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[queenofnines]

The "CareBears" were created for "unbelievers"...[/i]        

Uh, the last time I checked, the Care Bears were created for children...

From your site:

Start with the name first. Who can deny the similarity between the name Care Bears and Carefours, the district of Port au Prince which is the heart of the Voodoo world? Can the cloud city of Care-a-Lot be anything but an idealized 'holy city' of the Lwa - a divine reflection of Carefours? Then consider some of the terminology. The Care Bears constantly want to 'Share until you care', just as the Lwa want to share the bodies of their worshipers. The Care Bears are constantly trying to be children's 'friends', just as the Voodoo Lwa are often referred to by their followers as 'friendly spirits' or just 'friends'.

Are you freakin' kidding me?!  With this kind of p i s s poor logic, ANYTHING can be interpreted as being "evil".  I can't believe you are allowing yourself to be duped like this.  What a scary world you must think we live in when a children's show can't even be safe from the throws of Satan.

P.S. Kids don't have a clue what "voodoo" is!

[SherylsShado]

The main contrast is the most important one of course, which is "Believing in Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior; and receiving Eternal Salvation from Him" and not placing one's faith in other "spirits".

The operative phrase there being "other spirits"; which directly implies xtian belief in "xtian spirits" is okay but, beliefs in other "spirits" is somehow not okay?

Doubtless there's some none-to-subtle esoteric distinction somewhere in there ...

According to the Bible, there is God and then there is Satan and the fallen angels that serve him.  The Bible is a guide to one having a personal relationship with God and things to avoid if one wishes to spend eternity with Him.  Having a "personal guide", trying to connect to the "spirits in the spirit world" and-the-like is not Godly behavior and is forbidden.  If one isn't on God's side, then they've sided with the enemy by default.  Why is that so hard to comprehend for so many??  

[SherylsShado]

The "CareBears" were created for "unbelievers"...[/i]        

Uh, the last time I checked, the Care Bears were created for children...

From your site:

Start with the name first. Who can deny the similarity between the name Care Bears and Carefours, the district of Port au Prince which is the heart of the Voodoo world? Can the cloud city of Care-a-Lot be anything but an idealized 'holy city' of the Lwa - a divine reflection of Carefours? Then consider some of the terminology. The Care Bears constantly want to 'Share until you care', just as the Lwa want to share the bodies of their worshipers. The Care Bears are constantly trying to be children's 'friends', just as the Voodoo Lwa are often referred to by their followers as 'friendly spirits' or just 'friends'.

Are you freakin' kidding me?!  With this kind of p i s s poor logic, ANYTHING can be interpreted as being "evil".  I can't believe you are allowing yourself to be duped like this.  What a scary world you must think we live in when a children's show can't even be safe from the throws of Satan.

P.S. Kids don't have a clue what "voodoo" is!

 

     What I said was "the CareBears were created for unbelievers" and it holds.  I think the "CareBears originally were greeting card characters, whether or not they stood for what they came to represent now---I am unsure of.  Still, it isn't the "children" that are running out and buying "CareBears", it's the grown-ups in their lives.  
    
     A "CareBear" has no place in a God-worshipping home or near their children.  If unbelievers wish to let their children play with such, it's their choice.   As for Christian kids though, it serves no Godly purpose and Christians shouldn't want their children playing with toys of satanic origins.  
    
     The kids that don't have a clue what voo-doo is, do they REALLY need things like the "CareBears" to make it look like "demon possession" is o.k. ("just as the Lwa want to share the bodies of their worshipers") ?   Christian children have no business trying to make friends with "spirits, friendly or not" ( Care Bears are constantly trying to be children's 'friends', just as the Voodoo Lwa are often referred to by their followers as 'friendly spirits' or just 'friends' ).  
    
     Therefore, when the CareBears were created, they were not created in hopes to appeal to the "Christian market" but rather to those that  either purposely worship satan/spirits and the people that are unaware of their origins.  
    
