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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 04:31:26 pm »
@falcon9
     Sorry this is so "off-topic" it's unreal, but I didn't know how else to "message" you.  Since this thread was "calling on you", I decided to post here.  

[quote author=falcon9 Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on-shore.  Although I don't perceive "waterbearer's" post as a 'calling out' to flame me or falconeer02, (or "others").

Yes, you are special.  I only have 2 options.  :(  (Permission granted, of course...)  Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on shore.  Sometimes the finders are lucky in that they are able to find the person's information inside the bottle so that they can let them know where their message travelled to, but NOT always.  Sometimes all they get is the 'address of the company that made the bottle' , example "Friggin' China".  If the founder tried to return it there, all they would do is return it to "Friggin' China support" .
    Anyway, I am cheering for you in the post-mania contest---I would enter, but I think that I will have to work at that time.  (I finished my training yesterday and am back to some sixteen hour shifts again between two jobs.)
     Good Luck (not that you need it, you're a "platinum pro")!!  :thumbsup:   

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It's a bummer that you'd have to work during Post Mania.  I did attempt to "nominate" you for it but, Kohler wants willing victims ... er, volunteers -  yeah, that's it.  Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )
Thanks for the nomination.  Having to deal with two jobs again is a bummer all on its own, missing post-mania just makes it worse.  Oh well...[cheer] "Totally, for sure. I think I need a manicure.
The sun, I swear, it's bleaching out my gorgeous hair.
64, 24, I don't even know the score!
Go, go! Fight, fight!
Gee, I hope I look alright!"




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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 04:44:57 pm »
Yes, you are special. 

Then I'm fortunate that my parents had the foresight not to name me "Ed", nyet?

I only have 2 options.  :(  (Permission granted, of course...)  Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on shore.  Sometimes the finders are lucky in that they are able to find the person's information inside the bottle so that they can let them know where their message travelled to, but NOT always.  Sometimes all they get is the 'address of the company that made the bottle' , example "Friggin' China".  If the founder tried to return it there, all they would do is return it to "Friggin' China support".

Your coded response has been decrypted and understood.  Another 'bottle' will be tossed out to sea along with your 'sekret decoder ring'.

    Anyway, I am cheering for you in the post-mania contest---I would enter, but I think that I will have to work at that time.  (I finished my training yesterday and am back to some sixteen hour shifts again between two jobs.)
     Good Luck (not that you need it, you're a "platinum pro")!!  :thumbsup:   

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It's a bummer that you'd have to work during Post Mania.  I did attempt to "nominate" you for it but, Kohler wants willing victims ... er, volunteers -  yeah, that's it.  Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )


Thanks for the nomination.  Having to deal with two jobs again is a bummer all on its own, missing post-mania just makes it worse.  Oh well...[cheer]
"Totally, for sure. I think I need a manicure.
The sun, I swear, it's bleaching out my gorgeous hair.
64, 24, I don't even know the score!
Go, go! Fight, fight!
Gee, I hope I look alright!"


Thanks, that's a fun cheer, (although it may have been too much to expect such as this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXF78SREnM

 :o :-X
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2012, 05:12:55 pm »

Simple! We aren't scared. We don't get frightened by this mysterious universe and it's age and therefore accept the most-likely possibility that this is the only life we get. I'm extremely happy to be living in a time where we're actually shedding our ancient beliefs (slowly) and finally discovering the truths about the universe around us.  That being the case, it's best to enjoy life to the fullest and try to answer these mysteries through rational/realistic means instead of wasting it on ancient mythology and man-made gods that promote the concept of a rewarding afterlife with not one ounce of proof to give it credibility. I honestly cannot understand how anyone would favor an afterlife with a god who promotes an "OBEY ME OR SUFFER FOR ETERNITY!" philosophy rather than giving the thought that this might be their one shot at life. Respectfully perhaps you can answer that one, Waterbearer?

Well said, Falconer02! I so do agree with enjoying life to the fullest, as well as with the rest that you have said. Oftentimes I hear "god is love!" and also question how can they say that when the treat of eternal suffering is the only option in Chistendom.

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2012, 05:22:01 pm »
I so do agree with enjoying life to the fullest, as well as with the rest that you have said. Oftentimes I hear "god is love!" and also question how can they say that when the treat of eternal suffering is the only option in Chistendom.

"Religion is based ... mainly upon fear ... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the
parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view
on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the
human race."
-- Bertrand Russell

"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are
conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do
I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."
-- Albert Einstein
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2012, 05:29:18 pm »

The brief 'answer' I'd theorize is 'fractal emergence', (the longer theories arise from a complex interconnected group of mathematics concerning multiple dimensions, chaos, superstring, fractal and emergence theories).  Emergence theory is technically speculative, (pends verifying evidence), but is based upon existing tangible evidence and 'mathematical proofs' to support the viability of such theories...

