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Lets Be Honest About Praying
« on: February 01, 2012, 08:18:42 pm »
When you tell someone I'm praying for you, or We'll pray for you, do you really do it?

I say my prayers when I lay down and try my absolute best to pray for other people that I know are struggling, I do it on the day that I hear of their issue, maybe the next 2-3 days but after that I just move on then I'll be thinking a few days later like crud, wonder how they're doing and feel bad for not continuing to pray. :wave:


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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 08:49:21 pm »
I have to admit, I don't always exactly say my regular daily prayer and include the one I promised. But at the time I tell the person I will, I sometimes do a quick silent short one right then, Something like, "Lord, bless and keep this child". Since God listens to us always, I think that counts. It's a good habit to get into, in case in you busy life you later forget. :heart:

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 01:46:44 am »
Since God listens to us always ...



The thread title mentions honesty; this comment reflects a forlorn hope, rather than that.  This isn't an opinion concerning 'prayer' per se but, an observation of the complete lack of evidence for the claim that an unspecified 'deity' listens to them.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 08:10:56 am »
When you tell someone I'm praying for you, or We'll pray for you, do you really do it?

No, people who say this don't do it; it's just something they say to put the absolute least effort forward to pretend they're doing something about a situation.  Or they say it to be a self-righteous *bleep* to people they "pity" (like atheists).

While we're being "honest" about prayer -- you can get the same results praying to a jug of milk.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 08:42:18 am »
I'm not a big prayer, but if I tell someone "Ill pray for you" then I'll do it.

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 09:06:32 am »
Yeah, Its total crap man, they will forget 5 minutes later-lol!!! :angel12:
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 09:13:31 am »
It depends on the person who offers to pray. Some people will truly and sincerely pray for you and some won't. I say why offer a pray when you know you are not going to do it?

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 03:16:38 pm »
Or they say it to be a self-righteous *bleep* to people they "pity" (like atheists).




This occurs often enough to warrant a counter-response like, "may you be mentioned in dispatches to satan".



While we're being "honest" about prayer -- you can get the same results praying to a jug of milk.



Exactly, and this would be just as an efficient use of time spent.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 07:13:20 pm »
Or they say it to be a self-righteous *bleep* to people they "pity" (like atheists).

This occurs often enough to warrant a counter-response like, "may you be mentioned in dispatches to satan".


lol  I love it!   :thumbsup:
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 08:25:08 pm »
I like to think it works. I pray to god and I think it is a give/take situation. He gives me certain advantages in life for occasions. Then he makes my life hell lol.

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 09:03:31 pm »
I like to think it works.



And yet, such an opinion does not constitute evidence that it "works", (e.g., provides attributible results).



I pray to god and I think it is a give/take situation. He gives me certain advantages in life for occasions. Then he makes my life hell lol.



Making unsubstantiated attributions of phenomenon to supernatural causes promotes dishonesty in the form of 'wishful thinking'.  Although one may hold such empty opinions internally, as soon as they are made external, (posted as debatable opinions), they may be challenged.  Whether those who hold to empty 'faith' are up to such challenges is a matter of individual self-honesty.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 07:34:56 am »
When I say I will pray for someone, then I will pray for them.  I am strong about keeping to what I say (one reason I don't threaten (often) people is because I force myself to keep my word).  Everyone that knows me well would likely agree that "If he says he is going to do something then he is going to do it".  I also don't make a habit of promising on something I am unsure of being capable of doing and if forced into a yes or no answer on such a choice I will almost always choose no.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 09:28:47 am »
     My cell phone has a place for reminders, I use it to keep my prayer list.  I don't tell someone that I am going to pray for them and then not do it, but I do know that there are people for which "You're in my prayers" has become just something to say because they think it's "sympathetic" or makes others feel better.  My prayer list includes many that I have never told I pray for because a little prayer isn't going to hurt them none and since they don't believe in God anyway--- there's no need for them to know.  It's been reward enough when some of these people have found me years later and let me know that they are into God now and have changed their way of living.  Prayer changes things, even people that thought they'd never change.       
     As for the above quote "This occurs often enough to warrant a counter-response like, "may you be mentioned in dispatches to satan"--- Why waste time "dispatching" to second best?  Satan can't touch what belongs to God.

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 10:10:14 am »
As for the above quote "This occurs often enough to warrant a counter-response like, "may you be mentioned in dispatches to satan"--- Why waste time "dispatching" to second best?  Satan can't touch what belongs to God.

It's meant to be a joke, as non-Christians are often accused of being in cahoots with the devil.

As for your statement that Satan can't touch what belongs to god, this is obviously untrue based on your beliefs, because you claim people belong to god, but also blame the devil of messing with said people anytime something goes wrong.   ???
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 10:15:56 am »
Totally believe in prayers. God may not always seem to give what everyone wants but he has his reasons.

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