     No, children's shows CAN'T even be safe from the throws of satan, WHY would they be?   Surely satan delights in every childs life where he can get a foot-hold, and turn them away from God.  Satan is known as being the "great deceiver", the "master of deception".  What a clever scheme to have seemingly innocent looking, very kid-appealing "CareBears" in all the little kid-appealing colors with the kid-loving "CareBear" cartoons to-boot.  Deceive the little kiddies into thinking that voo-doo is totally acceptable right under their parent's unknowing noses.  (Clever indeed, as most parents wouldn't let a child watch "the voo-doo reality show",  buy them voo-doo dolls or let them participate in biting the heads off of chickens.)    
    
     The world isn't a "scary place" for Christian children, they don't need to rely on the "security" that a child gets from a "CareBear" as it is a "false security" (and coincidentally, those that follow satan whether unknowingly or not DOES receive a false "feeling of security" from him.  It's a common "benefit" one gets from "friending him".  However, it's all part of his deception.   (It isn't satan that is known as "the great protector" afterall, is it?  satan isn't known for loving anyone-- except himself.  It's common for SO MANY people that follow satan, they actually think that they are the one that satan will ultimately take care of for all their years of service to him. That would be another lie, he isn't going to "take care of anyone in a good way" in the end.  In the end, he loses.  Being on the losing side is NEVER the favorable side to be on.)
    
     Those that aren't following Christ, those that don't even believe in Him yet will so willingly defend things that have blatant satanic origins/or that which glorifies satan (many cartoons, music, movies, celebrities), why is that?  They will claim to being "secure, without fear" not realizing they should be...and never wondering if satan has worked his deception on them even though they are (and oftentimes unknowingly) serving his purpose.  I've seen some on this forum say things like they wouldn't serve the mean God of the Old Testament.  However "mean", God doesn't deceive people.  He has layed out His terms and given everyone a chance to decide for themselves who to follow.  There's no deception in Him.  Most people don't like finding out that someone has deceived them, scammed them.  People that are unknowingly (or knowingly) following satan most definitely have been scammed, sorry.  
    
     Time seems to be running out at a rapid pace, still there's time right now to end his "scamming" and get things right with God.  

  

[queenofnines]

it isn't the "children" that are running out and buying "CareBears", it's the grown-ups in their lives.

As with any other toy or physical need a child requires. Kiddos don't have credit cards. What's your point?  
    

As for Christian kids though, it serves no Godly purpose and Christians shouldn't want their children playing with toys of satanic origins.

What a sad, joyless, deprived life these kids must lead if 95 percent of their entertainment options are banned. Put a stranglehold on a child's imagination and see what type of person they grow up to be. Hint: it won't be pretty.

The kids that don't have a clue what voo-doo is,

99 percent of them...

do they REALLY need things like the "CareBears" to make it look like "demon possession" is o.k.?

On the contrary, do they really need things like the cross, which looks like a modified version of the swastika? How about worshiping god, "a man on high" (heil, Hitler!)? Don't forget the hand gestures!

vs.

...Do you see how batty this way of thinking is?!

Care Bears are constantly trying to be children's 'friends', just as the Voodoo Lwa are often referred to by their followers as 'friendly spirits' or just 'friends'

As opposed to being their...enemy? Pedobear?



AND DOESN'T JESUS WANT TO BE THEIR "FRIEND"??
    

The world isn't a "scary place" for Christian children

Except for the real-life invisible monster running around who wants to torture them in an oven forever if they don't believe in the other invisible guy. How's that for an after-school special?!