I'm impressed, falcon9. Are you a physicist, a fan of TED TV or simply well read? Yes, theories are speculative but are supported by evidence to start those theories on their paths. I much rather base my view points/opinions on logical theories rather than blind faith in anything.



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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2012, 05:39:58 pm »

The brief 'answer' I'd theorize is 'fractal emergence', (the longer versions of the theories arise from a complex interconnected group of mathematics concerning multiple dimensions, chaos, superstring, fractal and emergence theories).  Emergence theory is technically speculative, (pends verifying evidence), but is based upon existing tangible evidence and 'mathematical proofs' to support the viability of such theories...

I'm impressed, falcon9. Are you a physicist, a fan of TED TV or simply well read?

Let's go with well-read, (since I only watch movies on TV and don't know what "TED TV" is plus, I don't really count taking college-level physics while in the 11th grade of high school after mathematically-demonstrating the the prof teaching the 101 course to students older than I was incorrect regarding singularities ... for some reason, he wasn't pleased that a 'younger' student did so).

Yes, theories are speculative but are supported by evidence to start those theories on their paths. I much rather base my view points/opinions on logical theories rather than blind faith in anything.

I'm glad at least some people can tell the difference between religious speculations based upon "faith" and rational theories based upon reason.  Realizing that fractal emergence theories are complex, it doesn't surprise me when religious adherents opt-in for a 'simplier' explanation, (the "g-ddidit" theory), which has no rational basis.

"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
Scriptures, n. The sacred books of 'our holy religion', as distinguished from the false and profane writings on which all other faiths are based."
-- Ambrose Bierce
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 05:57:34 pm »
... HOW DO YOU THINK EXISTENCE STARTED?...  ... my main concern is something after death... like what if its really bad being trapped for eternity in your mind or consicousness or your existence never ending?

It is our nature to ask why about everything but we must also accept the possibility that we may never find all the answers to that which we seek. I'm not saying to stop questioning/discussing but worrying about it is not going to help any. One explanation about something from nothing was well presented by falcon9 and the fractal emergence theory and there are numerous religious theories. I am very interested in some of the answers you will be getting and I think there will be some good ones.  In the mean time, do enjoy life to the best of your ability.

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 06:27:45 pm »
Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on-shore. 

I only have 2 options.  :(  (Permission granted, of course...)  Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on shore.  Sometimes the finders are lucky in that they are able to find the person's information inside the bottle so that they can let them know where their message travelled to, but NOT always.  Sometimes all they get is the 'address of the company that made the bottle' , example "Friggin' China".  If the founder tried to return it there, all they would do is return it to "Friggin' China support".

Oooooh......you two are being VEWY mystewious.

Your coded response has been decrypted and understood.  Another 'bottle' will be tossed out to sea along with your 'sekret decoder ring'.




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  Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )

                
          ;D         :D        ;D           :D

                       


I'm impressed, falcon9.
As am I...... :notworthy:

I much rather base my view points/opinions on logical theories rather than blind faith in anything.
Glad to hear that someone else thinks this way.

I'm glad at least some people can tell the difference between religious speculations based upon "faith" and rational theories based upon reason. 
Again....as am I.  (Can't we clone gamerpeeps??  :dontknow: )
                    
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 06:33:30 pm »
Yes, you are special.  

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Then I'm fortunate that my parents had the foresight not to name me "Ed", nyet?
Yes indeed... ;D

I only have 2 options.  :(  (Permission granted, of course...)  Sometimes messages in bottles do wash-up on shore.  Sometimes the finders are lucky in that they are able to find the person's information inside the bottle so that they can let them know where their message travelled to, but NOT always.  Sometimes all they get is the 'address of the company that made the bottle' , example "Friggin' China".  If the founder tried to return it there, all they would do is return it to "Friggin' China support".

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Your coded response has been decrypted and understood.  Another 'bottle' will be tossed out to sea along with your 'sekret decoder ring'.
Very well understood too, I might add.  I would love to know how 'she' did what I can't.  I mean, I did a few times (exactly as you had once described).  It all ended as quickly as it began.  (It was the old "you-can-have-it, no-you-can't" trick).  It ended for once, it ended for all.  Perhaps you're just "blessed"...lol

 
   Anyway, I am cheering for you in the post-mania contest---I would enter, but I think that I will have to work at that time.  (I finished my training yesterday and am back to some sixteen hour shifts again between two jobs.)
     Good Luck (not that you need it, you're a "platinum pro")!!  :thumbsup:    

Quote from: falcon9
It's a bummer that you'd have to work during Post Mania.  I did attempt to "nominate" you for it but, Kohler wants willing victims ... er, volunteers -  yeah, that's it.  Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )


Thanks for the nomination.  Having to deal with two jobs again is a bummer all on its own, missing post-mania just makes it worse.  Oh well...[cheer]
"Totally, for sure. I think I need a manicure.
The sun, I swear, it's bleaching out my gorgeous hair.
64, 24, I don't even know the score!
Go, go! Fight, fight!
Gee, I hope I look alright!"


