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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2011, 01:42:56 pm »
... we do know the reason for the season is Jesus and his birth



"Christian missionaries frequently sought to stamp out pagan practices by building churches on the sites of pagan shrines or by associated Christian holidays with pagan rituals (eg. linking -Christmas with the celebration of the winter solstice)."--Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia. Merriam Webster. 2000. p. 1211



all i can say is it drives me nuts when people com plane that cause they don't believe in Christ that people should happy holidays i don't think so if you don't believe in Christ the make your holiday on new years leave Christmas alone. 



Since "christmas" is a theft of pre-existing pagan holidays, it's ironic when people complain about fencing stolen culture.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2011, 01:38:23 pm »
this is simple reality folks.. if pple dont celebrate jesus birthday they celebrate a fake fat man with a beard saying ho ho ho...

its sad really... but id guess spirit lives on here.. but still why celebrate a fake fat man with a beard???

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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2011, 02:25:32 pm »
this is simple reality folks.. if pple dont celebrate jesus birthday they celebrate a fake fat man with a beard saying ho ho ho...



No, it's even simpler than that; winter solstice celebrations were appropriated to obscure them, not as the birth of some guy.



its sad really... but id guess spirit lives on here.. but still why celebrate a fake fat man with a beard???
think what you wanna think but please respect others peoples beliefs... its true that some think that way i have no problem with that im born raised christian but no one cant control anyones behaviors... so i suggest please be respectful to others as we respect yours...



So calling the beliefs of some others celebrating "a fake fat man with a beard" is respectful of their beliefs?  My response emphasizes your hypocrisy in wanting your baseless, fictional beliefs 'respected' while disparaging those of others.  Consider your beliefs disparaged.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2011, 02:36:42 pm »
@falcon9

i dont know why you have a beef with me.. im just saying i respect others.. but im just statin a simple fact of what others have been believing.. so as for you to judge me on something its uncalled for...

for you to call me a hypocrite so wrong on many levels.. im not judging here just statin a fact of pples behaviors..

so please cut the crap of me saying im a hypocrite.

for pple like you need to lighten up a bit it shows how you can be so ignorant...

non the less i think your doing the same thing right? even tho you think you have the right concept and the mindset for it and yet you judge others beliefs as well? im just saying man i  agree that it is a pagen holiday but respect others for it too.. yeah my opinion but i still respect others... unlike some pple



« Last Edit: December 31, 2011, 02:49:03 pm by sammywantsya »

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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2011, 02:50:54 pm »
@falcon9
i dont know why you have a beef with me.. im just saying i respect others..



Unless they believe in a "fake fat man with a beard"?



but im just statin a simple fact of what others have been believing.. so as for you to judge me on something its uncalled for...



I'm not judging you per se, I'm responding to what you've written here and that is called for.



for you to call me a hypocrite so wrong on many levels.. im not judging here just statin a fact of pples behaviors..



The hypocrisy consists of your making contradictory statements in which you want your beliefs in a religious figure to be 'respected' while you disparage the beliefs of others in another mythical figure.



so please cut the crap of me saying im a hypocrite.



Your own words demonstrate your hypocrisy.  If you don't care for them, cease posting them.


for pple like you need to lighten up a bit it shows how you can be so ignorant...



Your empty characterization of my so-called ignorance is ironically-humorous.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2011, 03:00:28 pm »
@falcon9
i dont know why you have a beef with me.. im just saying i respect others..



Unless they believe in a "fake fat man with a beard"?



but im just statin a simple fact of what others have been believing.. so as for you to judge me on something its uncalled for...



I'm not judging you per se, I'm responding to what you've written here and that is called for.



for you to call me a hypocrite so wrong on many levels.. im not judging here just statin a fact of pples behaviors..



The hypocrisy consists of your making contradictory statements in which you want your beliefs in a religious figure to be 'respected' while you disparage the beliefs of others in another mythical figure.



so please cut the crap of me saying im a hypocrite.



Your own words demonstrate your hypocrisy.  If you don't care for them, cease posting them.


for pple like you need to lighten up a bit it shows how you can be so ignorant...