[Falconer02]

I'm not here to take sides on this issue, but from my experience with arguing with you, Sheryl, I noticed a certain quality of being out-of-date with media interpretations when you and I argued about Dungeons and Dragons being satanic/demonic and causing harm to families and stuff. The whole idea was created from religious fearmongering zealots and the 'trend' got way too popular. I hate to sound like this paragraph is bashing, but I'd highly recommend you try to be more open-minded on these types of issues. Care Bears are evil in your eyes, D+D is evil in others' eyes, Smurfs are evil in Jehpvah's Witnesses eyes, etc... I can make junk up too- Nintendo's Zelda series promotes demon worship from having you talk to spirits who give you new fighting powers! BAN ZELDA! This is a very similar mindset that stems all the way back to the salem witch trials- labelling something and spreading needless fear without having any provable or logical basis for it while pretty much being hypocritical with the accuser's own belief system.

[falcon9]

According to the Bible, there is God and then there is Satan and the fallen angels that serve him.

Yes well ... are these "beings" depicted as physical ones or, "spirit beings"?  There's no significant difference in "spirits" other than labelling some as "bad spirits", ("fallen angels", "fallen archangels", fallen arches, , "lwa", etc.), and some as "good spitits", (preferred "g-ds", "angels", death-dealing archangels", "jesus", etc.).  They're all designated as "spirits" under various descriptive labels, depending upon subjective bias. According to the same "bible", "satan" was once designated as an "archangel of g-d" before "rebelling" and being redesignated as a "fallen angel".
  

The Bible is a guide to one having a personal relationship with God and things to avoid if one wishes to spend eternity with Him.

The kids that don't have a clue what voo-doo is, do they REALLY need things like the "CareBears" to make it look like "demon possession" is o.k. ("just as the Lwa want to share the bodies of their worshipers") ?   Christian children have no business trying to make friends with "spirits, friendly or not" ( Care Bears are constantly trying to be children's 'friends', just as the Voodoo Lwa are often referred to by their followers as 'friendly spirits' or just 'friends' ).

So, those xtians who have "let the spirit of jesus into their hearts" are 'completely different' than voudoun practicioners who believe they're sharing their bodies with Lwa "spirits"?  I contend there's no difference at all, especially if one considers the xtian "g-d/jesus" to be malevolent "spirits" who seek to "possess" their worshippers/followers.

Having a "personal guide", trying to connect to the "spirits in the spirit world" and-the-like is not Godly behavior and is forbidden.

Under those restrictions, having "jesus" or "g-d" as a personal guide to the xtian spiritual world would be prohibited, were it not for the biased hypocrisy, ("these spirits, not those spirits").  

If one isn't on God's side, then they've sided with the enemy by default.  Why is that so hard to comprehend for so many??  

That part isn't difficult to comprehend.  The part that is more 'mystifying' is an arbitrary dividing of "spirits" into "good and evil" ones, depending upon any particular religious adherence, (or even of lack of specific religious adherences).  For instance, from a non-religious persepctive, the whole idea of "spirit possession" would be a 'bad idea', no matter what particular flavor of "spirit" is doing the possessing, ("jehovah" or "lwa").

[SherylsShado]

@qon, falconer02 and falcon9,
 
     Based on your recent replies to this thread, it seems as though none of you can tell the difference between  "God and His Heavenly Angels" and "Satan and the fallen angels". (from falcon9's quote "these spirits not those spirits"...). 
   
      For a child to own a Carebear probably isn't going to send them to hell...right away.  Let the child build their imagination and entertainment around satanic influences.  Let them grow to their teens and continue to build their imagination on satanic musical lyrics, role-playing and drugs.  If they are lucky enough to survive to adulthood, what type of person have they grown up to be...?  Most of the time, it isn't "pretty". (Is Lindsay Lohan a christian...or is "that mess" considered to be "pretty" these days?)  What starts out innocent enough has the capacity to end badly, sin never starts out as being shown as "ugly".  There's nothing wrong with Christians wanting better for their children.  Those that wish to toss all that worldly trash at their children and think it makes them better parents for it, thinks it gives them better kids then by all means indulge!!  I was simply pointing out that those kinds of things aren't for Christian children and so, therefore---there won't be any "Carebears" existing in the clouds with Jesus as Jesus doesn't tolerate sin. (ref: qon's initial carebear post).

