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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2012, 05:53:03 pm »
James Cameron was a director for "The Titanic" and then he decided to direct a movie about the parting of the Red Sea and finding the tomb of Jesus.  His efforts have the scholars laughing, his "facts" don't add up.  They don't add up historically or Biblically.  Mel might have made a movie about a Bible character...it doesn't add anything of any particular interest to this thread as there have been many movies made on various Bible characters including one about Jezebel played by Betty Davis...

While I can't speak for Cameron, I still somehow doubt that he was trying to be historically or, factually accurate in the flim's portrayal of a fictional event.

How was your weekend?  You having nice, sunny, warm weather yet? All we have is cold, gloomy and rainy days.

It's been too hot but, I don't think an offer to swap temperatures would be effective, (also, there's that 'well now it's too hot' aspect).  Personally, I enjoy cooler rainy days, (and I soundly miss them from the Puget Sound area).

I've noticed you have another FC thread devoted just to you and some new admirers fans...lucky you!! ;D 

Yep, an associate of mine insightfully-observed in reference to that effect; 'a fire draws moths and other bugs'.  Everyone laughed.

My weekend wasn't that exciting.  Have had a BAD sinus infection since Friday, (I think my immune system is entirely shot) but had to go to work anyway.  Had my promotion made official finally (will be 'in training' until June) but it was 'bittersweet' because my friend was "let go" due to "company b.s."  We're all mad, sad and miss her.

There's some new form of influenza going around, (again), which takes fairly strong antibiotics to kick too.  I'm told that this strain can result in sinus infections and even pnemonia.

The sort of 'office politics' you hint at occurs everyone but, seems to be more pronounced where women in the office are concerned, (this was not intended as sexist; on the contrary, the reference was to how women interact with otehr women in the workplace ... if you know what I mean?).
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2012, 05:55:16 pm »
I know...I'm a procrastinator...   I was told there's a 2 month wait and that was a few weeks ago, still haven't made an appointment.   :-   I worry that the doctor is going to run some tests, slap me with an outrageous bill and tell me that I died three years ago...lol

Come to think of it, that _does_ seem to be the usual medical procedure all around.  Still, a "2 MONTH WAIT" for that!?!?  Outrageous.
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2012, 06:54:55 pm »
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While I can't speak for Cameron, I still somehow doubt that he was trying to be historically or, factually accurate in the flim's portrayal of a fictional event.

From what I've read about it, it seemed to be a hastily put-together for the money.  There seems to be people that think he would be "the authority" since "The Titanic" was such a hit.  Go figure...

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Yep, an associate of mine insightfully-observed in reference to that effect; 'a fire draws moths and other bugs'.  Everyone laughed.

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  Personally, I enjoy cooler rainy days, (and I soundly miss them from the Puget Sound area).
 
Alot of people here get very cranky when it's been rainy all week...it's not much fun dealing with them.  At least there's "Neuro Water" now, there's one with Vitamin D added, "sunshine in a bottle"...I tell these cranky people ever so subtly to get themselves some.

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There's some new form of influenza going around, (again), which takes fairly strong antibiotics to kick too.  I'm told that this strain can result in sinus infections and even pnemonia.

That's a relief...the flu is going around here too but no one said anything about sinus infections/pnemonia.  I had some flu-symptoms along with it and had wondered "what in-the-world".

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The sort of 'office politics' you hint at occurs everyone but, seems to be more pronounced where women in the office are concerned, (this was not intended as sexist; on the contrary, the reference was to how women interact with otehr women in the workplace ... if you know what I mean?).
Funny how you got that one "right on".   If we still had our male managers, I doubt this would have happened.  They didn't "play games", they were more fair.  They knew who worked and what kind of job they did and that's what mattered ...not petty games.

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Come to think of it, that _does_ seem to be the usual medical procedure all around.  Still, a "2 MONTH WAIT" for that!?!?  Outrageous.
It's probably just a 2 month wait for ME.  We have alot of medical people come into my workplace and I tend to give them a "hard time" like I do with everyone else (all in joking good fun of course).  I'm kinda scared what they'd do with all their "pins & needles" if they ever got the chance to get ahold of me...lol  :binkybaby:






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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2012, 09:56:10 pm »
From what I've read about it, it seemed to be a hastily put-together for the money.  There seems to be people that think he would be "the authority" since "The Titanic" was such a hit.  Go figure...

That's one 'o them there appeals to authority alright.  Now I'm not even sure Cameron got the historical, (and other), details right for Titanic - and that was much more recent.

Alot of people here get very cranky when it's been rainy all week...it's not much fun dealing with them.  At least there's "Neuro Water" now, there's one with Vitamin D added, "sunshine in a bottle"...I tell these cranky people ever so subtly to get themselves some.

No doubt at least some people here believe that I could use a barrel/swimming pool full of that Neuro Water?  :-X

...the flu is going around here too but no one said anything about sinus infections/pnemonia.  I had some flu-symptoms along with it and had wondered "what in-the-world".

Better to check and not have than to not check and have it?

