God is love, but He also warns those against blasphemy and it's end results.

Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel:  therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.  When I say unto the wicked, thou shalt surely die: and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Yet, if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou has delivered thy soul.  Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Nevertheless, if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also, thou has delivered they soul.  Ezekiel 3:17-21

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You really are quite funny and such a joke! I don't have say anything you make a fool of your self just fine!

Really cuppycake??    The Bible says:  "The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God.  They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good".  Psalms 14:1

And:  "The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God,  Corrupt are they and have done abominable iniquity:  There is none that doeth good.  Psalms 53:1

So Biblically who's the fool?  However, I'd rather be a fanatic for Jesus, than a champion for the devil.....lol
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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2011, 10:38:46 pm »
Personally, I think incest is repulsive. You aren't supposed to be intimate in those ways with family members. However, I think it's only considered incest up to a certain point in family ties. Either way, I won't be marrying my cousin, or any other relative.
As far as the topic of the Bible (and subsequently, religion) goes, I won't touch on that topic. It's highly controversial, and everyone has their own thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Which we are all entitled to, but it tends to spark wars, which can easily be avoided if we all just agree to disagree, believe what we choose, and let others do the same. We all have free will, we all have our own minds, and we all make our own decisions how we see fit.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2011, 11:27:41 pm »
Personally, I think incest is repulsive. You aren't supposed to be intimate in those ways with family members. However, I think it's only considered incest up to a certain point in family ties. Either way, I won't be marrying my cousin, or any other relative.
As far as the topic of the Bible (and subsequently, religion) goes, I won't touch on that topic. It's highly controversial, and everyone has their own thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Which we are all entitled to, but it tends to spark wars, which can easily be avoided if we all just agree to disagree, believe what we choose, and let others do the same. We all have free will, we all have our own minds, and we all make our own decisions how we see fit.

Oh that's all well and good, if it works.  However, Christians are targeted on here all the time (see Debate and Discuss).  Some Christians won't go in there anymore because of being flamed, called names, and cussed at.  Only because we claim we are Christians.  We are accused of being intolerant, when actually it's the other way around. 

When I'm answering a person's Biblical question to help them out (read this thread), and then get flaming and derogatory remarks about Christians/Christianity/God/Bible from those who just want to start trouble, then it's time to say something.  I didn't start this, but I'll finish it.  I'll stand up for the Lord and my Faith anytime and anywhere.  If they think they can shut me up?  lol

Besides, qon, cuppycake, and a few others never disappoint to provide such great study topics for my Bible Study group at church.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 12:30:38 am »
Personally, I think incest is repulsive. You aren't supposed to be intimate in those ways with family members. However, I think it's only considered incest up to a certain point in family ties. Either way, I won't be marrying my cousin, or any other relative.
As far as the topic of the Bible (and subsequently, religion) goes, I won't touch on that topic. It's highly controversial, and everyone has their own thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Which we are all entitled to, but it tends to spark wars, which can easily be avoided if we all just agree to disagree, believe what we choose, and let others do the same. We all have free will, we all have our own minds, and we all make our own decisions how we see fit.

Oh that's all well and good, if it works.  However, Christians are targeted on here all the time (see Debate and Discuss).  Some Christians won't go in there anymore because of being flamed, called names, and cussed at.  Only because we claim we are Christians.  We are accused of being intolerant, when actually it's the other way around. 

When I'm answering a person's Biblical question to help them out (read this thread), and then get flaming and derogatory remarks about Christians/Christianity/God/Bible from those who just want to start trouble, then it's time to say something.  I didn't start this, but I'll finish it.  I'll stand up for the Lord and my Faith anytime and anywhere.  If they think they can shut me up?  lol

Besides, qon, cuppycake, and a few others never disappoint to provide such great study topics for my Bible Study group at church.