     For fun, you each should take a piece of paper and write "GOD" at the top.  Use your search bar and write down as many Biblical qualities you can find about God.  Then write "satan" at the top of a second column and since satan is God's opposition ("opposite") write down the opposite of God's qualities under satan's column.  Example:  God is love, satan is hate.  God is truth, satan is a liar.  God is fair, satan is a cheat.  Go as far as you can with that list-building and when you're done, have a really good look at those qualities that belong to satan because if you should die before you can get yourselves right with God---THAT is what you are going to be spending an eternity with.  Don't you think that you DESERVE better than that??? 

[falcon9]

@qon, falconer02 and falcon9,
 
     Based on your recent replies to this thread, it seems as though none of you can tell the difference between  "God and His Heavenly Angels" and "Satan and the fallen angels". (from falcon9's quote "these spirits not those spirits"...).

From the content of your reply, I'm going to have to infer that you misunderstood the full intent of that "spirits" remark.  If there are such "spirits", (and I'm not contending that there are since that's your position), dividing them up into "good or bad"/"malevolent or benevolent" is largely arbitrarily-dependent upon either preconceived notions or, 'learned' ones.  The comparison between being being "possessed by the 'holy' spirit" and being "possessed by a demon" regards both as alleged "spirit possessions", (the former being generally approved of by most xtians and the latter, not so much).
 

      For a child to own a Carebear probably isn't going to send them to hell...right away.  Let the child build their imagination and entertainment around satanic influences.  Let them grow to their teens and continue to build their imagination on satanic musical lyrics, role-playing and drugs.

Simply designating "Carebears", unspecified music and roleplaying games as "satanic" doesn't confer satanism upon them.  Is there substantive evidence or, merely unsupported opinion for these claims?

What starts out innocent enough has the capacity to end badly ...

If you mean that indoctrinating "innocent" children with religious proselytizing has the potential to end badly, I agree.  If I can realize that wasn't your intent, you can realize what my intent there was, (if not, we could argue that religious fundamentalism being instilled at any age has just as much potential to end badly, no matter what that religion is - xtianity or satanism ... yes 'Virginia', satanism is a religion).

   For fun, you each should take a piece of paper and write "GOD" at the top. Use your search bar and write down as many Biblical qualities you can find about God.  Then write "satan" at the top of a second column and since satan is God's opposition ("opposite") write down the opposite of God's qualities under satan's column. 

That's not exactly my idea of "fun" however, comparing the arbitrary attributions of hypothetical entities serves as much purpose as comparing "Zeus & Hades", "Horus & Set", "Ahriman & Ahura Mazda" and so on.

[Falconer02]

For a child to own a Carebear probably isn't going to send them to hell...right away.  Let the child build their imagination and entertainment around satanic influences.

Or, you know, maybe those "satanic influences" will help them visualize the next amazing cartoon, movie, book, game, etc. that's regarded as a work of art. Perhaps they could be the next Mark Twain or HG Wells! Nah. CARE BEARS ARE DEMONIC! AVOID CREATIVE IDEAS AT ALL COSTS IF THEY HAVE ANY SORT OF MAGICAL IDEAS IN THEM! This is literally Dark-Aged reasoning that's flaming with hypocrisy. That's no exhaggeration. You'd fit in quite well in a time where there was no media or culture. It's too bad you were born in a time where we value creativity. One can dream, right? But I'm assume you're against creative dreams too, so...nevermind.

I was simply pointing out that those kinds of things aren't for Christian children and so, therefore---there won't be any "Carebears" existing in the clouds with Jesus as Jesus doesn't tolerate sin. (ref: qon's initial carebear post).

Oh please. I imagine your heart starts pounding and you begin sweating when you hear a child singing "My Little Ponyyyyy....My Little Ponyyyy...."

Those that wish to toss all that worldly trash at their children and think it makes them better parents for it, thinks it gives them better kids then by all means indulge!

