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mawhite63

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 04:58:18 am »
I don't smoke pot now, and unless I was very ill and needed it for medical reasons I wouldn't smoke it if it was legal. However, I think it's pointless and a waste that it continues to be illegal. And even more than that, I think it's heartless that anyone suffering who doesn't live in a medical marijuana state should live in fear that they'll be arrested.

I think the jump from illegal to legal is too big, especially with so much misinformation in many people's minds. I think the start should be decriminalization, and then start a transition to legal.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2011, 06:03:57 am »
Yes, I think it should be legal for medical patients. medical patients need protection though. It is not very safe since illegal druggies will always be trying to rip you off. Illegal growers offering to help the medical patients grow their plants is another scam to watch out for. If you are approved for a legal license you have to be very careful and keep it to yourself.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2011, 11:35:20 am »
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 03:29:51 pm »
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.

Wrong.  Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW.  They were going to do it whether or not it was legal.  You are either a loser or not.  Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 10:32:41 pm »
I am basically dumbfounded I dont know if that is the correct word. I am not sure if they should or shouldnt. I mean would it increase car deaths? Would it still have the same chemicals in it if it was legal? And if we were to legalize marijuana what would be next? People who make profit from it would just be more in demand because once its legalized its not going to be as popular. Just like alcohol is england it isnt as popular because unlike the states they dont have to wait until they are 21 to consume it. regardless of what happens there are still going to be something illegal going on...

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2011, 07:45:40 am »
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Quote from: mh874892 on May 17, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.


Wrong.  Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW.  They were going to do it whether or not it was legal.  You are either a loser or not.  Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.


Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 11:00:45 am »
I don't rely on the government making drugs illegal so that I wont make the mistake of taking them. I don't know any rational human being that says that because the government made drugs illegal, they decided not to take drugs. Just because the government didn't make punching myself illegal doesn't mean I am going to go off and start punching myself. On the flip side, just because the government made something illegal doesn't mean its necessarily bad for you. The government is not infallible. If they where to make apples illegal it doesn't mean apples have become bad for you. My main point is that the government has no authority to say what is or isn't bad for you and that their decisions does not impact nor affect that reality.

Marijuana is probably the best example of this. Marijuana wasn't made illegal because of public safety, it was made illegal because of racism. It wasn't justified by throughly scientific and objective research, it was justified with now debunked research. Marijuana hasn't killed anyone from just taking it, and it hasn't made everyone who smoked it a criminal (my definition of criminal is an act that harms another individual, I don't rely on the government to give me the definition of criminal). But worse of all is the fact that the government is hypocritical. Marijuana is a drug that is not directly harmful, addictive, doesn't harm one's rational thinking to an extent that they would commit crimes, and in fact has been used to help those medically and has been studied extensively, and is illegal. Alcohol is a drug that is directly harmful, has killed people from being overly intoxicated, addictive, does harm one's rational thinking to an extent that they would commit crimes, and is legal. Regardless of your beliefs that any drug should be illegal, this goes to show that the government is not always correct in their thinking and we should rely on them for such matters. The government should not be involved in prohibition of anything.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 11:02:56 am »
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Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak

I was an hour late this morning and I don't do any drugs! lol People over endulge in a lot of other things than just mj and many of those things are a lot more harmful. Plus you get the idea that all pot users are losers-- that is furthest from the truth. I know plenty of people that use it and they're hard workers. It helps them concentrate on things and blurs pain. A long time ago there was this guy here on the forum who retired from construction management and he said he would use it because he always had rough days at work-- he said it blurred his physical pain and helped him feel more at ease. College students use it all the time to ease their stress and some said it helped them write papers more efficiently. Thing is, these are all isolated examples and my experiences with people are obviously different from yours. But knowing this, how does your argument have any weight to it?

If you're worried about the lazy people, maybe we should make unemployment checks much harder to get. Because according to my friend, it's bad enough as it is. That's a whole separate battle that does not run very parallel with pot.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 11:07:40 am »
Flackle pretty much summed up the whole argument. Good job. Anyone who does any research on the history of it will know that the reasons it was made illegal were for absolutely retarded reasons in every sense of the word. It was compared to heroin and was labelled as a black drug. And you don't want to be associated with black people!!!

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 12:40:56 pm »
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Quote from: mh874892 on May 17, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.


Wrong.  Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW.  They were going to do it whether or not it was legal.  You are either a loser or not.  Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.


Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak.

if they use YOUR tax money to buy weed which would be heavily taxed, then the money is just going right back were YOU put it.  Failed counter argument.

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2011, 09:58:57 pm »
if alcohol's legal then why not?

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2011, 08:36:08 am »
should be people's choice whether they do it or not, but like alcohol, would need to be regulated (more strictly)

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2011, 12:41:58 pm »
Totally 100% legal.

In every single way possible.

I want it to be SO legal, that when and if I ever get stopped by the police, I don't get sent to jail for having a joint.
 
I think that needing a perscription for pot is ridiculous. ALL POTHEADS have "connects", and this means.. we arent messing with the riches tax money. We are purchasing under the table. What is the big deal, really?

I am not hurting any one. Point blank. No one has ever driven high and killed someone. It doesn't work that way. Majority of the people I know are pot smokers, including myself, and we aren't lazy. I don't understand what some opinions here are really based on.
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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2011, 02:07:18 pm »
The first and most basic reason that marijuana should be legal is that there is no good reason for it not to be legal. Some people ask 'why should marijuana be legalized?" but we should ask "Why should marijuana be illegal?" From a philosophical point of view, individuals deserve the right to make choices for themselves. The government only has a right to limit those choices if the individual's actions endanger someone else. This does not apply to marijuana, since the individual who chooses to use marijuana does so according to his or her own free will. :icon_rr: :icon_rr: :icon_rr: :peace: :peace: :peace: :heart: :heart: :heart:

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Re: Should it Be Legal or Illegal?
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2011, 08:03:05 am »
No one has ever driven high and killed someone.

Simply not true, and Grossly irresponsible to say.

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