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fc2

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Be nice to have some land given back to me, but with the assimilation process going the way it is. I'd probably lose all the land right back to the dominant society in some form or other. LOL
Perhaps.

I have a friend from the Yankton Rez who was telling me recently that altho she has use of an allotment, which is rightfully due her, she will never have an inch of land in her name. Therefor, at the whim of powers that be, it could be snatched from her at any time. Believe me...it happens....alot.

Agreed. Supposedly, I have land too. About anywhere from $.09 cents to $.20 cents and it fluctuates every time I receive a letter from the Dept. of the Interior. Basically, a few farmers are either leasing renting this land of mine of which I've been sharing with various cousins on my reservation in South Dakota. Will I ever get hundreds or thousands of dollars from the dominant society, I believe not! Theres too many people living on this continent for what little land I have to even make a bit of difference to me. Jokingly, I always say, "In about another 500 to 1000 years from now maybe I'll receive some monies?" Thats how the government works in this country, they control all the money and how its distributed out. And so far only the wealthy ruling tribal families get 1st shot at "HOW" all the land money given to them from past land thefts from the gov.t thats supposed to get split up to lesser tribal family members. Go figure!? LOL  :bs: Too much red tape and paperwork to even get excited or hope about getting monies for tribal lands nowadays for some tribes. But it'd be a miracle if I ever got a check from the Dept. of Interior for $100.00


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I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

This could be due to the fact that you ain't a native american tribal enrollee member of a federally recognized tribe in north america? But then ignorant european americans always have that gripe that they don't get money for free from the us. gov.t and no pun intended  :thumbsup:

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I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

This could be due to the fact that you ain't a native american tribal enrollee member of a federally recognized tribe in north america?

Are you?  If so, which tribe?

But then ignorant european americans always have that gripe that they don't get money for free from the us. gov.t and no pun intended  :thumbsup:

He didn't mention anything about getting "money for free from" the U.S. government like various tribes are subsidized.  Also, you're assuming his ancestors came from Europe, (and that he's ignorant - of what?), when they could have come from anywhere.  Just like yours could have wandered across a previous land-bridge from Siberia, the Korean peninsula, canoed over from Polynesia, or drifted north from south & central america, (which means that they weren't "native" to northern america either - so who's ignorant of past migrations again?).
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

This could be due to the fact that you ain't a native american tribal enrollee member of a federally recognized tribe in north america?

Are you?  If so, which tribe?

But then ignorant european americans always have that gripe that they don't get money for free from the us. gov.t and no pun intended  :thumbsup:

He didn't mention anything about getting "money for free from" the U.S. government like various tribes are subsidized.  Also, you're assuming his ancestors came from Europe, (and that he's ignorant - of what?), when they could have come from anywhere.  Just like yours could have wandered across a previous land-bridge from Siberia, the Korean peninsula, canoed over from Polynesia, or drifted north from south & central america, (which means that they weren't "native" to northern america either - so who's ignorant of past migrations again?).

LOL

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I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

This could be due to the fact that you ain't a native american tribal enrollee member of a federally recognized tribe in north america?

Are you?  If so, which tribe?

But then ignorant european americans always have that gripe that they don't get money for free from the us. gov.t and no pun intended  :thumbsup:

He didn't mention anything about getting "money for free from" the U.S. government like various tribes are subsidized.  Also, you're assuming his ancestors came from Europe, (and that he's ignorant - of what?), when they could have come from anywhere.  Just like yours could have wandered across a previous land-bridge from Siberia, the Korean peninsula, canoed over from Polynesia, or drifted north from south & central america, (which means that they weren't "native" to northern america either - so who's ignorant of past migrations again?).

LOL

That's your reply, an inane textual laugh?  Why bother if you aren't going to addressed any points raised?
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I often wonder about this land bridge thing.....who's to say that it was a one way street? Just a thought.

Many of the indigenous of this continent, consider it all as "Turtle Island" while recognizing territories borders are just imaginary lines came up by very un-imaginative people IMHO.

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I often wonder about this land bridge thing.....who's to say that it was a one way street? Just a thought.

It's possible that some wandered back eventually however, the understanding is that they were following game and the weather was better the further into "turtle island" they wandered.


Many of the indigenous of this continent, consider it all as "Turtle Island" while recognizing territories borders are just imaginary lines came up by very un-imaginative people IMHO.

Well, considering that neither north, south or central america are islands, it was kind of "imaginative" to call them that.
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I often wonder about this land bridge thing.....who's to say that it was a one way street? Just a thought.

It's possible that some wandered back eventually however, the understanding is that they were following game and the weather was better the further into "turtle island" they wandered.