Your empty characterization of my so-called ignorance is ironically-humorous.

man you try to generilize everything huh just because on what i said?  LOL you can act smart but stop with the judgement and attacks on me.. i may not be on your level of your smartness but i have the right to say what i wanna say...  im not smart as you are but please refrain yourself for acting fake...   im just staten simpler of what you been statin... so stop with the nonsense bullying... you refer santa as a pagen holiday? that means fake isnt it? it means its useless right...

so before you go on i think you should be the one respecting pple here..
im not trying to be mean like you are just statin on what i see from this thread..       
« Last Edit: December 31, 2011, 03:03:13 pm by sammywantsya »

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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2011, 03:16:06 pm »
man you try to generilize everything huh just because on what i said? 



No, I replied specifically to what you posted; no generalizations were required.



LOL you can act smart but stop with the judgement and attacks on me..



I'm not acting; I always post in this manner regarding this subject matter.  These responses are to what you've posted, whether you consider them to be judgemental "attacks" or not.  Since your posted replies can be considered as 'attacks' on reason, I've responded accordingly.


i may not be on your level of your smartness but i have the right to say what i wanna say... 




You do have the "right" to make specious posts, just as I have the "right" to respond to substantially respond to them.  It works both ways in a public forum.



im not smart as you are but please refrain yourself for acting fake... 


You've mentioned 'judging' at least twice now, while hypocritically 'judging' that you perceive my replies as "acting fake".  This is the second example of hypocrisy which you've posted, in your own words.  



im just staten simpler of what you been statin... so stop with the nonsense bullying...



Now you're 'acting' like a martyr; this is niot "bullying", it is responding to the posts you've made.  Consider stopping your nonsense of making false accusations or, continue on your present course.  It's up to you.



you refer santa as a pagen holiday?


When did I do that?  While the date celebrated is based on prior pagan holidays, (solstice, Festival of Mithris, Sol Invictus, etc.), "santa" derives from "St. Nick" - a xtian saint.



that means fake isnt it? it means its useless right...


Yes, xtian mythology consists of unsubstantiated myths.  As far as those myths being "useless", I tend to concur.



so before you go on i think you should be the one respect pple here.. im not trying to be mean just statin on what i see..



I am unable to decipher the precise meaning of your inarticulate jumble however, it can be provisionally discerned as having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2011, 03:24:59 pm »
man you try to generilize everything huh just because on what i said? 



No, I replied specifically to what you posted; no generalizations were required.



LOL you can act smart but stop with the judgement and attacks on me..



I'm not acting; I always post in this manner regarding this subject matter.  These responses are to what you've posted, whether you consider them to be judgemental "attacks" or not.  Since your posted replies can be considered as 'attacks' on reason, I've responded accordingly.


i may not be on your level of your smartness but i have the right to say what i wanna say... 




You do have the "right" to make specious posts, just as I have the "right" to respond to substantially respond to them.  It works both ways in a public forum.



im not smart as you are but please refrain yourself for acting fake... 


You've mentioned 'judging' at least twice now, while hypocritically 'judging' that you perceive my replies as "acting fake".  This is the second example of hypocrisy which you've posted, in your own words.  



im just staten simpler of what you been statin... so stop with the nonsense bullying...



Now you're 'acting' like a martyr; this is niot "bullying", it is responding to the posts you've made.  Consider stopping your nonsense of making false accusations or, continue on your present course.  It's up to you.



you refer santa as a pagen holiday?


When did I do that?  While the date celebrated is based on prior pagan holidays, (solstice, Festival of Mithris, Sol Invictus, etc.), "santa" derives from "St. Nick" - a xtian saint.



that means fake isnt it? it means its useless right...


Yes, xtian mythology consists of unsubstantiated myths.  As far as those myths being "useless", I tend to concur.



so before you go on i think you should be the one respect pple here.. im not trying to be mean just statin on what i see..



I am unable to decipher the precise meaning of your inarticulate jumble however, it can be provisionally discerned as having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

yes im unarmed that means im not smart as you... but  im just statin the fact... so dont try to put your words saying im the bad guy here... im not trying to act mean here like you are with me. im just saying i agree with what you said.   so what do you want me to do go kill myself ? is that what you really want?  just saying it simplest way so regular pple like us can understand..

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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2011, 03:31:36 pm »
yes im unarmed that means im not smart as you... but  im just statin the fact... so dont try to put your words saying im the bad guy here... im not trying to act mean here like you are with me.



Your interpretations of the English language appear to lean toward randomness; nothing was posted about your being "the bad guy".



im just saying i agree with what you said.   so what do you want me to do go kill myself ? is that what you really want?  just saying it simplest way so regular pple like us can understand..



