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falcon9

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2012, 01:36:11 pm »
Our opinions differ.



Yes, they do.  Mine have a basis in reason while the basis of your lies somewhere else.




Disbelief is in fact mythical (no-one believed that the world was round until it was proven).



Your assertions do not apply reasoning; some people 'believed' that the earth was flat.  This proved to be a false belief once evidence was obtained to show that it is an oblate spheroid, (not "round").  Neither "disbelief" nor "belief" are 'mythical' in and of themselves; one can only believe or disbelief _something_ which is mythical.



Like-wise most people are considered guilty until proven innocent; many like yourself support theoretic (assumed, mythical) evidences.



Guilt or innocence isn't 'mythical' either.  Theories are not 'mythical' since this does not encompass the meaning of "mythic".  Look it up for yourself as you do not appear to understand the meaning of that word.



eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."

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You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.



An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.



That is an incorrect definition of "atheist".  Many atheists oppose the ignorance of religious believers who choose to believe despite the complete lack of evidence to support their baseless beliefs.  What is being disregarded by atheism in general is a foundationless claim that there is a "god".



To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.



What religious believers choose to believe is of no significant consequence to those who reject such irrationality since atheists generally do not believe in the xtian "satan" either.  As a consequence of rejecting both beliefs, ("god" and "satan"), neither is "served" by atheists.



Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)



Over-simplification is generally the product of a simple mind.  In this instance, basing what is "right and wrong" and specious religious beliefs isn't rational.  This is due to the process of 'faith' being bereft of reason.  Most atheists 'disbelieve' the baseless claims of religionists because no supporting evidence is provided for such claims.  Conversely, there is no logical requirement to provide evidence for a 'disbelief' because of the inherent logical fallacy of 'proving a negative assertion'.



One has to believe in order to accept or deny.

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That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.


Belief is twofold, but its rational. For you to deny or accept something you must hold some sort of belief.
Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...


Belief, (without supporting evidence), is not rational.  For someone to accept the validity of "something", one requires either evidence _or_ "belief".  If acceptence is based upon supporting evidence, no belief is required, (the evidence being sufficient to support the premise).  If acceptance is based upon belief/faith alone, (e.g., a lack of supporting evidence), then one has chosen to make an irrational decision.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2012, 04:34:28 pm »
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.



Just wanted to give you an opportunity to clarify something there; you assert that "satan", (a xtian conception of an "archangel"), is "the atheist god".  This is despite theological claims that "archangels" aren't defined as "gods" and, that atheists don't "serve" or believe in "gods".  It is possible that you are unable to comprehend that a lack of belief isn't a 'belief' itself.  Regardless, it is fortunate that others can discern the difference.
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2012, 09:38:07 pm »
hmmm not sure if this is a test of faith or what.  But I so gotta believe in the spirit of the jolly elf St. Nick or else the next thing you will be telling me is that there is no Easter Bunny and I have seen the bunny.  Course he looked a lot like a Jack Rabbit but the goodies were still just as good.

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2012, 02:25:34 pm »

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)

Belief is twofold, but its rational.

Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...

what...WHAT???   Nonsensical yik-yak...

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.

Lol,
No need for Wiki we all have access to it.
Letís use common sense - both parties hold firm to their belief
Atheist: I don't believe in God
Believer: I believe in God
In the minds of both they're way is right, whichever way you desire to put it.
Itís a choice in saying my belief lies elsewhere.

It's not an absence of belief unless you're just a contrarian.
This also describes the operations of Satan (Fallen Angel) who seek take Godís (recognition, subservient) glory by contrariwise attempts/means. As stated above with the atheist and the Believer.

"Make the most of every opportunity"

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2012, 03:27:23 pm »
Sure there is, the Mother is the Santa and the father is the Claus, put them together and you have Santa Claus. :D

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #80 on: January 07, 2012, 03:35:19 pm »
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care...... we know santa isnt real..

do you wanna argue? or make money? falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^... you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..

while i make money while i sleep you guys keep on arguing which is sad...