Many of the indigenous of this continent, consider it all as "Turtle Island" while recognizing territories borders are just imaginary lines came up by very un-imaginative people IMHO.

Well, considering that neither north, south or central america are islands, it was kind of "imaginative" to call them that.
There are many sites that have been shown to pre-date the land bridge by a long shot.

See now it seems that you would mold our perceptions and interpretations of things into a mindset that is very foreign to us. We just look at a lot of things differently than the masses may see them. Seeing things differently is, in my opinion, often a good thing. None of us know it all, and knowledge passed is a true gift indeed. I must clarify "passed". I mean offered, not forced, which is another beast altogether.

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I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

This could be due to the fact that you ain't a native american tribal enrollee member of a federally recognized tribe in north america?

Are you?  If so, which tribe?

But then ignorant european americans always have that gripe that they don't get money for free from the us. gov.t and no pun intended  :thumbsup:

He didn't mention anything about getting "money for free from" the U.S. government like various tribes are subsidized.  Also, you're assuming his ancestors came from Europe, (and that he's ignorant - of what?), when they could have come from anywhere.  Just like yours could have wandered across a previous land-bridge from Siberia, the Korean peninsula, canoed over from Polynesia, or drifted north from south & central america, (which means that they weren't "native" to northern america either - so who's ignorant of past migrations again?).

LOL

That's your reply, an inane textual laugh?  Why bother if you aren't going to addressed any points raised?

you've got all the answers to life don'tcha falconey lol ;D
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you've got all the answers to life don'tcha falconey lol ;D

What's that got to do with the context of what was posted, 'twinkie'?
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well...it's a very small step in the right direction...
 
what's in it for obama? :binkybaby:

possible 2nd term with a few more ndn voters? :bootyshake:

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you've got all the answers to life don'tcha falconey lol ;D

What's that got to do with the context of what was posted, 'twinkie'?

LOL. itz got everything 2 do with it. if u missed that 1 f9 i'd get back to ur surveys  :wave: if i were u.

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LOL. itz got everything 2 do with it. if u missed that 1 ... 

Do you even know what 'context' means?
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I applaude his long overdue action. That being said, by so doing, he has increased his voter base for the upcoming election. I'm not saying the man doesn't care, I'm just not sure he would have done it if there wasn't something in it for him. Same goes for why he is pushing to have illegal aliens made citizens if they have resided in the US for a certain amount of time..build up that voter base. This is worrisome on two levels. One, all the immigrants from long ago wanted to be here so badly that they were willing to jump throught all the hoops that the law requires..learn english, learn about US History and more....Now Obama wants to just hand Citizenship out like candy for the purpose of a percieved expanded voter base? Two, the most prevalent illegals in the US are Hispanics...Culturally hard working and industrious. Why is that worriesome? Because they, and all other persons with a strong work ethic, will be stabbed in the back if and when Obama is able to push and fully implement Obamacare. How? Because Obamcare is a thinly veiled massive, socialist giveaway program, that will benefit the sloths in our country more than anyone else..and NEWS FLASH: The people who work the hardest will be penalized by having their hard earned dollars taken away by the huge tax increases required to fund the program.
Beware: Do not have the wool pulled over your eyes. There is no free lunch from the Goverment, that is unless you are a lowlife leech who sees no benefit in being productve, and who sees giving birth as additional income.  

I worked in the welfare system for 30 years and hard working people who have fallen on hard times, who have no income, but have personal property that they have worked years to get, cannot get help unless they strip themselves of all they have worked for. They are honest they fess up to what they have and get disqualified.
The pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers, scam artists etc know the system and will leave their thick gold bracelets necklaces and rings at home when they come to the welfare office and they and keep their real property and luxury vehicles in other persons names to not be traced. Because their livliehood is "the hustle" they know how to hustle the Government too. All this will happen with Obamacare too, AND IF YOU ARE A WORKER YOU WILL PAY. I am married to a welfare fraud investigator, and I can tell you fraud is rampant in all government programs, but hard to prove or stop.

To a hard working person like myself the nine most terrifying words in the english language are, "I'M FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND I'M HERE TO HELP"  Come November, If you belong to a group that he has done some benefit for, appreciate the justice of it, But don't be so stupid as to not see what lies beneath!! And if you are a slug and sloth and dont care because you want the free handout, come out of your selfishness for a moment and think of your kids and future granbabies....Maybe they will object to your unproductive way of life and go the other way. In that case they will be suffering economically long after you are gone. That's all I have to say!

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LOL. itz got everything 2 do with it. if u missed that 1 ... 

Do you even know what 'context' means?

in all of your jargon english grammer intellectual type written replies I'm surprised you don't comprehend jargoned slang? LOL. Do u evn know what 'slang' means?

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