This topic is locked, no replies allowed. Inaccurate or out-of-date info may be present.

  • Print

  • Immigrants in America 3 2
Rating:  
Topic: Immigrants in America  (Read 5636 times)

unojuno

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 179 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 0x
Immigrants in America
« on: January 30, 2012, 02:49:36 pm »
Such a HOT topic these days.  What is the consensus of opinion on this site??  Immigrants made this great nation, and though it seems with the passage of time (and especially since 9/11), they are less then welcomed.  I personally came to the States 37 yrs ago and I knew within a year that this would be my permanent home.  I did it the legal way, but unfortunately there thousands upon thousands who didn't and, because of their illegal status, are now facing deportation to their homeland, even though they may have children born here.  Should amnesty be granted to those hardworking, law-abiding folks whose only charge is seeking a better life for their family?  I  say lets' give them a chance to live in this land, and focus our attention on those illegals who are convicted felons who have nothing to offer but a burden on law enforcement and law-abiding taxpayers!!!

animikokala

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 734 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 03:31:28 pm »
Such a HOT topic these days.  What is the consensus of opinion on this site??  Immigrants made this great nation, and though it seems with the passage of time (and especially since 9/11), they are less then welcomed.  I personally came to the States 37 yrs ago and I knew within a year that this would be my permanent home.  I did it the legal way, but unfortunately there thousands upon thousands who didn't and, because of their illegal status, are now facing deportation to their homeland, even though they may have children born here.  Should amnesty be granted to those hardworking, law-abiding folks whose only charge is seeking a better life for their family?  I  say lets' give them a chance to live in this land, and focus our attention on those illegals who are convicted felons who have nothing to offer but a burden on law enforcement and law-abiding taxpayers!!!

If they are illegal immigrants, I wouldn't qualify them as law-abiding.  What's the point of having any laws at all if people are going to arbitrarily choose the laws they are going to follow?

falcon9

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Platinum Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 9741 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 05:14:46 pm »
Such a HOT topic these days.  What is the consensus of opinion on this site??  Immigrants made this great nation, and though it seems with the passage of time (and especially since 9/11), they are less then welcomed.  I personally came to the States 37 yrs ago and I knew within a year that this would be my permanent home.  I did it the legal way, but unfortunately there thousands upon thousands who didn't and, because of their illegal status, are now facing deportation to their homeland, even though they may have children born here.  Should amnesty be granted to those hardworking, law-abiding folks whose only charge is seeking a better life for their family?  I  say lets' give them a chance to live in this land, and focus our attention on those illegals who are convicted felons who have nothing to offer but a burden on law enforcement and law-abiding taxpayers!!!



If they are illegal immigrants, I wouldn't qualify them as law-abiding.  What's the point of having any laws at all if people are going to arbitrarily choose the laws they are going to follow?


I fully agree, animikokola.  Especially if they arrived illegally just to have 'anchor babies' here in order to remain in the US, they are not "immigrants"; they're stowaways.  Recall what used to happen to stowaways back when.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

Abrupt

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Silver Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1034 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 1x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 06:57:01 pm »
I have found that those that cannot hold to the smaller rules/laws will likewise have no qualms about breaking the bigger ones when the opportunity presents itself.  As a general rule if I cannot trust someone with the small issues I can never trust them with the big issues.
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

Darekatie

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 26 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 07:59:46 pm »
I don't have an issue with the LEGAL immigrants who have chosen to move here in hopes of a better life. I do, however, have an issue with illegal immigrants coming into this country. Its hard enough for Americans who were born and raised in this country to find work and support their families without illegal immigrants (from any country) coming in and taking our jobs and houses.
 
I'm all for LEGAL immigrants chasing "The American Dream", just not the illegal ones.

sigmapi1501

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Silver Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1191 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 45x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 09:52:02 pm »
I'm for amnesty.  Simply because the resources needed to hunt down people and deport them could be used better elsewhere. If you are for deporting non residents, then encourage your elected officials to go after the people giving them employment.

Nothing will stop them physically from coming here. No fence, no armed border guards.  The only way to stop them from coming here illegally is to go after the pople who hire them.  If a person faced serious fines/jail time for hiring an illegal and it was ACTUALLY ENFORCED that would be the end of the problem.

vickysue

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Platinum Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 4927 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 135x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 11:04:14 am »
I lived in a border town and let me tell you it is a major problem. They pay no medical, have babies get on welfare have more babies. The crime also goes way up and where ever they live starts too look like the county dump. If they want to live here do it the right way. Have no problems with it. here were time i would see as many as 20 trying to slip into the u.s at a time. Thank God for the border patrol, as i lived out in the country and could get scary at times.

