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Willie353

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2011, 12:07:54 pm »
I dont believe in abortion. With our last baby the dr told my wife to have one or she might die. My wife told the Dr that if she lived she lived and if she died she would die having the baby. I support her in this

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 12:12:28 pm »
i have to say that i believe in choice. If you don't want the child and don't feel you are ready for it, then don't have it. Why bring a child into the world when you can't support it or even put it through the adoption process. I don't believe that baby is living until it is out of the mother's stomach.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2011, 12:23:17 pm »
not for me ever :angry7:

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 12:32:19 pm »
i have to say that i believe in choice. If you don't want the child and don't feel you are ready for it, then don't have it. Why bring a child into the world when you can't support it or even put it through the adoption process. I don't believe that baby is living until it is out of the mother's stomach.

How is a baby not living till it is born? It spends 9 months in there growing, but it is still alive. It kicks and punches and even has hiccups while still in the womb. It has a heartbeat when it is 5 weeks old. Things that are not alive do not have heartbeats.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 01:18:36 pm »
I agree with MrsBlueSmith. Pro-life for myself but Pro-choice for everyone else. There are always circumstances that will warrant it (i.e. danger to the mother's life) so I can't see making it illegal. Rape I'm actually on the fence about, I would never tell a woman that she would have to have the baby but for myself.....I think that I probably would have the baby (as long as I could be sure that I would never have to see the "sperm donor" again). As a form of birth control I find it a poor choice but again because of other potential circumstances I am not willing to support legislation to make it illegal.

I read Handle with Care. It gave me a lot to think about and made me question whether or not I would abort a baby that had a disability. I came to the conclusion that it would depend on the quality of life. With osteogenesis imperfecta as in the book I would be talking to people that had it or to families that had loved ones with it as I have never broken a bone and have no frame of reference for what it would be like to break bones hundreds of times in the course of my life. I do not think that I would abort however, I think that I would try to minimize broken bones and there are plenty of things to do without playing football or something equally dangerous to someone with OI. Quality of life I wouldn't necessarily consider to be horrendous. With something like Tay-Sachs which is almost always fatal (infantile and juvenile onset fatal, adult onset severely limiting) with the child being okay for the first 6 months or so and then dying a slow, scary (going blind, deaf etc as their bodies deteriorate) death over the course of the next few years....I could not argue for quality of life in this case and would choose to abort.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2011, 06:24:11 pm »
it's wrong, your killing a innocent baby who did nothing wrong. once the egg and sperm get together, a life is formed.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2011, 03:01:01 pm »
Mine are it's up to the person.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2011, 04:38:06 pm »
I don't think there is much point to a topic like this.  It is clear that both sides know both arguments in detail already.  People are entitles to their opinions, and with a topic like this, nothing will get accomplished because both sides are so opinionated.

For instance, I do not support abortion decisions in most examples, and there is little chance of someone changing my view on it.  I completely understand why someone would feel differently than I do on this, but I don't think any argument will change their view either, even if I said that more abortions are performed per years than there were soldier casualties in BOTH World Wars combined (which is a fact BTW).

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2011, 08:51:34 pm »
I'm completely for it.  I don't see why people see getting rid of a fetus is considered killing when there isn't even a heart.  A fetus isn't alive til about the 23rd week, so if it's before it's fine.  Most doctors won't perform abortions when the fetus is that old anyways.  It should always be the woman's choice.  Even if there is a father, it shouldn't be up to him.  He can have a say but the woman should have the last word because the fetus is inside of her not him. 

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 08:03:55 am »
In God's eyes, abortion is murder, for life begins in he womb.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2011, 10:26:36 am »
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In God's eyes, abortion is murder, for life begins in he womb.

So it's easy to conclude miscarriages are your god's way of saying "Sometime's it's okay!" then.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 11:44:22 am »
Perhaps, then, when a woman dies giving birth to a child, the infant should then be tried with manslaughter.

Honestly, the "abortion is murder" viewpoint makes me queasy when you consider the fact that a fetus until birth depends upon a mother's body (as in utilizing the nutrients and etc a woman takes in) for its development.  To deny a woman a choice as to whether or not they allow something that could be considered akin to a parasite grow inside her until it breaks free a la Alien is wrong on all levels.  Everyone is concerned with the fetus's right to life and they seem to forget the woman's.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 02:50:55 pm »
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Honestly, the "abortion is murder" viewpoint makes me queasy when you consider the fact that a fetus until birth depends upon a mother's body (as in utilizing the nutrients and etc a woman takes in) for its development.  To deny a woman a choice as to whether or not they allow something that could be considered akin to a parasite grow inside her until it breaks free a la Alien is wrong on all levels.  Everyone is concerned with the fetus's right to life and they seem to forget the woman's.

Exactly. The narrow-minded pro-lifer's always think the small batch of cells is ultimately this little innocent angel and that the pregnant woman is the spawn of evil for even thinking of doing such a thing. People need to understand that everyone is pro-life. But they can also be pro-choice ontop of that. The problem is the variables within that woman's life that cause her to make such a choice. Her decision should be met with reason and understanding of her situation, not stupid hostility and naive assumptions about the choice she will make.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 09:20:27 pm »
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Honestly, the "abortion is murder" viewpoint makes me queasy when you consider the fact that a fetus until birth depends upon a mother's body (as in utilizing the nutrients and etc a woman takes in) for its development.  To deny a woman a choice as to whether or not they allow something that could be considered akin to a parasite grow inside her until it breaks free a la Alien is wrong on all levels.  Everyone is concerned with the fetus's right to life and they seem to forget the woman's.

Exactly. The narrow-minded pro-lifer's always think the small batch of cells is ultimately this little innocent angel and that the pregnant woman is the spawn of evil for even thinking of doing such a thing. People need to understand that everyone is pro-life. But they can also be pro-choice ontop of that. The problem is the variables within that woman's life that cause her to make such a choice. Her decision should be met with reason and understanding of her situation, not stupid hostility and naive assumptions about the choice she will make.

I'd even go a step further and say that it is no one's business except for the individual woman, her doctor, and loosely her partner's.



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Re: Abortion
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 09:53:38 pm »
I'am against abortion. :angry7:

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