Right. Forget all that trashy media that's fun, entertaining, and morally lesson-based and make them study an ancient wordy book that says I should kill my kids if they're disrespectful. That'll get me father of the year for sure.

For fun, you each should take a piece of paper and write "GOD" at the top.  Use your search bar and write down as many Biblical qualities you can find about God.  Then write "satan" at the top of a second column and since satan is God's opposition ("opposite") write down the opposite of God's qualities under satan's column.  Example:  God is love, satan is hate.  God is truth, satan is a liar.  God is fair, satan is a cheat.  Go as far as you can with that list-building and when you're done, have a really good look at those qualities that belong to satan because if you should die before you can get yourselves right with God---THAT is what you are going to be spending an eternity with.  Don't you think that you DESERVE better than that???  

Since you cannot grasp the simple concepts that your god is not fair, is hateful, is a cheater, etc. etc. any rational person with your beliefs will easily conclude that a believer is screwed either way. I can easily provide examples if asked of why your god is troublesome, but I think it would be pointless considering the above and how you simply ignore the problems presented in favor of mindless, morally disgusting, and schlocky reasoning. One can conclude that you enjoy being ignorant to the fact that your beliefs are littered with simple problems that you intentionally fail to acknowledge. It's rather strange that you avoid such problems instead of tackling them head-on and try to make sense of them.

tl;dnr - Ignorance is bliss?  

[SherylsShado]

@qon, falconer02 and falcon9,
 
     Based on your recent replies to this thread, it seems as though none of you can tell the difference between  "God and His Heavenly Angels" and "Satan and the fallen angels". (from falcon9's quote "these spirits not those spirits"...).

From the content of your reply, I'm going to have to infer that you misunderstood the full intent of that "spirits" remark.  If there are such "spirits", (and I'm not contending that there are since that's your position), dividing them up into "good or bad"/"malevolent or benevolent" is largely arbitrarily-dependent upon either preconceived notions or, 'learned' ones.  The comparison between being being "possessed by the 'holy' spirit" and being "possessed by a demon" regards both as alleged "spirit possessions", (the former being generally approved of by most xtians and the latter, not so much).

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone claiming to be "possessed by the 'holy' spirit" before.  They can receive the gift of the holy spirit or be filled with the holy spirit.  At any rate, of those that have been filled with the Holy Spirit---I've never heard anyone complain about it, they are quite joyful about it and can manage to function like a normal human being...believe it or not.   Of those that are said to be "demon-possessed", they are not "joyful" but rather often fearful.  (A great book for you, qon & falcon02 to read is "The Beautiful Side of Evil" by Johanna Michaelsen.  It's available cheap at amazon.com.  It's a true story, very informative, very interesting.) 
 

      For a child to own a Carebear probably isn't going to send them to hell...right away.  Let the child build their imagination and entertainment around satanic influences.  Let them grow to their teens and continue to build their imagination on satanic musical lyrics, role-playing and drugs.

Simply designating "Carebears", unspecified music and roleplaying games as "satanic" doesn't confer satanism upon them.  Is there substantive evidence or, merely unsupported opinion for these claims?

   Seriously?  The voo-doo origins of the CareBears can be found using your search bar.  The instances mentioned in previous posts of "friending friendly spirits" has nothing to do with making friends with "angels".  Having spirit guides, spirit "friends" are popular with New Age and one can also find the difference between New Age and Chrisitanity by using their search bar.  Satanic musical lyrics---one can get the lyrics to any questionable rock song on-line.  If the lyrics don't boldly praise satan, then one can also check out the profiles of the singer(s) to see if their lives do.  As for questionable "role-playing games", God wants his children to keep their minds on good things (Phil 4:, if those games are about honor, nobility, truth,  "doing the right thing" then they probably wouldn't be considered a bad thing.  But when role-playing starts screwing up a kids mind, when the kid no longer can distinguish between the real world and their role-playing character and "fantasyland" and thy need psychiatric help, that should surely be a sign that that particular role-playing is not a good thing.