No, your "simplest way" consists of contentious points and these were contended.  The alternative to 'killing yourself' is to respond to what is actually written in reply, rather than characterizing yourself as some sort of 'victim'.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2011, 03:39:20 pm »
yes im unarmed that means im not smart as you... but  im just statin the fact... so dont try to put your words saying im the bad guy here... im not trying to act mean here like you are with me.



Your interpretations of the English language appear to lean toward randomness; nothing was posted about your being "the bad guy".



im just saying i agree with what you said.   so what do you want me to do go kill myself ? is that what you really want?  just saying it simplest way so regular pple like us can understand..



No, your "simplest way" consists of contentious points and these were contended.  The alternative to 'killing yourself' is to respond to what is actually written in reply, rather than characterizing yourself as some sort of 'victim'.

i understand you hate me.. and if you want me to apologize then fine i apologize for what i said.. i just want this to end aight...  god your words do kill me tho... its just a headache......


but if i was acting mean in anyway im sorry.. just stop with the hate... you where statin the fact i was i well we where on the same boat.. but yet you keep referring me as a hypocrite where you where doing the same thing...

you just dont get it it do you...  keep studying my words it doesnt matter you where doing the same thing by disrespecting pple of believing santa.. your the one to talk my friend... 
« Last Edit: December 31, 2011, 03:42:33 pm by sammywantsya »

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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2011, 03:48:04 pm »
i understand you hate me..



I don't know you well enough to hate you therefore, I do not.  I don't even "hate" the posts you make, I'm merely challenging them.


and if you want me to apologize then fine i apologize for what i said.. i just want this to end aight...  god your words do kill me tho... its just a headache......



No apologies were requested nor, required.  You posted your opinions, these were challenged and you perceived these challenges as "attacks".  If you did not wish your ideas to be challenged, why post them in this forum?



but if i was acting mean in anyway im sorry.. just stop with the hate...



There is no "hate" in these replies beyond your misperceptions.



you where statin the fact i was i well we where on the same boat.. but yet you keep referring me as a hypocrite where you where doing the same thing...



No, replies were made to specific posts in your own words which exemplified your hypocrisy in context.  Conversely, I have no beliefs in either a mythical "santa" nor a mythical "jesus" therefore, no hypocrisy on my part has been envinced.



you just dont get it it do you... 



Unless you're making some obscure point, my replies demonstrate what I "get".  Yours demonstrate what you do not comprehend.
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2011, 03:59:58 pm »
WOW its easy just to ignore him talk... but im glad i pushed that button... 
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2011, 04:13:43 pm »
if you dont like what i wrote thats ok.. ill move on... but if you want to challenge someone just dont challenge me.. 



I did state that I was challenging the context of what you'd posted.  You have no control over who replies to your posts.



ignore me do what you can to block me...


I'd suggest that you adopt your own suggestion in regards to avoiding responding to any replies which 'disturb' your sensibilities.  I'm choosing to reply and, given your posted responses, so are you.



im just here like everyone else stating opinions...



While there is a difference between a substantiated opinion and an unsubstantiated one, I occasionally respond to both types.



so please do me a favor ignore me...



If I choose to do so, I will.  If not, I won't.  This largely depends upon continued participation.



i want to talk with regular pple here that can understand and not take things seriously... 



The solution is simple; cease replying to those for whom you have no substantive rebuttal.  Or, keep pretending that others 'do not understand' whatever obscure point you're trying to make, (beyond that which can be discerned from what you've posted).
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2011, 04:14:55 pm »
WOW its easy just to ignore him talk... but im glad i pushed that button... 



Good for you, (and ostriches)!  Now, that wasn't so difficult, was it?
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Re: If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2011, 06:55:20 pm »
... we do know the reason for the season is Jesus and his birth



"Christian missionaries frequently sought to stamp out pagan practices by building churches on the sites of pagan shrines or by associated Christian holidays with pagan rituals (eg. linking -Christmas with the celebration of the winter solstice)."--Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia. Merriam Webster. 2000. p. 1211



all i can say is it drives me nuts when people com plane that cause they don't believe in Christ that people should happy holidays i don't think so if you don't believe in Christ the make your holiday on new years leave Christmas alone. 



Since "christmas" is a theft of pre-existing pagan holidays, it's ironic when people complain about fencing stolen culture.

Ya duh Ya duh Ya duh!  *Yawn*  The same ole answers over and over.......  but if it makes you happy........ carry on.    :confused1:

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