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hensleyll

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Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« on: September 07, 2011, 08:43:36 pm »
Wow! My cousin posted on her facebook no more pledge over intercom at her grandkids school in Roanoke VA ,What is the big deal,If the children are given option to not have to say it? Why Ban It All Together?
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 10:50:44 pm »
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Wow! My cousin posted on her facebook no more pledge over intercom at her grandkids school in Roanoke VA ,What is the big deal,If the children are given option to not have to say it? Why Ban It All Together?

The pledge has always been optional in my lifetime. People who don't pledge allegiance usually do it for religious reasons. I think it's important to know and explain what it means to kids (which I can't remember getting an education on) so they understand all aspects of it.

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 05:55:05 am »
Wow! My cousin posted on her facebook no more pledge over intercom at her grandkids school in Roanoke VA ,What is the big deal,If the children are given option to not have to say it? Why Ban It All Together?

Agreed! It should be optional. After all a lot of people have died to give us this right. Should we as a nation disregard them as well?


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Re: Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 08:46:21 pm »
Why should children be made to pledge allegiance when they really have no idea or care what they are saying?  They're not soldiers in the military.  I remember saying it in school and it was really meaningless.  We just said it because they told us to.  It was just a bunch of words.

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 09:01:08 pm »
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Agreed! It should be optional. After all a lot of people have died to give us this right. Should we as a nation disregard them as well?

I'm sure those who sacrificed themselves wouldn't consider it respectable for teachers to tell their students to do it just because they should. If they don't understand it and are just forced to do it (causing them to think it's boring and pointless), that's not freedom. Education is key here.

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Re: Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 11:55:09 pm »



I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
I was lying in bed the other night, looking up at the stars, and thinking, "Where in the heck is my roof?"

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 01:28:11 am »
I also read where a group is trying to BAN it in Boston, Mass. schools!    What in the world is the problem with saying it?   If these so called "peace groups" don't like what it stands for then they should all "LEAVE" this country!   

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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 10:51:40 am »
Stop coming to black and white conclusions, people. It's really annoying. Tammy and Hensley-- if you're  going to say such a claim, POST AN ARTICLE ON IT SO WE CAN READ WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 11:07:24 am »
Stop coming to black and white conclusions, people. It's really annoying. Tammy and Hensley-- if you're  going to say such a claim, POST AN ARTICLE ON IT SO WE CAN READ WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.

I agree with you as far as making black and white blanket statements, very irritating. Here is a link to the Massachusetts story and just to add to both our already irritated brains, I took it from one of our very favorite news sources, Falc.....FOX, lol! ;D
http://tinyurl.com/3hrbd22

The dude saying it "makes my skin crawl" really needs to get out into the real world if he finds the P. of A. that upsetting! I can think of a thousand things far more harmful that are happening in schools and the country et al than this. >:(
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

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Re: Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 01:13:00 pm »
I don't think people should be forced to do anything they don't want to.. So needless to say I don't think it's right to make it mandatory to say it in school... But have some pride, people! :)
I think it's rude when people refuse to stand up and say the pledge, but it's their choice in the end.

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Re: Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 05:49:59 pm »
Well personally i neither thought black nor white! So I Don`t Know Where You Got That! I`m Merely Saying What Is The Big Deal! It Is Not Hurting Anyone IS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 10:43:18 am »
The pledge of allegiance has absolutely nothing to do with religion.  It is to show patriotism to our country and respect for it.  Those that are so against religion and that want to come up with their own beliefs have lost sense of what should or should not be so as long as they can stand up and only believe as they believe.  Under God is in the pledge because that was what our country was built upon.  Where do you think that our judicial system came from?  Honestly think, where would we have gotten understanding of or basic rights and wrongs if it were not from the ten commandments?  But, off my rant, as far as he pledge of allegiance goes, I believe that there should be an option that if people do not believe in the USA then don't restate the pledge if you do then say it proudly!

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 10:50:18 am »
I feel that when people don't say the Pledge of Allegiance, it is extremely disrespectful. People should be happy that they get to live in a free country like this instead of somewhere else where they have no freedoms. If you don't respect the country, maybe you should go to another country for a few months, then you might see how lucky you are to be able to live here.

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Re: Pledge Of Alegiance !{Sorry If I Spelled It Wrong}
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 11:29:03 am »
When I was a kid in school, I didn't understand the pledge of allegiance, but it was mandatory for me too. If I was sitting during the pledge of allegiance, my teacher told me to stand up, and would also tell me to place my right hand over my heart if I wasn't doing it.

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2011, 12:50:49 pm »
Under God is in the pledge because that was what our country was built upon.  Where do you think that our judicial system came from?  Honestly think, where would we have gotten understanding of or basic rights and wrongs if it were not from the ten commandments? 

The original pledge of allegiance never had the "Under God" part in it. That was added by President Eisenhower, along with the "In god we trust" printed on the bills. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
Our country was founded on freedom of religion. One of the hugest reasons why we had 13 colonies was because people branched out all over the new world because they were being KILLED in certain places for wanting to practice a different religion. We were not founded on Christianity and in fact, that annoys me greatly because it seems that nobody knows history anymore. If you look into it almost all of the founding fathers were DIESTS or ATHEISTS. The man who wrote the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson himself, made many a quotes about atheism and how he didn't like religion.
And also, people were around before Jesus and where do you think they got their ideas of right and wrong then? As society grows, it becomes common sense to do certain things and we don't need 10 commandments on stones to tell us. As we evolved we would have learned killing our own people was detrimental, that stealing from ourselves was detrimental, that fighting with ourselves was detrimental. All these things that we supposedly learned from religion, are just things our brains learned for themselves as they involved. In fact, even most lion prides, and other animal species, don't harm one another (unless it's for self defense) because they know that killing their own is not good for their species. And I don't think that they have a religion or a God that they talk to. It's called natural instinct.

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