What starts out innocent enough has the capacity to end badly ...

  If you mean that indoctrinating "innocent" children with religious proselytizing has the potential to end badly, I agree.  If I can realize that wasn't your intent, you can realize what my intent there was, (if not, we could argue that religious fundamentalism being instilled at any age has just as much potential to end badly, no matter what that religion is - xtianity or satanism ... yes 'Virginia', satanism is a religion).

  No that wasn't my intent and yes,I understand your intent.  However, Christians are "stewards" and responsible for all things given to them...including their children.  A Christian parent can only teach their children about God, at some point that child has to determine for themself to accept Jesus, or reject.  Christians don't live perfect lives and they aren't perfect people.  Their kids can live lives of heart-break just like the children of unbelievers.  Still, being a good steward means you give that child the best start toward a personal relationship with God and pray every day that God will guide their path and watch over them, while removing all things known to be evil from their path.  ("CareBears", cartoons, etc---people can and have survived for many, many years without them and did just fine.)

   For fun, you each should take a piece of paper and write "GOD" at the top. Use your search bar and write down as many Biblical qualities you can find about God.  Then write "satan" at the top of a second column and since satan is God's opposition ("opposite") write down the opposite of God's qualities under satan's column. 

That's not exactly my idea of "fun" however, comparing the arbitrary attributions of hypothetical entities serves as much purpose as comparing "Zeus & Hades", "Horus & Set", "Ahriman & Ahura Mazda" and so on.

Oh, well...I thought that perhaps since you probably had a "CareBear" in your youth and had all that "imagination" working at full speed, that you have no problem getting a little "creative". 

You know, I really do not "enjoy" discussing matters of God with you, qon or falconer02 because I know it is a subject of easy ridicule.  What I hate worse though, what bothers me more is to read many of the posts (by all three of you)and see just how badly deceived by satan you all are.  I'm not saying that to be "mean" because it is heartbreaking to me.  I like you guys, I want better for you.  No one that comes to God comes to Him "after" they have "gotten their life all in order", He takes people as they are and helps them work things out eventually.  There should be no fear in talking to God, faith is the opposite of fear and it is by faith that people pray.  He's not "scary", He loves you guys and He's waiting to hear from you...   
     Talk to Him just as you would a friend, and see how that goes.  I know you guys have said that you've tried it all before.  I believe you.  I also believe it's time to try it again...no excuses, just give it another shot beginning with a heart-to-heart prayer with just you and God.  Take a good look around you.  Time is running out.  MANY are saying so, NOT just the Christians.  I have non-believers every day telling me that things can't go on for much longer, even they can see that time is running out.   Make your list, choose who you're going to spend eternity with before it's too late.      

[SherylsShado]

@falcon02,
     I'm not so uncreative and unimaginative that I can't "hear a demon saying the words" in your posts as of late.  (Not literally of course but, you are full of hatred whether you realize it or not.  The evidence of it in your posts the past year speaks volumes.)  It's alarming because you don't realize that even when most Believers are "upset" at being insulted in these forums, for the most part...they don't post back with such apparent hate like you do.  Why don't they?  That would be God in them, because they certainly otherwise could.  I'm not trying to "insult you", I'm just trying to explain to you that God does make a positive difference in people.

     That being said, yes please.  I would like for you to provide Scriptural evidence of where God is not fair, is hateful, is a cheater, etc.  I don't wish to be "blasted" with paragraph after paragraph of words copied from other sites making it impossible for a response back due to time limitations on my part.  One instance at a time would be great.  If that one could be settled before going to the next---fantastic. 
      Thank you.

[falcon9]

@qon, falconer02 and falcon9,
 
     Based on your recent replies to this thread, it seems as though none of you can tell the difference between  "God and His Heavenly Angels" and "Satan and the fallen angels". (from falcon9's quote "these spirits not those spirits"...).