natashaspy

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Gold Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 2964 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 62x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 01:09:33 pm »
i really have no problem with the legal immigrants.  the only ones i have problems with are the ones that come across the border illegally, then seem to get the govt. help that is declined to the people that are citizens and have worked for years paying into the system.  if they come over legally and pay the same taxes and follow the same laws as we do, then as far as i'm concerned they would be more than welcome

plennis

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Platinum Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 4294 (since 2012)
  • Thanked: 150x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 01:57:39 pm »
If you came here legally, then you want to be a law abiding citizen.  NO PROBLEM.  Every few years we give amnesty to everyone who has been here working and can prove it for a while.  I don't think that is right, the immigration system quotas were set up so that they could all be absorbed into the country without causing problems.  It is not right that a woman drags across the border illegally, has a child and then because the child is born here she gets to stay.  The child of illegals should not be given citizenship.  Most other countries they are NOT.  Most other countries you face very heavy fines and or imprisonment for coming in or staying past visa time limits.  I am a Notary Public, the illegal documentation   you can buy, are very hard to detect as false, and I do it for a living.  So the average person has a really tough time  with the paperwork.  Also, many illegals workers pay into the system but are afraid to access it.  I know of one company that hires illegal workers (sometimes several on one time card) and then every few months calls immigration when it is payroll time.  So many of them are getting taken advantage of too.

tzs

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Silver Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1649 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 13x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 09:09:38 am »
Immigrants just add to the flavor here in america, If there were no immigrants, don't ya think things would be a little boring? We need this. And don't talk to me about crime, because reguardless of who crosses that border, crime is always a constant.
TOOL-DEFTONES-MASTADON-NIN-DOWN-MOTORHEAD-RATM
SOULFLY-ROOTS-PANTERA(RIP)-JANE'SADDICTION-CLUTCH
BJORK-KATEBUSH-ALICEINCHAINS(OLD/NEW)
BOBBYBLUEBLAND-CHARLESMINGUS-CLASSICALMUSIC-BILLHICKS LordoftheRingsTheMatrixKingpin,Mybaseguitar,Mybowlingballs,300game
ourchild,Myhusband=My life in a nutshell

Thesaboteur

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 45 (since 2012)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 08:28:04 pm »
Would be fine if we could actually help them.

Snoozey

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 05:20:36 pm »
i really have no problem with the legal immigrants.  the only ones i have problems with are the ones that come across the border illegally, then seem to get the govt. help that is declined to the people that are citizens and have worked for years paying into the system.  if they come over legally and pay the same taxes and follow the same laws as we do, then as far as i'm concerned they would be more than welcome

This is exactly right. There are many illegal immigrants who come here and receive money to go to school and get a degree, and who have children here so that they can get money from welfare. The current set up of the funding in the US is broken, and it needs to be reformed so that real citizens and legal immigrants are the only ones who receive the benefits which are supposed to be limited to the US citizens.

Cuppycake

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Gold Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 2910 (since 2008)
  • Thanked: 26x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 08:48:24 am »
Such a HOT topic these days.  What is the consensus of opinion on this site??  Immigrants made this great nation, and though it seems with the passage of time (and especially since 9/11), they are less then welcomed.  I personally came to the States 37 yrs ago and I knew within a year that this would be my permanent home.  I did it the legal way, but unfortunately there thousands upon thousands who didn't and, because of their illegal status, are now facing deportation to their homeland, even though they may have children born here.  Should amnesty be granted to those hardworking, law-abiding folks whose only charge is seeking a better life for their family?  I  say lets' give them a chance to live in this land, and focus our attention on those illegals who are convicted felons who have nothing to offer but a burden on law enforcement and law-abiding taxpayers!!!

If they are illegal immigrants, I wouldn't qualify them as law-abiding.  What's the point of having any laws at all if people are going to arbitrarily choose the laws they are going to follow?
Indeed. It constitutes unarmed invasion to be completely honest. I for one am sick to death of it and think war should be declared on our part as it already has on their end!

Cuppycake

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Gold Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 2910 (since 2008)
  • Thanked: 26x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 08:50:34 am »
Immigrants just add to the flavor here in america, If there were no immigrants, don't ya think things would be a little boring? We need this. And don't talk to me about crime, because reguardless of who crosses that border, crime is always a constant.
Says the person that probably got here illegally themselves...

gamerpeeps

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 180 (since 2012)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Immigrants in America
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 09:23:28 am »
Immigration amnesty is a sore subject with me! My parents came to this country in '49 from Ukraine, legally. America IS the melting pot and should welcome LEGAL immigrants. Every few years, the government decides to grant amnesty to those who are not here legally and it is wrong. If they keep giving amnesty, why should anyone try to be here legally when in a few years all will be forgiven. We have immegration laws and they should be followed! NO more amnesty!

  • Print
 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
immigrants

Started by TGA3644 « 1 2 ... 8 9 » in Suggestions

130 Replies
26399 Views
Last post June 20, 2010, 01:56:38 pm
by sigmapi1501
21 Replies
4494 Views
Last post December 03, 2010, 07:32:33 pm
by Elizabethar
0 Replies
676 Views
Last post November 22, 2011, 04:16:48 pm
by MudValley
0 Replies
539 Views
Last post September 03, 2012, 05:11:10 pm
by tashamjoy
3 Replies
577 Views
Last post April 01, 2021, 09:40:30 am
by linderlizzie