You seem to be forgetting that Christians are NOT the only ones targeted. Everyone is a target, as we are all different and have varying thoughts/views/beliefs/opinions etc. Maybe here, on FC, Christians seem to be targeted but Christians in turn do their fair share of the targeting. Which you have done simply by quoting my post and starting your response with "Oh that's all well and good, if it works." And who are you to pick me out and direct your comments towards when I said nothing to offend Christians, or any other faith. Did I call you names? No. Did I verbally bash Christianity? No. Did I talk down on any one? No. Did I bad mouth any one's religion? No. And No, I didn't do anything to 'start trouble'. So before you go around speaking of people 'targeting' you for being a Christian, check your own actions and be sure that you are not a hypocrite in the fact that you are doing just as you claim to be a victim of... Targeting people who are not as you.
And lastly, I never claimed to not be a Christian and I never claimed to be a Christian.
And by the way (this is for any and all, not just you) Any one can claim to be a Christian. But going to church and acting Godly on Sundays (and for some, Wednesdays as well) doesn't make you a Christian any more than quacking makes you a duck.
Take this for what you will, as I can only imagine how wrong you will receive my comments. Have a nice day. (:

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 07:45:10 am »
Love the sinner hate the sin. Love one as you love yourself.

Pointing out the splinter in ones eye without noticing the log in your own.

Again, you do not have the moral authority to condemn one to hell.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 12:05:26 pm »
I heard once that nobody is more distantly related from one another than fiftieth cousins or so.  I don't remember where I heard this though so I don't know if it's actually true or not.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 12:26:33 pm »
I was sitting reading the bible one night I read all the way through Noah and the Arc. Well In the days that God made Adam and Eve, he made other people, animals, day night, all life right? Well he found that the world was corrupt in the days of Noah and his family so he found favor in Noah and had the ark animals and Noah his wife, his sons and their wifes. My question is what happened when God only left these people isn't there incest in order to repopulate the world? Doesn't that mean that we are all related and descendents from Noah? So are we marrying our kin? I don't mean to offend anybody just a few questions I though would be good to clarify.  :angel12:

When lot's wife was made into salt when she glanced at Sodom and Gomorah, Lot was left with his 2 daughters, the two daughters said  "let us lay with our father to populate the world again".. 

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 12:40:48 pm »
And who are you to think you the moral authority to think one should be condemned to Hell? You should love the sinner and hate the sin and should always try to preach the Gospels; but no where in that gives you the authority nor responsibility to declare where someones soul is to spend eternity. That is His power and His alone.

Queenofnines; as I posted earlier, science and christinaity can co-exist for the reason alone that I can have faith in knowing that God allowed for things to happen. You make a point about Adam and Eve, but who's to say that in God's all knowing power and ability that he couldn't protect them from the dangers of what incest can have? Is it technically incest, sure, but you're taking out the faith behind it.

Um mattymat, as far as moral authority....uh yes, I do have every right to denounce reprobate sin (Ministry) when it's paramount, and to warn of it's consequences.  The Bible clearly says that if certain things are said or done.....there is nothing but hell to look forward to. I will no longer give place to the enemy and his foolish rantings against God and His people.  You need to go back and read all qon's previous posts (mine also) before reprimanding anyone.  As far as loving the sinner, I do....but not to a confessed reprobate railing against God and His redeemed. There is a limit.  Even with God.  She has confessed to being a Christian once and then turning her back on God because he doesn't exist and He's a liar. That kind of talk will land you in hell......that's Bible!  I do preach the gospel.....the WHOLE gospel.  I'm not some mamby pamby preacher.  Never have been, and never will be.  Behold the goodness and the severity of God.  God is love, but He also warns those against blasphemy and it's end results.

Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel:  therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.  When I say unto the wicked, thou shalt surely die: and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Yet, if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou has delivered thy soul.  Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Nevertheless, if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also, thou has delivered they soul.  Ezekiel 3:17-21

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You really are quite funny and such a joke! I don't have say anything you make a fool of your self just fine!

Really cuppycake??    The Bible says:  "The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God.  They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good".  Psalms 14:1

And:  "The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God,  Corrupt are they and have done abominable iniquity:  There is none that doeth good.  Psalms 53:1

So Biblically who's the fool?  However, I'd rather be a fanatic for Jesus, than a champion for the devil.....lol
As if I care what the bible says lmao! "god" is just dog spelled backwards as far as I am concerned. And your bible babble is just a waste of time.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 06:09:59 pm »

At no point in the Bible does it say god made a new batch of people...  Noah and his sister...er, "wife"...were still direct descendants of Adam and Eve; even if they are many generations removed, it is STILL the same set of DNA we are dealing with for all people that existed back then because they all came from just 2 people.  Eve herself came from Adam, so god himself committed incest by taking part of Adam to make Eve.  So every act of sex IS incest to this day if you believe the Bible; the "flood" only reinforces that point.