From the content of your reply, I'm going to have to infer that you misunderstood the full intent of that "spirits" remark.  If there are such "spirits", (and I'm not contending that there are since that's your position), dividing them up into "good or bad"/"malevolent or benevolent" is largely arbitrarily-dependent upon either preconceived notions or, 'learned' ones.  The comparison between being being "possessed by the 'holy' spirit" and being "possessed by a demon" regards both as alleged "spirit possessions", (the former being generally approved of by most xtians and the latter, not so much).

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone claiming to be "possessed by the 'holy' spirit" before.  They can receive the gift of the holy spirit or be filled with the holy spirit.  At any rate, of those that have been filled with the Holy Spirit-

Same packaging, different labels on the packages.  Regardless, being "filled with the 'holy spirit'" is precisely like "possession by an evil" one.  Some would contend that that "holy spirit" isn't so "holy" after all and is just another hypothesized "spirit" going around possessing far more hapless victims than so-called "demonic" ones are.
   

I've never heard anyone complain about it, they are quite joyful about it and can manage to function like a normal human being...believe it or not. 

Oh, they may put on sort of a convincing facade or 'normality' however, a seething froth of irrationality often awaits just below the surface of such an outer facade.  Of course, that's not exclusive to xtians either.
 

      For a child to own a Carebear probably isn't going to send them to hell...right away.  Let the child build their imagination and entertainment around satanic influences.  Let them grow to their teens and continue to build their imagination on satanic musical lyrics, role-playing and drugs.

Simply designating "Carebears", unspecified music and roleplaying games as "satanic" doesn't confer satanism upon them.  Is there substantive evidence or, merely unsupported opinion for these claims?

   

Seriously?  The voo-doo origins of the CareBears can be found using your search bar.

I mentioned 'substantive evidence', not speculation based upon religious bias, (which never, ever qualifies as substantive evidence).
 

The instances mentioned in previous posts of "friending friendly spirits" has nothing to do with making friends with "angels".  Having spirit guides, spirit "friends" are popular with New Age and one can also find the difference between New Age and Chrisitanity by using their search bar.

Conversely, a 'net search reveals a substantial amount of referential similarities between xtianity and "new age" stuff, (beyond some overt differences between new age polytheism and old age xtian monotheism, even after judaism stole the one g-d concept from the pre-existing Aegyptian concept of "Ra").

But when role-playing starts screwing up a kids mind, when the kid no longer can distinguish between the real world and their role-playing character and "fantasyland" and thy need psychiatric help, that should surely be a sign that that particular role-playing is not a good thing.

If so, then such xtian role-playing games extant should be avoided and condemned for the exactly the same "reasons":
http://www.ehow.com/list_5910351_christian-computer-role_playing-games.html

What starts out innocent enough has the capacity to end badly ...

  If you mean that indoctrinating "innocent" children with religious proselytizing has the potential to end badly, I agree.  If I can realize that wasn't your intent, you can realize what my intent there was, (if not, we could argue that religious fundamentalism being instilled at any age has just as much potential to end badly, no matter what that religion is - xtianity or satanism ... yes 'Virginia', satanism is a religion).

  No that wasn't my intent and yes,I understand your intent.  However, Christians are "stewards" and responsible for all things given to them...including their children.  A Christian parent can only teach their children about God, at some point that child has to determine for themself to accept Jesus, or reject.   

How is a young child, just learning to develop their reasoning abilities and heavily-influenced by such parental authority as imposes religious indoctrination upon their impressionable young minds, not being propagandized by any early religious proselytization?

   For fun, you each should take a piece of paper and write "GOD" at the top. Use your search bar and write down as many Biblical qualities you can find about God.  Then write "satan" at the top of a second column and since satan is God's opposition ("opposite") write down the opposite of God's qualities under satan's column. 

That's not exactly my idea of "fun" however, comparing the arbitrary attributions of hypothetical entities serves as much purpose as comparing "Zeus & Hades", "Horus & Set", "Ahriman & Ahura Mazda" and so on.