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Thanks, that's a fun cheer, (although it may have been too much to expect such as this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXF78SREnM

 :o :-X
Yes, well... :o
« Last Edit: June 01, 2012, 06:46:48 pm by SherylsShado »

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 06:38:45 pm »
SherylsShado....
that's a very cute baby face you have for your avatar

(sorry....WAY off topic, I know)
                    
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 06:43:32 pm »
SherylsShado....
that's a very cute baby face you have for your avatar

(sorry....WAY off topic, I know)

Thanks, it's not one of my cats but...I can wish   :) 
Way off topic?  (That's where I spend alot of time... ;D)
Speaking of "off topic", where have you been????  The forums just aren't the same without you (in other words, I missed you!!  :) )

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 06:44:40 pm »
Oooooh......you two are being VEWY mystewious.

Not really, since you're in on it too.  ;->

Your coded response has been decrypted and understood.  Another 'bottle' will be tossed out to sea along with your 'sekret decoder ring'.


[/quote]

Something like that or, this ...




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 Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )


              
          ;D         :D        ;D           :D

                        

If that's you, it's my turn to be impressed.   :male:


I'm impressed, falcon9.
As am I...... :notworthy:

I much rather base my view points/opinions on logical theories rather than blind faith in anything.
Glad to hear that someone else thinks this way.

I'm glad at least some people can tell the difference between religious speculations based upon "faith" and rational theories based upon reason.  

Again....as am I.  (Can't we clone gamerpeeps??  :dontknow: )

You may have illuminated the central reason why human cloning isn't currently legal, (notwithstanding 'someone' who'd want, say, a cheerleading squad cloned ... for instance).
 :-X  :angel12:
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 02:10:43 am by falcon9 »
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2012, 06:50:07 pm »
Yes, you are special.  

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Then I'm fortunate that my parents had the foresight not to name me "Ed", nyet?

Yes indeed... ;D

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Your coded response has been decrypted and understood.  Another 'bottle' will be tossed out to sea along with your 'sekret decoder ring'.

Very well understood too, I might add.  I would love to know how 'she' did what I can't.  I mean, I did a few times (exactly as you had once described).  It all ended as quickly as it began.  (It was the old "you-can-have-it, no-you-can't" trick).  It ended for once, it ended for all.  Perhaps you're just "blessed"...lol

Perhaps someone needs to lay off the 'intercessory magical rituals' which may or may not be infusing any other hypothetical 'magical rituals' too,
(just speculating ...)

   Anyway, I am cheering for you in the post-mania contest---
    Good Luck (not that you need it, you're a "platinum pro")!!  :thumbsup:    

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Thanks for cheerleading, (will you be dressed as one too?  :o 8) )


Thanks for the nomination.  
url=http://www.glitter-graphics.com][/url][cheer]
"Totally, for sure. I think I need a manicure.
The sun, I swear, it's bleaching out my gorgeous hair.
64, 24, I don't even know the score!
Go, go! Fight, fight!
Gee, I hope I look alright!"


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Thanks, that's a fun cheer, (although it may have been too much to expect such as this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXF78SREnM

 :o :-X

Yes, well... :o

Pretty close or, miles away? 
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2012, 07:08:17 pm »
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Perhaps someone needs to lay off the 'intercessory magical rituals' which may or may not be infusing any other hypothetical 'magical rituals' too,
(just speculating ...)

I would have to think that if anyone is doing any 'intercessory magical rituals', it would have to be you since you have accomplished what I bet most others can't.  ;D  "Hypothetical 'magical rituals'"?   I was just kidding you since you have something that I don't, so I said you were "blessed".  Perhaps I should have said you were "lucky" instead...however, I don't believe in 'luck'.

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Pretty close or, miles away? 
Are you kidding me?  Miles and miles and more miles than that away... in fact, "somewhere OVER the rainbow..."

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2012, 07:25:12 pm »
I would have to think that if anyone is doing any 'intercessory magical rituals', it would have to be you since you have accomplished what I bet most others can't.  ;D  "Hypothetical 'magical rituals'"?   I was just kidding you since you have something that I don't, so I said you were "blessed".  

Presumably, we each have somethings the other does not, (especially if you're a woman and I'm not ...).

Perhaps I should have said you were "lucky" instead...however, I don't believe in 'luck'.

Neither do I however, there is a theory of 'fortuitous coincidence' ... *chuckle*

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Pretty close or, miles away?  

Are you kidding me?  Miles and miles and more miles than that away... in fact, "somewhere OVER the rainbow..."

Pretend that someone caught you 'bathing' and use this as your avatar?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 01:33:06 pm by falcon9 »
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