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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2012, 10:48:18 pm »
see  falcon9 of all the talk on me and yet these pple here know it too.. they dont take things serious as you do...



I don't take the religious concepts seriously; I take the perpetuation of falsehoods more seriously.



you are disrespecting the beliefs of other religions saying there is no jesus..



No more so than you're saying there is no "Santa" however, I haven't asserted that there "is no jesus", (I have doubted the supernatural claims attributed to the mythical figure though).


for me saying fake fat man with a beard its like saying there is no jesus...



Exactly, so that is your being disrespectful of the beliefs of others.


so please save your self from embarrassment... you sir are disrespecting... admit that...


There's nothing to be embarrassed about; I'm not being hypocritical since I've been skeptical of both mythical ideas.
I am much more likely to believe that there was at one time a kindly old man that brought gifts to children and the tale has been exaggerated then to believe in bullshit religious claims. It is more likely that kids having heard of the man giving gifts also wanted gifts and their parents left gifts for them saying they were from him and so on and so on.

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2012, 10:50:18 pm »
Your remark is inarticulate.  Presumably, "must have dumb your deigning remarks" was intended as some sort of derrogatory comment however, it was written unintelligibly.

My point exactly, that response seemed beneath you to a simple why question?
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2012, 10:54:18 pm »
I am much more likely to believe that there was at one time a kindly old man that brought gifts to children and the tale has been exaggerated then to believe in bullshit religious claims. It is more likely that kids having heard of the man giving gifts also wanted gifts and their parents left gifts for them saying they were from him and so on and so on.



It's unclear whether or not the Dutch figure of Sinterklaus, (who purportedly left coins in shoes), ws pre-dated by another variation of the myth.  Either way, the giving and receiving of gifts is a practice which does pre-date current religions.
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2012, 10:56:11 pm »
Your remark is inarticulate.  Presumably, "must have dumb your deigning remarks" was intended as some sort of derrogatory comment however, it was written unintelligibly.




My point exactly, that response seemed beneath you to a simple why question?




Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2012, 11:33:45 pm »
Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?
By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2012, 11:51:41 pm »
Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?




By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?




Although that's not a "why" question, I'll reiterate that I'm against perpetuating either myth, ("santa" or "jesus"), as both promote delusions.  As previously mentioned, that would mean not encouraging breaking & entering, (nor unfounded religious beliefs).
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2012, 01:51:49 pm »
By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?

Although that's not a "why" question, I'll reiterate that I'm against perpetuating either myth, ("santa" or "Jesus"), as both promote delusions.  As previously mentioned, that would mean not encouraging breaking & entering, (nor unfounded religious beliefs).
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It's evident that you'd be targeting Jesus and that's why I left the place of unbelief but the why was towards your post.

"Probably along the same lines as perpetuating myths about "Jesus"; they don't want to disillusion the tykes and prefer to instill delusions."
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2012, 02:09:53 pm »
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?





As stated more than once, I don't concur with either myth's "criminal intent".
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2012, 03:21:41 pm »
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?


As stated more than once, I don't concur with either myth's "criminal intent".

No said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.
eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."

One has to believe in order to accept or deny. Like you said they chose the criminal intent what's your choice?
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2012, 05:24:18 pm »
No said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.



Your assertion makes no sense.  Disbelief is not "mythical", it consists of not believing, (usually disbelief in some unsupported assertion).



eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."



You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.



One has to believe in order to accept or deny.



That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2012, 10:19:28 pm »
Will there also always be an invisible pink unicorn, if only we believe?


HA!!! I was wondering where that elusive creature went......haven't heard a word about it for quite a while now, over at my other favorite "There is no...." topic
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2012, 12:07:29 am »
As I tell my kids, if you believe in Santa, you ill get presents from him, if you DON'T then NO PRESENTS from him!!

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2012, 12:18:03 am »
As I tell my kids, if you believe in Santa, you ill get presents from him, if you DON'T then NO PRESENTS from him!!




My kids, (now grown), had thanked me for not lying to them.  Honor is a gift which cannot be purchased.
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2012, 11:43:43 am »
No one said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.
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Your assertion makes no sense.  Disbelief is not "mythical", it consists of not believing, (usually disbelief in some unsupported assertion).

Our opinions differ. Disbelief is in fact mythical (no-one believed that the world was round until it was proven) Like-wise most people are
considered guilty until proven innocent; many like yourself support theoretic (assumed, mythical) evidences.

eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."
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You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)


One has to believe in order to accept or deny.
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That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.
Belief is twofold, but its rational. For you to deny or accept something you must hold some sort of belief.
Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2012, 01:28:31 pm »

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)

Belief is twofold, but its rational.

Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...

what...WHAT???   Nonsensical yik-yak...

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
                    
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