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kl70364

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2011, 03:32:13 am »
Ok it was nice to actually have "the first black president" and I voted for him for that reason and a few others. Let's face it though, he doesn't really deserve another 4 years! I know we probably shouldn't be having political discussions on FC, but I have to voice that he HAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED ALL HE SAID THAT HE PROMISED US AS A NATION! I do not think he deserves another try! He has everything messed up now that he is in office! I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2011, 11:20:19 am »
I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:

You know that presidents can only have two terms, right?

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #92 on: September 18, 2011, 02:32:25 pm »
I sure hope not! I dont think he will win though. I didnt vote for him, and wont vote for him again! We need a president with some *bleep*!! Our last few presidents havent been very good! Because our deficit and economy has been going down hill for quite awhile.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #93 on: September 18, 2011, 03:09:53 pm »
it doesnt matter. there is allready a plan for america. the president is just a face. always has been. always will be. but for what it is worth, in more or less words, i like the person they have made "Obama" to be.  :icon_rr:

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2011, 02:44:19 am »
He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2011, 01:05:24 pm »
He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.

What?

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #96 on: September 24, 2011, 12:28:47 pm »
I sure hope not! I dont think he will win though. I didnt vote for him, and wont vote for him again! We need a president with some *bleep*!! Our last few presidents havent been very good! Because our deficit and economy has been going down hill for quite awhile.

I've heard rumors that the Democrats will try to run some candidates to the Left of Obama, not to beat him but to pull him more in that direction. Or I've heard that Hillary Clinton might be dusted off to run instead. What do you think of these desperate moves?

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #97 on: September 24, 2011, 01:10:51 pm »
what do you think? will he win?  if yes, would he do anything different to change the situation we are in now?  who can do better?
I certainly hope he does not win.
 If he did I do not see him doing anything different to make things right for the American people. Everything he has done so far has caused more havoc in this country and no one but big business and the politicians themselves are benefiting from it. He has used is power as President to to do some under handed things, things that the American public should have had the vote on. What happened to his big promise to bring jobs to the people. There are no jobs out there today or should I say very few. We need jobs not only for the highly educated but also for those of us that could not afford to get an education. Bring back the factory work of years ago. I know where I live we used to have many factories, some good paying jobs and now there are none.
I don't know who could do better but they would have to have a very wide knowledge base behind them to fix what the last two Presidents have screwed up.
I miss how the economy was when Bill Clinton was is office, yes I know many didn't like him and he made some mistakes in his personal life, but this country was thriving and that to me was the most important thing. He did his job well and did it for the American people to have better lives.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #98 on: September 24, 2011, 03:22:54 pm »
what do you think? will he win?  if yes, would he do anything different to change the situation we are in now?  who can do better?

The only reason he won in the first place is because no one was able to discern from his skewed presentations during initial debates during elections. People go caught up in the whole idea of "change" and their brain locked up at that point.  I would like to think America is a little smarter than that, but unfortunately not. 

Who can do better?  Someone that has an agenda to help America as a whole and to make a longterm difference.  Common sense tells me that if we are not producing anything, we will probably continue to fail.  What do you think?  Does the problem sound simple?

All this infusing money into the system is something we did back in the day when Americans were still willing to work.  Those days are over!

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #99 on: September 24, 2011, 05:16:54 pm »
i hope he does and do better then he has done for the people of the united states.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #100 on: September 24, 2011, 09:40:04 pm »
I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:

You know that presidents can only have two terms, right?



Yes I know I was just insisting. :star:

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #101 on: September 25, 2011, 10:06:44 am »
He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.

What?

I will second your "What?" and also add it is people like him/her that have NO business voting or complaining about the state of the country. If you haven't a clue how things actually work, stay away from politics and decisions for the rest of our sakes, please. :P
I'll vote for Obama - when my wings and horns sprout..... :angry7:
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #102 on: September 27, 2011, 09:20:45 am »
I liked how the president has kept to his slogan... He has kept us hoping that the economy will improve, and at the same time has left us with nothing but a little loose change.

Seriously, I don't think he will win. Almost every election after his has gone to the republicans, including a few surprise elections in historically democratic districts. People are upset with the economy (always a losing issue for the incumbent). Although former president Bush did muck things up in terms of the economy, President Obama has had enough time (and a willing congress from his own party for the first two years) to make changes to correct those issues. However instead of trying to address the issue of the economy right away, he used his legislative leverage to ram Obama Care down our throats (when we have to pass a bill to know what's in a bill... I call that ramming down our throats).

And the policies that he is now employing to "fix" the economy are actually making things worse. the true Keynesian philosophy is to increase taxation during good economic times to increase government coffers such that when the economy turns south, the government can increase their spending to cause a stimulus in demand to the economy. However for quite some time, our country has incurred a debt, not a surplus, even during the good economic times of the Reagan and Clinton years. So to now try to increase government spending as a demand stimulus, we either have to increase deficit spending or have to raise taxes to cover the cost for the additional spending. This puts us in another predicament in that our debt is so large now that there is fear that the US may default on our loans (which is why the US credit rating was lowered even after the debt-limit was increased), so increased deficit spending may do more harm than good. On the other hand, increase in taxes decreases the amount of money that resides in the private sector, which is what we are trying to stimulate in the first place. The increased government spending may boost the demand for private sector goods and services, but the taxes are pulling the money right back out again (and since it goes through a bunch of red-tape in the process, less money makes it back into the private sector).

There is also a lot of concern in the private sector in that businesses don't know what to expect from the government. At first president Obama was saying that to repeal the Bush tax cuts would only hurt the struggling economy, but now that Obama is in re-election mode, he's singing a different tune. When companies see this uncertainty, it makes it even more difficult to hire workers. When a company hires someone, they are measuring how the asset will effect business not only now, but in the years to come. Workers are not an expendable resource like physical products: a new computer you pay $50K once, but a worker you may pay $50K every year that they are with the company. So it is always in the companies best interest when they are able to rely on what future expenses are going to be in order to project whether they should hire. If, however, a company has fears that they may not have the money in the future -- be it from increases in taxes, increased energy costs, regulatory costs, healthcare costs, etc. -- that company is less likely to hire new workers. Unfortunately, our current president has been increasing each of these costs, whether it be in taxes, his energy plan (esp. in light of the BP disaster), or Obama Care (esp. if the health insurance mandate is ruled unconstitutional as it has been in several lesser federal courts).

It's all well and good to claim that president Obama inherited a bad economy, but if the first driver pointed a car towards the edge of a cliff and a second driver says he'll fix the situation by stepping on the gas, I thinks it's time to get a third driver in there to stomp on the brakes and turn the car around.

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #103 on: September 27, 2011, 10:01:39 am »
no i dont think he will, personaly

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Re: Do you think Obama will win another four years
« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2011, 10:03:22 am »
I'm not sure if he will win or not.  But I do believe there are a lot of people that voted for him that think he hasn't done what he said he would do.  The real problem is congress.  They need to learn to get along.

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