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The sort of 'office politics' you hint at occurs everyone but, seems to be more pronounced where women in the office are concerned, (this was not intended as sexist; on the contrary, the reference was to how women interact with otehr women in the workplace ... if you know what I mean?).

Funny how you got that one "right on". 

Not all that difficult to assess; I've experienced very similar situations time and again.
  
If we still had our male managers, I doubt this would have happened.  They didn't "play games", they were more fair.  They knew who worked and what kind of job they did and that's what mattered ...not petty games.

Not necessarily; unfortunately, there are also game-playing male managers out there, (maybe not as many as female - I haven't done any statistical research in that regard).

It's probably just a 2 month wait for ME.  We have alot of medical people come into my workplace and I tend to give them a "hard time" like I do with everyone else (all in joking good fun of course).  I'm kinda scared what they'd do with all their "pins & needles" if they ever got the chance to get ahold of me...lol  :binkybaby:

That's even worse, not to mention unprofessional.  Some people manage to arrive on-scene without a sense of humor.








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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2012, 03:44:03 pm »
I saw this quote on another thread and I'm re-posting it here: Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 08:17:49 pm Message ID: 529601 Quote byd1cheetah

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I stop by for light chat, helpful info, and sometimes to vent when I've had a crazy time on the offers.  I don't come here to get caught up in heated debate, or a fact finding mission about everything from the history of politics to the obstacles of the reality of faith.  I comment when it's light and friendly, but don't have the time or endurance to debate another person's beliefs.

  If that's what others come here for, then they can have at it.

"Light & friendly" chit-chat is about all I have time & endurance for these days as well.  I just don't have the time for the research needed to keep the debate/discussion going in d&d.  I'll lock this topic if anyone wishes, for now it's open if there's anyone else that would wish to keep on it.  Once in awhile I pop in d&d but it's not where I wish to be spending so much time.  I've mentioned before in posts that I just don't discuss religious topics ALL the time with my friends.  They know what/why I believe and if they have questions, they know I'm there for them.  They know I care about them and they know that I believe in them.  I have fun with them and enjoy whatever time we have.  Same for FC-friends.  

 
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No doubt at least some people here believe that I could use a barrel/swimming pool full of that Neuro Water?  
I hope you didn't think that I was implying that you needed some of that water, I have not found you to be cranky at all, in spite of the b.s. on FC lately.  (IMO, that "thread"-bashing going on against you needs to stop.)


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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #80 on: May 01, 2012, 03:58:38 pm »
"Light & friendly" chit-chat is about all I have time & endurance for these days as well.  I just don't have the time for the research needed to keep the debate/discussion going in d&d.  I'll lock this topic if anyone wishes, for now it's open if there's anyone else that would wish to keep on it.  Once in awhile I pop in d&d but it's not where I wish to be spending so much time.  

That's understandable as it can be time-consuming when there are other things that need doing.  However, that's not to imply that this is a 'agrre to disagree' situation because that's never my policy.  Other than that, you can leave the thread open to allow anyone else who has something to add to the d+d to do so as far as I'm concerned.

As for falcon9's quote, "No doubt at least some people here believe that I could use a barrel/swimming pool full of that Neuro Water?"  

I hope you didn't think that I was implying that you needed some of that water, I have not found you to be cranky at all, in spite of the b.s. on FC lately.  

I didn't intend to necessarily imply that by not naming 'nyms however, you had previously 'hinted' at it a time or two. ;)

(IMO, that "thread"-bashing going on against you needs to stop.)

Well, this isn't the first time that's happened, (it may be the 2nd or 3rd on FC), but the last time it occurred, an FC moderator moved the thread from the off topic forum over here to d+d.  Apparently, the instigator of what the mod termed as a "calling-out" thread, (e.g., trolling someone), lacked the fortitude and courage of their 'convictions', (or maybe it was merely false bravdo, who knows?).  At any rate, the ones who initiate such "calling-out" threads can hardly expect anyone to fail to see the hypocrisy of doing so and then whining when they're slapped-down.
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2012, 04:06:08 pm »
As for falcon9's quote, "No doubt at least some people here believe that I could use a barrel/swimming pool full of that Neuro Water?"  

I hope you didn't think that I was implying that you needed some of that water, I have not found you to be cranky at all, in spite of the b.s. on FC lately.  

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I didn't intend to necessarily imply that by not naming 'nyms however, you had previously 'hinted' at it a time or two. ;)
not within the past couple of weeks, I haven't...not intentionally at any rate.

(IMO, that "thread"-bashing going on against you needs to stop.)

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Well, this isn't the first time that's happened, (it may be the 2nd or 3rd on FC), but the last time it occurred, an FC moderator moved the thread from the off topic forum over here to d+d.  Apparently, the instigator of what the mod termed as a "calling-out" thread, (e.g., trolling someone), lacked the fortitude and courage of their 'convictions', (or maybe it was merely false bravdo, who knows?).  At any rate, the ones who initiate such "calling-out" threads can hardly expect anyone to fail to see the hypocrisy of doing so and then whining when they're slapped-down.
I agree!! :thumbsup:

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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2012, 04:12:54 pm »
As for falcon9's quote, "No doubt at least some people here believe that I could use a barrel/swimming pool full of that Neuro Water?"  

