Vegetarianism: the solution?

[Kiki1992]

I was watching some gruesome video footage of what really happens in factories that process chickens, cows, pigs, and many other animals, and how these animals suffered and died overwhelmed with fear. These factories continue to do what they do based on the demands of the population. If the population were to go vegan, these factories would literally have to shut down and animals would have earned their rights to live in peace and be left alone.

The other side is this: a population consuming everything but meat would inevitably be a population consuming plant related foods, meaning the trees and plants would have to replace the animals and endure their suffering. Now if you think about it, the world has been trying hard to preserve trees and "going green" and that would ultimately harm the trees and plants in a major way.


Both sides come down to the simple point of preserving our planet, both animals and plants.
But what do you think? Do you think going vegan is the solution, or would a vegan population be worst than one that consumes meat?

[Note: Please answer honestly and avoid the common phrase, "To each their own." This is a debate and I want to hear your opinions. Speak for yourself, not for everyone else.]

[Falconer02]

I say the problem lies within population growth. More people = more food = more killing animals and plants = stretching our resources thin. Solution? Stop having 2+ kids per couple. We're at 7 billion now. That's more than enough!

[falcon9]

My step-sister has a t-shirt which reads, "If You Hate Animals, Become A Vegan And Eat All Their Food".

[queenofnines]

Solution? Stop having 2+ kids per couple. We're at 7 billion now. That's more than enough!

Agreed!  One of the greatest contributions a person an make to the environment is to not reproduce.

While the practices of factory farming are indeed awful, you have to remember that the majority of these animals would not exist if the demand for meat weren't what it is.

[mtmailey]

people will always lust after meat

[ashleyxatrocity]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times. I'm not trying to sound like a cold hearted person in regards to our furry and feathered friends, but if an animal is being raised for consumption, then does it really matter how they're being treated pre-slaughter? (Except, of course, that they're being treated hygienically because nobody wants diseases.)
I agree with falconer that some population control is definitely in order. I personally, don't want to be on a fast path to Soylent Green.

[jaymz462]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times. I'm not trying to sound like a cold hearted person in regards to our furry and feathered friends, but if an animal is being raised for consumption, then does it really matter how they're being treated pre-slaughter? (Except, of course, that they're being treated hygienically because nobody wants diseases.)
I agree with falconer that some population control is definitely in order. I personally, don't want to be on a fast path to Soylent Green.

It certainly does- they're still living, breathing creatures who can feel pain and other emotions.  Even if they're just being raised for food, we should at least be humane about it.

Proud vegan right here 

[ashleyxatrocity]

It certainly does- they're still living, breathing creatures who can feel pain and other emotions.  Even if they're just being raised for food, we should at least be humane about it.

Proud vegan right here 

The people who run those farms with animals raised for food on them are also "living, breathing creatures who can feel pain and other emotions" yet they are subject to abuse from vegans such as yourself.

[Falconer02]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times.

PETA is friggin' nuts. When you compare chickens that were bred for eating with Jews in a Concentration Camp, your organization loses all credibility right then and there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
2:12

[trucktina]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times.

PETA is friggin' nuts. When you compare chickens that were bred for eating with Jews in a Concentration Camp, your organization loses all credibility right then and there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
2:12

 
It also doesn't help their cause to have naked women sit around in cages.

[falcon9]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times.

PETA is friggin' nuts. When you compare chickens that were bred for eating with Jews in a Concentration Camp, your organization loses all credibility right then and there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
2:12

 
It also doesn't help their cause to have naked women sit around in cages.

Are you suggesting that free-range women taste better? 

[ashleyxatrocity]

I've watched the PETA "Meet Your Meat" video several times.

PETA is friggin' nuts. When you compare chickens that were bred for eating with Jews in a Concentration Camp, your organization loses all credibility right then and there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
2:12

Agreed. The only thing I can relate to PETA about is the whole "anti-fur" idea.

[jaymz462]

It certainly does- they're still living, breathing creatures who can feel pain and other emotions.  Even if they're just being raised for food, we should at least be humane about it.

Proud vegan right here 

The people who run those farms with animals raised for food on them are also "living, breathing creatures who can feel pain and other emotions" yet they are subject to abuse from vegans such as yourself.

Oh?  And how am I abusing them?  I'd really like to know.

[Abrupt]

What the heck, why does this conversation leave me with visions of semi-naked fur clad women in cages?

[falcon9]

What the heck, why does this conversation leave me with visions of semi-naked fur clad women in cages?

It might have been triggered by this:

It also doesn't help their cause to have naked women sit around in cages.