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waterbearer94

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if god is real
« on: June 03, 2012, 07:29:00 am »
why would he make us out of his goodness if thats why he did... if some ppl go to hell... how could that be good if he knew some would go to hell and he made them anyways? wouldn't those ppl rather have not been made? and how could he torture them eternally?

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Re: if god is real
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 07:30:54 am »
People believe what ever they are told to believe. It is just easier then thinking for themselves.

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 12:39:12 pm »
I can assure you that all of the xtians here will only give you faulty and vague opinions that will only lead to more questions. To add to your questions though- what about people that have severe mental disorders that cause them to be violent-- mental states that they cannot control. When they cause harm, surely that's unfair to send them to hell for something they cannot control?

Btw I'm very happy to see that you're asking a lot of questions, Waterbearer. Good for you!
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 01:40:35 pm »
why would he make us out of his goodness if thats why he did... if some ppl go to hell... how could that be good if he knew some would go to hell and he made them anyways? wouldn't those ppl rather have not been made? and how could he torture them eternally?

"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves.
An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."
-- Albert Einstein

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 02:22:50 pm »
You are treading on thin water starting a thread about God on FC. I believe! But be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 02:29:46 pm »
You are treading on thin water starting a thread about God on FC. I believe! But be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

You don't scroll down a thread much, do you?  Just see a thread title, shoot-out a remark and bolt, (especially in d&d)?


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Re: if god is real
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 02:34:10 pm »
You are treading on thin water starting a thread about God on FC. I believe! But be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

I don't think anyone "treads on THIN WATER"......

I'm just SURE you MEANT to say treading on THIN ICE......?
                    
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 02:36:19 pm »
You are treading on thin water starting a thread about God on FC. I believe! But be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

I don't think anyone "treads on THIN WATER"......

If they do, the treading is extremely brief, (jesus myths notwithstanding - or "with-walking").

I'm just SURE you MEANT to say treading on THIN ICE......?

Or, maybe "skating on thin water" ...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 02:44:38 pm by falcon9 »
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2012, 03:07:54 pm »
I'm just SURE you MEANT to say treading on THIN ICE......?

Or, maybe "skating on thin water" ...

Oh good GRIEF WHAT a dork....YES I meant SKATING on thin ice. 

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2012, 03:14:41 pm »
I'm just SURE you MEANT to say treading on THIN ICE......?

Or, maybe "skating on thin water" ...

Oh good GRIEF WHAT a dork....YES I meant SKATING on thin ice. 

Either way, the original intention appeared to be suggesting that debating/discussing this topic could be hazardous.
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2012, 03:36:09 pm »
why would he make us out of his goodness if thats why he did... if some ppl go to hell... how could that be good if he knew some would go to hell and he made them anyways? wouldn't those ppl rather have not been made? and how could he torture them eternally?

Exactly the questions that lead one to become an atheist.

I recommend you check out YouTube channels like NonStampCollector and TheThinkingAtheist.  They could help you make sense of these issues.  :)
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2012, 03:46:06 pm »
a slow sunday afternoon,oh yeah i can go to debate and discuss here for something lively didn't disapoint.i'm confused by god also i was raised catholic so because from childhood was given religion, i'm just not sure.know one thing wouldn't be a witness they don't celebrate any holiday not even their own birthdays. kinda away out for christmas when the rest of us are going crazy with shopping ect. they're just chilling

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2012, 03:53:37 pm »
.......be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

Hammered??? Hmmm....
             

NOPE!! I want   Thor 
(THIS Thor.....:heart:!!  ;))

       

operating the hammer, if I'm going to be hammered......
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Re: if god is real
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2012, 04:00:40 pm »
.......be prepared to be hammered by others if you do, just a friendly warning.  :-X

Hammered??? Hmmm....
             

NOPE!! I want   Thor 
(THIS Thor.....:heart:!!  ;))

       

operating the hammer, if I'm going to be hammered......
 ;D

Then that isn't a "hammer" after all - Thor is just happy to see you?
 :o
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2012, 04:02:21 pm »
a slow sunday afternoon,oh yeah i can go to debate and discuss here for something lively didn't disapoint.i'm confused by god also i was raised catholic so because from childhood was given religion, i'm just not sure.know one thing wouldn't be a witness they don't celebrate any holiday not even their own birthdays. kinda away out for christmas when the rest of us are going crazy with shopping ect. they're just chilling

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