I hope you didn't think that I was implying that you needed some of that water, I have not found you to be cranky at all, in spite of the b.s. on FC lately.  

I didn't intend to necessarily imply that by not naming 'nyms however, you had previously 'hinted' at it a time or two. ;)

not within the past couple of weeks, I haven't...not intentionally at any rate.

Subconsciously, while tipsy, under hypnosis, unintentionally ... it's okay, if "cranky" is the worse thing I get called on any given day, I can live with that.  :thumbsup:

(IMO, that "thread"-bashing going on against you needs to stop.)

Well, this isn't the first time that's happened, (it may be the 2nd or 3rd on FC), but the last time it occurred, an FC moderator moved the thread from the off topic forum over here to d+d.  Apparently, the instigator of what the mod termed as a "calling-out" thread, (e.g., trolling someone), lacked the fortitude and courage of their 'convictions', (or maybe it was merely false bravdo, who knows?).  At any rate, the ones who initiate such "calling-out" threads can hardly expect anyone to fail to see the hypocrisy of doing so and then whining when they're slapped-down.

I agree!! :thumbsup:

That's twice in one day, and from two, (maybe three), different people ... astounding, (given my alleged 'crankiness' and all).
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2012, 07:10:31 pm »
TRue archaeology supports the Bible. It's amazing how the two complement each other. Biblical history and archeaology can stand side by side.

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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2012, 07:34:42 pm »
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TRue archaeology supports the Bible. It's amazing how the two complement each other. Biblical history and archeaology can stand side by side.

A completely false statement from someone who obviously knows nothing about archaeology. Next time you should maybe read the thread, ok?

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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2012, 08:09:59 pm »
Typical arrogance. ::) The first several posts of this thread alone should be enough to silence critics.

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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2012, 10:54:43 pm »
Typical arrogance. ::) The first several posts of this thread alone should be enough to silence critics.

Typical arrogance caused by blind faith.  The bulk of the refutations should be enough to silence the superstitiously-religious, (if only more of them had functioning reasoning abilities - which demonstrably leaves "johnnie" out).
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2012, 11:01:47 pm »
TRue archaeology supports the Bible. It's amazing how the two complement each other. Biblical history and archeaology can stand side by side.

A completely false statement from someone who obviously knows nothing about archaeology. Next time you should maybe read the thread, ok?

Supposedly "true archeology" is presumed by xtians to be that which religiously-biased 'archeologists' force-fit to fictional biblical accounts. That's not archeology, it's closed-minded fundamentalism intended to support preconceived, (and ill-conceived notions).

The only "amazing" thing about such an empty proclamation from the "healthfreedom" 'nym would be the extent of their self-deception, were it not so rampant among the 'faith-blinded'.
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2012, 11:45:57 pm »
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Typical arrogance.  The first several posts of this thread alone should be enough to silence critics.

*sigh* As usual, you seem to favor spite rather than knowledge. Care to clarify what hasn't been addressed? Care to add to the debate+discussion or are you just going to cower away like the poor example of a christian you tend to be? Perhaps you should read your bible more. 1 Peter 3:15 . Now, kindly answer my question please...or back away while you incorrectly label people. We'll all know how strong you are in your beliefs then.  ;)
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Re: Archaeology and the Bible
« Reply #89 on: May 02, 2012, 12:03:16 am »
Typical arrogance.  The first several posts of this thread alone should be enough to silence critics.

Well someone didn't read the original posts...or just about anything in the thread afterwards!

Just to see what 'blind-johnnie' was being closed-minded about, I returned to the "first several posts of this thread".  It turns out that the first Seven posts were the original presentation from the OP, (without any objections, challenges or refutations posted until the eighth post on; whereupon 'jumbledjohnnie' apparently stopped reading).

Care to post any credible sources, or are you ['jumbledjohnnie'] going to back off like the typical weak poster you tend to be? Pick up a book, read the news, or do some basic research and debate or discuss with us in the future if you think you consider yourself able to do so. Because currently, with your immature tactics, you've displayed that you're a useless poster to be in this forum (you're hear to mock, and not to learn. How xtian of you).

If 'jumbledjohnnie' actually manages to attempt to produce ANY evidence whatsoever as sources, I would register extreme surprise.

I think you've ['jumbledjohnnie'] already shown enough humorous gullibility in this thread to damage the credibility of your beliefs. If you don't want to debate, it's understandable. You may say it's because of the freethinkers, but the real answer is obvious- you can't.

I can find no evidence, (in the form of archived posts), in which 'jumbledjohnnie' has ever "debated".  Oh, he's made empty proclamations and run away without backing them up with anything except his specious opinion; he's "bible-thumped", (quoted biblical passages which do not support his dubious positions), however these do not constitute hard evidence - being unsupported by factual evidence, (which brought us to this thread), and he's put those who debated/challenged/questioned assumptions/posted opposing viewpoints on the basis of reasoning on "ignore", (so that he alone wouldn't be able to even *see* the counter-arguments).  That's not "debating", it's weaseling out.
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