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duroz

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2012, 07:27:55 pm »
Pretend that someone caught you 'bathing' and use this as your avatar?




I'm not sure......but I think my smokin' baby avatar is smokin' faster...... :confused1:
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2012, 07:34:19 pm »
Pretend that someone caught you 'bathing' and use this as your avatar?




I'm not sure......but I think my smokin' baby avatar is smokin' faster...... :confused1:

LOL, yep...I think so too!  ;D

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2012, 07:38:56 pm »
Pretend that someone caught you 'bathing' and use this as your avatar?

I'm not sure......but I think my smokin' baby avatar is smokin' faster...... :confused1:

That desert 'babe' is "smokin'" but, doesn't hold a candle to my gf, (although she likes candles around the tub when she soaks).



[that's not her]  :-X
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2012, 07:41:12 pm »


I'm not sure......but I think my smokin' baby avatar is smokin' faster...... :confused1:

LOL, yep...I think so too!  ;D

I'd offer you a towel after you're done tubbing but, all I have is this small hankie ... here.
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2012, 07:49:42 pm »
So..."riddle me this"...
An "envelope" I have not, nor any "bubbles"...
I have a flag, and a person...
and a message from an envelope 'within a message':
 Could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed.  :dontknow:
 

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2012, 07:56:39 pm »
So..."riddle me this"...
An "envelope" I have not, nor any "bubbles"...
I have a flag, and a person...
and a message from an envelope 'within a message':
Could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed.  :dontknow:

Sounds like a 'purloined letter' alright.

I don't know what mail client you're using, (for instance, if you're on a Mac or different PC OS, it may not be configured for that option).
The solution to your riddle is that you cannot perform this operation unless your mail client is changed, (not male client, although that might be more amusing for you).
 :-X
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2012, 08:37:25 pm »
I am up in the air about all of that, but I do believe in God, I pray, and I am a believer that there is someone in the universe that is a power greater than myself. I struggle with wondering how all the life forms, so perfectly formed, so  built for survival, so functional could all have appeared so randomly. I do lean toward all of this being a grand design of some sort. If we evolved from apes, what did a ladybug evolve from? It is a conundrum.

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2012, 08:44:43 pm »
@falcon9,
Haven't "thrown in the , towel yet".  Will work more on the situation tomorrow.  I have to be at work early tomorrow so have to get some zzz's.  Have a great night, you too duroz!!

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2012, 12:40:17 am »
I am a believer that there is someone in the universe that is a power greater than myself.

Yet, there is no valid evidence to support such a belief therefore, it remains an unsupported opinion.

I struggle with wondering how all the life forms, so perfectly formed, so  built for survival, so functional could all have appeared so randomly.

Again, there is zero evidence to support the creationism hypothesis that life 'appeared' fully-formed etc., whereas a theory that lifeforms evolved and adapted to their environments has at least more plausible than "g-ddidit".

I do lean toward all of this being a grand design of some sort. If we evolved from apes, what did a ladybug evolve from? It is a conundrum.

Such argument are based in superstitous beliefs, not evidence or reasoning.  The only "conundrum" extant is the continued presentation of this 'false argument' in lieu of logical rebuttal.  There's nothing that forces anyone to put forth either illogical or, logical arguments however, this misses the more subtle meta-argument's basis.  That concept has been right here all along, visible to any who aren't self-blinded to discern, (intangible concepts are a different tangential discussion, however).

"If a man, holding a belief which he was taught in childhood or persuaded of afterwards, keeps down and pushes away any doubts which arise about it in his mind, purposely avoids the reading of books and the company of men that call in question or discuss it, and regards as impious those questions which cannot easily be asked without disturbing it - the life of that man is one long 'sin' against mankind."
-- William Clifford
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2012, 12:46:36 am »
@falcon9,
Haven't "thrown in the , towel yet".  Will work more on the situation tomorrow.  I have to be at work early tomorrow so have to get some zzz's.  Have a great night, you too duroz!!

Okay.  I may have a suggestion or two, depending upon which OS you're using.  Have a day tomorrow.

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2012, 10:26:47 am »
HOW DO YOU THINK EXISTENCE STARTED?

ZzzzzZz...really, this one again?

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i don't understand how something could come out of nothing

Something didn't come out of nothing if we're tracing back to the Big Bang.  Your confusion stems from the fact that you are clearly not educated on this matter.  There was a singularity that contained all of the matter of the universe at the time of the Big Bang.  That sure ain't "nothing"!

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or how a god could just be there

Exactly.  Kudos to you for realizing the double standard religious people have when it comes to this issue.  It's okay for god to have always existed, but not some form of universe(s)?!  And all of the evidence lies with the latter as actually being plausible...

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i've heard that ppl can come from the stars like the stars contain the elements of life

There's not much difference between you and the desk in front of you; it's just a different configuration of atoms!  And yes, you "share" atoms with the stars, dinosaur poop, Hitler...when you die, the atoms that made you up don't.

"Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are all stardust. You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution and for life - weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way for them to get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be here today." - Lawrence Krauss

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in the nothingness how could the conditions become right for life...

1. We've established that the term "nothingness" is a fallacy.  2. Do you really think that out of BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of galaxies, none would be hospitable for life?  It may be a "small world", but it's NOT a "small universe", after all!

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how he can send ppl to hell for eternity if the world is just made up by him seems too harsh for a pointless made up world...

Never forget this.  Anyone who gives a few moments of thought to the whole "hell" bit will ultimately come away repulsed by religion.

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like culdnt god have made himself nonexistent if he was just there so nothing had to exist and possibly suffer?

You're forgetting that the Christian god is a  d i c k  who breaks all sorts of rules of logic, so no.  (But really, yes: http://www.evilbible.com/Impossible.htm)

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like what if its really bad being trapped for eternity in your mind or consicousness or your existence never ending?

Uh, yeah, it would be.  NEVER getting to die?  Now that's "hell"...unless your lord offers lobotomies.

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HOW CAN YOU BE CONFIDENT YOU JUST DIE AND DONT GO ANYWHERE? please help

Because as dear ol' Mark Twain once said: "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."   :thumbsup:
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2012, 10:52:44 am »

I'd offer you a towel after you're done tubbing but, all I have is this small hankie ... here. :o

               


Now I am SURE my smokin' baby avatar is smokin' faster......
                    
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2012, 10:53:03 am »
So..."riddle me this"...
An "envelope" I have not, nor any "bubbles"...
I have a flag, and a person...
and a message from an envelope 'within a message':

I know I said this before.....but
    NOW you two are REALLY sounding VEWY mystewious.
                    
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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2012, 12:16:46 pm »


That about says it all. ;D

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Re: origin of life... calling falcon and others
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2012, 01:22:38 pm »
That about says it all. ;D

Only if the one saying "that" is woefully bereft of reasoning skills and relies upon specious beliefs in lieu of rational thought.

"The fundamentalists, by 'knowing' the answers before they start, and then forcing nature into the straitjacket of their discredited preconceptions, lie outside the domain of science --or any honest intellectual inquiry."
-- Stephen J. Gould

"Physics isn't a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
-- Leon Lederman
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