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2012, 04:34:48 pm »
WHAT??????? No Santa???? :'( :'( :'( I can't go on!

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2012, 04:39:44 pm »
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care......we know santa isnt real..
WHO guys are you giving the "OKAY" to for arguing with the two losers? (Not sure if I AM cleared for this activity or not?)

falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^...
So....who exactly do you refer to as just "falcon"
And I've never seen anyone here called falcon JR.... :dontknow: who the heck is that??

you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..
Right then, because calling people (or falcons/junior falcons, for that matter) LOSERS wouldn't be intended as an insult at all, would it? (SORRY...PPLE)

while i make money while i sleep you guys keep on arguing
WOW! REALLY- While you SLEEP?? You are pretty good at this whole FC thing, huh?


which is sad...
Why is it sad?? For who....you? Will It disturb your sleep, maybe? Or affect all the money you make while asleep?
Gosh I hope not..that would be a shame if your sleep or your income suffered because others continued to argue.....and with LOSERS on top of it. 
Or sad for the people who insist on arguing because......you KNOW that they NEED to be making money, and not pissing time away arguing, or something like that? Well that is REALLY very nice of you to be concerned about your fellow FC-ers income.

Okay then sammy.....sweet dreams! Hope that your hours asleep = mountains of cash!  :)   
                    
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2012, 04:44:21 pm »
WHAT??????? No Santa???? :'( :'( :'( I can't go on!

Come on, Lindaroof!! Hang on, you will make it! I know you can do it.....

And remember there's still Chuck Norris, and Pinky, the invisible unicorn! There IS hope!
                    
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2012, 05:23:53 pm »
 :heart:I truly don't think sooo....If there is a Santa, then why do ones parents gooo out, pay for gifts ,then put a man( who you have never truly seen)"santa" on the gift....santa is taking credit for something someone else has done....that includes the easter bunny, tooth fairy,....then they lie to their children and say santa was here ....down a chimney, he couldn,t possibly fit...go figure.

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2012, 05:48:09 pm »
Letís use common sense



Yeah, and logic - both would be a change of pace for you.



- both parties hold firm to their belief
Atheist: I don't believe in God
Believer: I believe in God



The significant difference which continues to escape you is that disbelief is a lack of belief, it is not a "belief" itself.


In the minds of both they're way is right, whichever way you desire to put it.
Itís a choice in saying my belief lies elsewhere.



Your belief lies here, there, elsewhere and everywhere; it's built upon lies, (plagiarizing previous pagan beliefs, etc.).



It's not an absence of belief unless you're just a contrarian.



It's an absence of belief according to the definition of atheism, not 'contrarianism'.



This also describes the operations of Satan (Fallen Angel) who seek take Godís (recognition, subservient) glory by contrariwise attempts/means. As stated above with the atheist and the Believer.




However, you stated that "satan is the atheist god", which is false on two counts.  The first being that atheists believe in no "gods", by definition.  The second fallacy being that baseless beliefs, ("operations of satan" et al), derived from other baseless beliefs are merely second-generation nonsense.
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2012, 05:53:30 pm »
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care...... we know santa isnt real..



Obviously, you do "care" enough to interject your passive-aggressive insults into the exchange.



do you wanna argue? or make money? falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^... you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..



You've just insulted two members of FC who are participating in a discussion forum just like you are.  Given your previous comments, no doubt you may believe that this isn't a two-way street which applies to you as well.  No one is preventing anyone else on FC from making what money they can here.

 
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2012, 06:22:59 pm »

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
the atheist God.

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
Lol,
No need for Wiki we all have access to it.

Yes but some of us must not ever use it, or a dictionary, or anything that gives us actual definitions of words (that's okay then just make up your own and post that)


Letís use common sense
Alright.......but you go first, K?

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God. 

but SOMETIMES instead
   
Atheist: I don't believe in God 
                    
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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2012, 08:05:06 pm »
There will always be a Santa Claus. There is always some one out there willing to take on that roll when needed the most
 :angel11:

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Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2012, 09:00:04 pm »
hell naw ... wish ha was realllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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