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Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« on: February 13, 2011, 11:31:30 am »
Several news cameras have shown this video today where it looks like there is a mysterious ghost horse and rider in it.  Some say it's a lens flare, others are saying that it's the fourth horse of the apocalypse, and others say they just don't know what it is.  What is your opinion?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41400327#41400327

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v35p2XLPWU

Revelation 6:8 says, " And I (John) looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."  Revelation 6 is where the Lamb opens the first six seals.  The seventh seal is opened in the eighth chapter.

The Expositor's Bible Commentary says this about the color of the fourth horse: "'Pale' (chloros) denotes a yellowish green, the light green of a plant, or the paleness of a sick person in contrast to a healthy appearance."





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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 12:01:12 pm »
While I agree the footage is creepy, I can see the similarity.  However, I can see it being a lens flare, a reflection of the fires in the background...there are too many plausible explanations for it.  Thank you for sharing this, though, since I will most likely be watching it multiple times!



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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 07:27:25 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXLfe6y5aTo

New link. Old one is down for utube.

It's fake. Lens reflections always do weird things like this (the fire is doing it). I'd know, since I've seen crap like this before first hand with cameras I've used. I've seen ghost orbs at night. I've gotten the transporter effect from star trek while getting the reflection of the sun reflecting off of water. Certain cameras will do some cool stuff with certain types of light.

Notice how the camera moves. When the camera pans more to the right and goes slightly faster, the horseman speeds up. When the camera rises, so does the green horseman. With the shallow convex shape of most camera lenses, it would probably even happen if the camera was barely even moving considering the distance of the flames. If people took more photos or shot videos from different angles of it and it all matched up, they might have something. But that's never the case. 110% fake.

Besides, it looks like the horseman is riding facing backwards on the back of the horse rather than where the saddle should be. That's one mentally challenged horseman!

Edit: I also like how we get an advertisment before the msnbc vid. Superstition sells! lol

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Revelation 6:8 says, " And I (John) looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."  Revelation 6 is where the Lamb opens the first six seals.  The seventh seal is opened in the eighth chapter.

The Expositor's Bible Commentary says this about the color of the fourth horse: "'Pale' (chloros) denotes a yellowish green, the light green of a plant, or the paleness of a sick person in contrast to a healthy appearance."


« Last Edit: February 13, 2011, 07:40:46 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 11:23:04 pm »
Just watched the video of that. Thats creepy and crazy all at the same time!!!

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 06:19:36 am »

Notice how the camera moves. When the camera pans more to the right and goes slightly faster, the horseman speeds up. When the camera rises, so does the green horseman. With the shallow convex shape of most camera lenses, it would probably even happen if the camera was barely even moving considering the distance of the flames. If people took more photos or shot videos from different angles of it and it all matched up, they might have something. But that's never the case. 110% fake.

I agree that it's fake.  At 10:14, you can see the camera lifting up, and just barely see the "horseman" shape lifting as well, before you see the part of the newscast where it's highly visible.

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2011, 11:57:11 am »
Falconer, I suppose you won't be open to this possibility, but Christians know that God can fulfill prophecy anytime and how He wants to do it.  Did you ever consider the chance that God can use a flare of lens (reflected, refracted, ...) to bring things to pass that are in the Book of Revelation?  Who really knows what that was exactly, except for God Himself?  So, I wouldn't totally close the door to "Busted."

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 02:24:08 pm »
I would like to add, however, that it can't be the fourth horse of the apocalypse, because they don't come until after the Rapture.  The first horse is white and is Jesus and He hasn't come yet.

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 04:26:39 pm »
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Falconer, I suppose you won't be open to this possibility, but Christians know that God can fulfill prophecy anytime and how He wants to do it.  Did you ever consider the chance that God can use a flare of lens (reflected, refracted, ...) to bring things to pass that are in the Book of Revelation?  Who really knows what that was exactly, except for God Himself?  So, I wouldn't totally close the door to "Busted."

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I would like to add, however, that it can't be the fourth horse of the apocalypse, because they don't come until after the Rapture.  The first horse is white and is Jesus and He hasn't come yet.

Did you ever consider the chance that Jesus can appear on a Tortilla chip?
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/10166

This is pretty much parallel with what you're presenting as a work-around. It's reflection from the fire and the color is due to spectral light (lens flare discoloration).

That's really all there is to it. It looks vaguely like some goofball horseback rider. I could doctor up something that would look ridiculously more authentic in After Effects. Don't be a bad guy from Scooby Doo-- stop spreading superstition.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 04:37:32 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 06:39:17 pm »
I'm not spreading superstition.  I asked for opinions and got them.  Please just lay off the sarcasm, Falconer.  Thank you.

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 08:31:34 pm »
"And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling skeptics!"
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 08:58:46 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 08:28:08 am »
That is pretty crazy. Kinda weird how it resembles a man on a horse... dunn dunn dunnnn







Oh great.... now here come the floods of people freaking out because its the end of the world.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 08:36:33 pm »
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That is pretty crazy. Kinda weird how it resembles a man on a horse... dunn dunn dunnnn

It could be the headless horseman!

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Oh great.... now here come the floods of people freaking out because its the end of the world

For the billionth time.

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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2011, 03:38:55 pm »
I did think of the headless horseman when I first saw it... lol


Anything is possible.. so, you never know.
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Re: Mysterious Ghost Horse and Rider in Cairo footage?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 07:51:23 am »
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Several news cameras have shown this video today where it looks like there is a mysterious ghost horse and rider in it.  Some say it's a lens flare, others are saying that it's the fourth horse of the apocalypse, and others say they just don't know what it is.  What is your opinion?

It is obviously just a lens flare off the fire in the crowd. According to Revelation, the horsemen will not appear until after the Rapture. Therefore, there is no way this is the case. Although the end may be near (who knows?), this is by no means a sign.

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