Faith

[SurveyMack10]

" ... we have different opinions and simply cannot accept it. You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still going to agree to disagree ..."

You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still ... simply cannot accept it.

Those are the original and resequenced quotes, side-by-side. As can be seen by the grammatical rift in the resequenced version, no attempt to alter the actual words used was made.  The meaning change was being emphasized with the resequencing, (not concealed).


 

Irrelevant-

It is contextually-relevent.  The two versions were posted side-by-side for comparison purposes.  If wished, go ahead and interpret each one of your own statements insofar as you perceive their meaning to be.  Then, I'll do the same.  Or, not - your choice.

I was simply letting you know that your notion that removing and rearranging words doesn't change context is rarely, if ever, true.

[falcon9]

" ... we have different opinions and simply cannot accept it. You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still going to agree to disagree ..."

You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still ... simply cannot accept it.

I was simply letting you know that your notion that removing and rearranging words doesn't change context is rarely, if ever, true.

As can be seen by the grammatical rift in the resequenced version, no attempt to alter the actual words used was made.  The meaning change was being emphasized with the resequencing, (not concealed).  The context, (that you are trying to equate opinion with reason), remained your misconception.

[SurveyMack10]

" ... we have different opinions and simply cannot accept it. You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still going to agree to disagree ..."

You can continue to repeat yourself, but I am still ... simply cannot accept it.

I was simply letting you know that your notion that removing and rearranging words doesn't change context is rarely, if ever, true.

As can be seen by the grammatical rift in the resequenced version, no attempt to alter the actual words used was made.  The meaning change was being emphasized with the resequencing, (not concealed).  The context, (that you are trying to equate opinion with reason), remained your misconception.

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To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

[falcon9]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

[SurveyMack10]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

[falcon9]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

[SurveyMack10]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

Yes by your opinion I suppose that is true.
We don't have to agree.
In fact, I am perfectly fine with this conversation ending right now on a note of disagreement.

[falcon9]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

Yes by your opinion I suppose that is true.

It isn't 'merely' an opinion; you have not evinced any propensity for substantiating your claims therefore, they are baseless - that's not an "opinion", it's a reasoned conclusion.  Although the distinction obviously excapes you, it doesn't excape some others.

In fact, I am perfectly fine with this conversation ending right now on a note of disagreement.

As previously mentioned, the simpliest solution then would be for you to cease continuing this conversation.  Unless, of course, you're still playing that 'mature' gambit of getting in the last word, (which is not equivalent to sucessfully concluding an argument).  Either way is fine by me.

[JediJohnnie]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

Yes by your opinion I suppose that is true.

It isn't 'merely' an opinion; you have not evinced any propensity for substantiating your claims therefore, they are baseless - that's not an "opinion", it's a reasoned conclusion.  Although the distinction obviously excapes you, it doesn't excape some others.

In fact, I am perfectly fine with this conversation ending right now on a note of disagreement.

As previously mentioned, the simpliest solution then would be for you to cease continuing this conversation.  Unless, of course, you're still playing that 'mature' gambit of getting in the last word, (which is not equivalent to sucessfully concluding an argument).  Either way is fine by me.

Actually,I believe she was trying to end this conversation in a mature way by agreeing to disagree.You are the one continuing to call her opinions "baseless" and "thoughtless" which is not a convincing way of trying to end a discussion maturely.

[falcon9]

Actually,I believe she was trying to end this conversation in a mature way by agreeing to disagree.

Whatever you "believe", what it looks like is that she's still trying to 'maturely' get in the last word, rather than end this conversation by, oh I know, ceasing to reply to it?

You are the one continuing to call her opinions "baseless" and "thoughtless" which is ...

... Which is an accurate asseement, based upon her posted baseless opinions which are bereft of the thought that goes into reasoning instead.

[SurveyMack10]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

Yes by your opinion I suppose that is true.

It isn't 'merely' an opinion; you have not evinced any propensity for substantiating your claims therefore, they are baseless - that's not an "opinion", it's a reasoned conclusion.  Although the distinction obviously excapes you, it doesn't excape some others.

In fact, I am perfectly fine with this conversation ending right now on a note of disagreement.

As previously mentioned, the simpliest solution then would be for you to cease continuing this conversation.  Unless, of course, you're still playing that 'mature' gambit of getting in the last word, (which is not equivalent to sucessfully concluding an argument).  Either way is fine by me.

Actually,I believe she was trying to end this conversation in a mature way by agreeing to disagree.You are the one continuing to call her opinions "baseless" and "thoughtless" which is not a convincing way of trying to end a discussion maturely.

Glad someone noticed haha

[abdyer2001]

I believe that a large cause of the loss of relegion is based on the fact that most of it seems to be only about making money. too many have tried to turn it into a business.

[falcon9]

 ... [empty opinion] ...

Glad someone noticed haha

Yeah, what a shocker - an 'opinion' from another xtian supporting a xtian's opinions.  What's next, water is wet?

[SurveyMack10]

To fix the misunderstanding you can just leave my words the way they are, I don't need your help to convey my own thoughts.

Coincidentally, I don't need your thoughtless and baseless opinions.  Were you to suddenly begin backing them up with something other than random preference, they might be considered in the future.

No actually that is fine I really do not need you to consider them.

Nor, apparently, do you need for them to have any valid basis but, that's fine too.

Yes by your opinion I suppose that is true.

It isn't 'merely' an opinion; you have not evinced any propensity for substantiating your claims therefore, they are baseless - that's not an "opinion", it's a reasoned conclusion.  Although the distinction obviously excapes you, it doesn't excape some others.

In fact, I am perfectly fine with this conversation ending right now on a note of disagreement.

As previously mentioned, the simpliest solution then would be for you to cease continuing this conversation.  Unless, of course, you're still playing that 'mature' gambit of getting in the last word, (which is not equivalent to sucessfully concluding an argument).  Either way is fine by me.

Actually,I believe she was trying to end this conversation in a mature way by agreeing to disagree.You are the one continuing to call her opinions "baseless" and "thoughtless" which is not a convincing way of trying to end a discussion maturely.

Notice that even though I am not responding to him he continues to try to bait me into another conversation.

[abdyer2001]

I think that belief is failing based on how hard people are having to struggle. they may still believe in something greater than themselves, just not necessarily the ominous God that organized relegion would have you follow. But that does not mean they do not have faith.