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Joeyramone

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2011, 06:12:07 pm »
if obama didnt destroy the country then who did, dont blame bush he didnt put has in a trillion dollar debt

Serious? Do you live under a rock and been clueless for the last 10 years? Our country has been getting further in debt since the Clinton era. Obama was dealt the worst hand ever and it's gonna take some time to see improvements. Congress isn't doing him any favors with no one agreeing on anything and being stubborn to their perspective political parties. Things are not going to be fixed over night people. There wasn't a single person nominated who was a better choice then Obama at the time he was elected regardless of his race.



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/another-chart-that-should-accompany-all-debt-ceiling-discussions/242604/





http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/92569/bush-obama-deficit-tax-cut-stimulus-health

This is debunked garbage... you should be embarrassed and ashamed for posting it.


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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2011, 06:20:41 pm »
You are welcome to debate and argue it with your own links or articles instead of just stating your own opinion. I am not embarrassed at all for posting it. Prove me wrong.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2011, 08:54:08 am »
Totally agree with the starter of this Blog.  No second term for him

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2011, 10:19:48 am »
Obama is turning the country into a socialist nightmare which is what he intended from the beginning.  He even said so over and over before he was elected.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2011, 04:19:10 pm »
Personally, We've only had two, maybe three good presidents. And none of them are in charge, neither are we. That isn't to say we can't take it back! However, follow the money. You soon find our lives have been in the hands of big bankers since even before the revolutionary war. Both political parties lean on one another, they work as a team. Obama was doing exactly as he was told. He might even serve another term because of his allegiance to 'Big Brother." Personally, I say we can do without all of them. "The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap." ~Ayn Rand 
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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2011, 04:27:45 pm »
It's not him..its the government!


who agrees?  :thumbsup:

I agree. It is a government that feels that it can spend money without regard to whether it should be spending that money or how it plans to pay for that spending. Whether that is because of a massive prescription drug program from the previous administration, a business-unfriendly energy plan of the current administration, or increased military spending by both administrations, government as a whole has just been spending our money recklessly.

The 8/2 deadline is not as bad as an actual default.... The government still takes in more money than it owes to its creditors; it just would mean that the treasury would have to prioritize whether to pay towards our debts or to pay other expenses without going above our current debt ceiling. A true default, on the other hand, is when the government cannot pay towards their debts let alone towards any other expenses. When the crediting agencies are warning about lowering our credit rating, it doesn't necessarily mean that we need to increase this debt-limit; if the treasury chooses to default on some loans in place of not paying other obligations, then the agency may lower our rating because of the strategic default. But the agencies are more concerned about the way the government is handling its finances as a whole. The chairman of the S&P made an announcement today indicating that this is the idea behind the warnings that we've been hearing lately. Even if we increase the debt limit but do nothing to curb our spending, the debt will continue to increase and the financial status of our country will continue to go downhill. It is this that the lending agencies are most worried about.

To help make this make sense, just think about your own credit score... Let's say that you had racked up a bunch of debt: a house mortgage, car payments, student loans, credit cards, etc. As long as you continue to pay towards these debts, your rating won't go down. However what happens if you start to incur a deficit in your finances; you have to take an unpaid leave of absence from work to deal with a death in your family. You may still have enough money to cover all of your debt (and thus wouldn't have to default on your loans), but you have other obligations that you also need to cover (eg food, gas, cable, other utilities, etc.) You may then need to get another loan to help with the short-term financial problems: take out a personal loan, get a second mortgage, ask for an increase in the credit limit of your current credit cards. This is how us people increase our debt limit. Now doing such an increase may put a small hit on your credit score, but as long as this is just a temporary deficit, it won't hurt you too much. But lets say that your deficit is incurred by spending more than you can afford: you go out to eat for all of your meals, you get a mortgage for a mansion, you party at the nightclubs, etc. And you continue to ask for debt-limit increases (again either by additional loans or by increasing the limits on the loans you currently have). Eventually the bank or credit card will look at your deficit spending and will drop your credit score as a result; even if you are somehow able to pay towards the debt you hold, your reckless spending will cause credit agencies to begin questioning whether you'll be able to do so in the future and thus will lower your credit rating as a result. When that happens you have to start seriously looking at your own spending habits and cut back on the wasteful spending, or go broke by defaulting on your loans.


Probably the best thing to do is just vote all and I mean all the incumbents out. Send a message and the newbies had better work with the people or out again.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2011, 06:25:26 pm »
We got the "change" alright. Government owes money to China. Look at the stuff we buy most of it is "Made in China". Obama's plan is to destroy America and he is doing a good job at that. Obama is a follower not a leader.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2011, 06:50:53 am »
I think Obama's doing the best he can with what he has to work with at the moment. The change this country needs isn't going to happen overnight, and it certainly might take a few years for things to look up. But by all means, if you think you can run this country better, in its' current state, then run for president.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2011, 08:52:32 am »
I think that Obama is doing a fine job considering the mess left to him by the previous imbecile in office.  I mean, come on, Clinton left us with a zero deficit and Bush ran it up to trillions of dollars.  People will say that it was because of the war...BS!  We never should have entered into that war under the circumstances that we did and I still think that it was completely related to oil. Bush had a pre-set agenda and, under his monarchy, created the disaster that Obama is trying to clean up today.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2011, 10:29:49 am »
I think the tea partyists are destroying our country, honestly.  The money doesn't matter as much to me as the welfare of our citizens does.  When I see the suggestion that entitlements get cut so that the very rich can keep more of their money while others do without, it worries me.  People are getting more selfish these days.



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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2011, 12:19:35 pm »
It's not him..its the government!


who agrees?  :thumbsup:
I agree! :thumbsup:

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 10:23:33 am »
ne  shure trying to do it so his Monsignor brothers can take over and kill all that will not join them.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2011, 11:18:46 am »
In my opinion he was elected as a leader and has failed to lead.  End result is a government in KAOS.  Hope the next person who is elected to fill the shoes of the president is a leader who can lead.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2011, 12:31:28 pm »
PLEASE STOP WITH THE STUPIDITY.  OBAMA DOES NOT RUN THIS COUNTRY ALONE AS YOU HAVE SEEN ON TV.  WITH ALL THE "POLITRICKS" BEING PLAYED OUT BY THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, ITS A WONDER THERE IS A COUNTRY TO RUN.  BTW OBAMA DIDN'T START THIS  MESS, HE WAS DROPPED INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS MISHMASH LEFT BY BUSH.
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