Oh, well...I thought that perhaps since you probably had a "CareBear" in your youth and had all that "imagination" working at full speed, that you have no problem getting a little "creative". 

Nope, I was active duty military in 1981, (when "carebears" were put on the market), and well beyond that degree of "youth".  Back to the moot parallels; you did catch the part about comparing biased attributes of different supernatural entities from different cultures, nyet?

You know, I really do not "enjoy" discussing matters of God with you, qon or falconer02 because I know it is a subject of easy ridicule. 

If such occurs, it has regarded the unsupported religious beliefs themselves and not necessarily the "believer".  I've tried, with limited success, to draw this distinction before.  A 'believer' is not their "belief", (even in such instances of extreme fundamentalism, a "believer" is one who "believes" something and this inherently separates a belief from believer).

What I hate worse though, what bothers me more is to read many of the posts (by all three of you)and see just how badly deceived by satan you all are. 

Say what?  If someone does not believe in the concept of "satan", (a disbelief), how can something someone else 'believes' be applicable outside of the believer's belief system?  That not only seems presumptuous, it Is presumptuous since "satanism" is largely 'inverted' xtianity.

I'm not saying that to be "mean" because it is heartbreaking to me.  I like you guys, I want better for you.   

Okay however, this isn't an open-ended 'license' to proselytize.  Sure, you can still do it but, it's unlikely to go over well.

[Falconer02]

I'm not so uncreative and unimaginative that I can't "hear a demon saying the words" in your posts as of late.  (Not literally of course but, you are full of hatred whether you realize it or not.  The evidence of it in your posts the past year speaks volumes.)  It's alarming because you don't realize that even when most Believers are "upset" at being insulted in these forums, for the most part...they don't post back with such apparent hate like you do.  Why don't they?  That would be God in them, because they certainly otherwise could.  I'm not trying to "insult you", I'm just trying to explain to you that God does make a positive difference in people.

There's a major difference between hatred and frustration. I'm frustrated that people like you still cling to this irrational nonsense that stems back to horrific times in human history. I'm frustrated at the unwillingness to try to understand the other POV that's based upon simple logic. Not only that, but you implore this narrow-minded behavior. It's ridiculous. People with these irrational ideals (kids cartoons = evil) is nothing short of the same mindframe Westboro uses. Terrible, uneducated, and out-dated extremist ideals. What you think is love and positive is actually irrational fear and narrow-minded thinking.

/rant

That being said, yes please.  I would like for you to provide Scriptural evidence of where God is not fair, is hateful, is a cheater, etc.

Well I've already presented philosophical examples in the past (to which you've always just disappeared from...), what you're asking here is like shooting fish in a barrel. Before I begin, you must agree to these terms-

Evil- morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life. harmful; injurious: evil laws.
       characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.

Unfair- not fair; not conforming to approved standards, as of justice, honesty, or ethics

Hateful- to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.

Cheat- to defraud; swindle

I just grabbed these from dictionary.com . Do you agree that these meanings describe these 4 words?

[Octavia7]

Hey there is a god and he made us in his image, god loves us and if you dont live for christ then you go to hell, he dont send us to hell for little things it have to really be something serious and long as we give ourself to christ and get saved, because if you aint livin for christ you living for satan, everyone has a soul you just have to meditate their is life after death, there's 3 heaven's the first heaven is the earth, the second heaven is the sky and the third heaven is where god and Jesus are.

[champak97]

Hey there is a god and he made us in his image, god loves us and if you dont live for christ then you go to hell, he dont send us to hell for little things it have to really be something serious and long as we give ourself to christ and get saved, because if you aint livin for christ you living for satan, everyone has a soul you just have to meditate their is life after death, there's 3 heaven's the first heaven is the earth, the second heaven is the sky and the third heaven is where god and Jesus are.

So, every human being on earth should be a christian, otherwise they go to hell What about other religions? This is what happens with too much brainwashing