Okay in the Book of Generations depending on what bible you ar reading it does mention that there are other people besides Adam and Eve. Then he made a garden that pertty much was like ruling everything he had Adam name the animals and the Woman.

Another questions is that if we are all related why is it so hard to find the same blood type and cells for transfusions and organ repair?

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 06:15:25 pm »
Personally, I think incest is repulsive. You aren't supposed to be intimate in those ways with family members. However, I think it's only considered incest up to a certain point in family ties. Either way, I won't be marrying my cousin, or any other relative.
As far as the topic of the Bible (and subsequently, religion) goes, I won't touch on that topic. It's highly controversial, and everyone has their own thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Which we are all entitled to, but it tends to spark wars, which can easily be avoided if we all just agree to disagree, believe what we choose, and let others do the same. We all have free will, we all have our own minds, and we all make our own decisions how we see fit.

Oh that's all well and good, if it works.  However, Christians are targeted on here all the time (see Debate and Discuss).  Some Christians won't go in there anymore because of being flamed, called names, and cussed at.  Only because we claim we are Christians.  We are accused of being intolerant, when actually it's the other way around.  

When I'm answering a person's Biblical question to help them out (read this thread), and then get flaming and derogatory remarks about Christians/Christianity/God/Bible from those who just want to start trouble, then it's time to say something.  I didn't start this, but I'll finish it.  I'll stand up for the Lord and my Faith anytime and anywhere. If they think they can shut me up?  lol

Besides, qon, cuppycake, and a few others never disappoint to provide such great study topics for my Bible Study group at church.


You seem to be forgetting that Christians are NOT the only ones targeted. Everyone is a target, as we are all different and have varying thoughts/views/beliefs/opinions etc. Maybe here, on FC, Christians seem to be targeted but Christians in turn do their fair share of the targeting. Which you have done simply by quoting my post and starting your response with "Oh that's all well and good, if it works." And who are you to pick me out and direct your comments towards when I said nothing to offend Christians, or any other faith. Did I call you names? No. Did I verbally bash Christianity? No. Did I talk down on any one? No. Did I bad mouth any one's religion? No. And No, I didn't do anything to 'start trouble'. So before you go around speaking of people 'targeting' you for being a Christian, check your own actions and be sure that you are not a hypocrite in the fact that you are doing just as you claim to be a victim of... Targeting people who are not as you.
And lastly, I never claimed to not be a Christian and I never claimed to be a Christian.
And by the way (this is for any and all, not just you) Any one can claim to be a Christian. But going to church and acting Godly on Sundays (and for some, Wednesdays as well) doesn't make you a Christian any more than quacking makes you a duck.
Take this for what you will, as I can only imagine how wrong you will receive my comments. Have a nice day. (:

For one thing shadetree, you are wrong.  I was not targeting you for anything.  It was just an explanation (for whomever is reading this thread), and was not meant to single you (or your post) out for anything.  If you took it as a personal affront, then I'm sorry.  It was not meant to be.  I live my Christianity every second of my life. Sundays and Weds., are just another day to me, except it's a day to "gather" with others of like precious faith as a family.

Accept my apology as nothing was aimed at you personal or otherwise.  However, you do not have many posts and that tells me that you must be fairly new, or you don't frequent the forum often.  cuppycake and qon (among others) are notorious for singling out Christians and flaming them on this forum.  Please take my suggestion and go read all of our posts in "Debate and Discuss".....unless they have deleted their posts.

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 06:34:16 pm »
that's a good question i never that about that. i guess there could have been. but where ever they landed after the flood, did it mention about what was there?
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No they didn't mention where they landed but it shouldn't matter if it was indeed a global flood and only left Noah, family, and animals should it?

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Re: What do you think of Incest and the Bible?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 06:45:19 pm »
A lot of anger flying around this thread regarding this topic >:(

Yes. I just had simple questions, I didn't want all this anger.  :-[ But that is what happens eventually when there is a forum of some kind.  :(

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