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nadarama

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 04:30:50 pm »
God through Jesus Christ the savior is my life! :angel11: :angel12:

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 04:34:45 pm »
YES, I BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE OF HIM WE ARE ALIVE AND HERE. HE IS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER ABOVE THAT KEEPS US SAFE FROM HARM.

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2012, 05:11:56 pm »
YES, I BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE OF HIM WE ARE ALIVE AND HERE. HE IS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER ABOVE THAT KEEPS US SAFE FROM HARM.

Nonsense, there's no evidence to support such a belief.  It's merely an opinion of "faith", (which lacks supporting evidence because of equivalency).


"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758
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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2012, 05:19:16 pm »
Chirp   ;)

Are you having fun, mindlessly trolling my posts?  If so, answer with another cheap cheep, fundie.

“You can not convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it is based on a deep-seated need to believe.”
-– Carl Sagan
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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2012, 06:47:30 pm »
Yes, I do believe in God :icon_rr:

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 07:59:22 pm »
yes i believe in God, no second thought or doubting.
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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2012, 01:40:15 am »
NO!!!!!!!! God is merely a man made idea used to frighten god fearing believers!

To me if there's a god, god wouldn't put so many conditions on how we humans should live or behave. Sometimes the writings of the word of god is too contradictory,too racist,too much of women treated like cattle instead of an equal to men!

To me if god was so perfect, why couldn't god create perfect people, no wars,famine,hate, anger....no sickness, no death.... 
To me god would not only create us in his image but also give us all the gifts that god himself posses.

It's like god is using used materials to create humans! So, no god just flawed  trying to scare the masses in order for them to control the masses?


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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2012, 07:12:52 am »
Falcon and Tan are out numbered, I soooooo believe in God and those who dont are TOTAL MORONS!!...ya ya start with your crap now...again needing that attention...I know the drill, it's freedom of speech and you can comment what ever you want yardy yardy yardy....but STOP trying to convince people who DO believe, that there isnt a God because I myself could give 2 craps what you believe or NOT...here goes now..LOOOOOOOOSERS!!....I have just as much right to say what I feel too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...comeon pipe in now but it's falling on deaf ears!!...done with this topic

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2012, 07:57:50 am »
I firmly believe in God, but I have a few issues with modern day religion. I'm tired of people forcing their religious views on each other. In my opinion, all that matters is that you have faith in something that helps get you through each and every day positively.

Coexist  :peace:
I complete agree. Live and let live. I believe in God and if you don't thats okay. I wont try to convert anyone or condem anyone for there beliefs. You should except people as they are.

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2012, 12:25:44 pm »
Falcon and Tan are out numbered ...

An appeal to the majority is a logical fallacy since sheer mumbers do not confer accuracy upon a specious belief.

I soooooo believe in God and those who dont are TOTAL MORONS!!...

Seriously?  You want to start right off with an irrational insult?  Fine.  A belief in something for which there is zero evidence is not demonstrative of an ability to reason logically.  Since "total morons" are generally unable to employ rational critical thinking skills, such a designation is inapplicable to those who can.

ya ya start with your crap now...again needing that attention...I know the drill, it's freedom of speech and you can comment what ever you want yardy yardy yardy...

Obviously you're the one who wanted such attention by posting your "total moron" trolling remark.

...STOP trying to convince people who DO believe, that there isnt a God ...here goes now..LOOOOOOOOSERS!!....

The presentation of viewpoints opposing blind faith is not intended to convey insight upon the sightless, nor to 'proselytize' reason to those unable to reason.  Instead, it's to let others who have not been assimulated by the xtian "Borg" know that they're not alone in opposing religious tyranny.

I have just as much right to say what I feel too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...comeon pipe in now but it's falling on deaf ears!!...done with this topic

Yes, you do have the "right" to spew religious dogma, specious opinions and religious propaganda - just as others have the same "right" to oppose such.  It's also your option to 'spew-and-run' as you've indicated.

“You can not convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it is based on a deep-seated need to believe.”
-– Carl Sagan
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2012, 12:32:00 pm »
Live and let live. I believe in God and if you don't thats okay. I wont try to convert anyone or condem anyone for there beliefs. You should except people as they are.

Cannibals are people too.  Should they be accepted or 'excepted' as they are?  Why should those who hold the same religious beliefs as those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people, (or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities), be acceptible?  There's no particular requirement to do so and at least some sense of moral imperatives not to.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings."
-- Victor Stenger
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 01:14:26 pm »
Live and let live. I believe in God and if you don't thats okay. I wont try to convert anyone or condem anyone for there beliefs. You should except people as they are.

Cannibals are people too.  Should they be accepted or 'excepted' as they are?  Why should those who hold the same religious beliefs as those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people, (or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities), be acceptible?  There's no particular requirement to do so and at least some sense of moral imperatives not to.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings."
-- Victor Stenger
Regarding your remark I highlighted and underlined, are you insinuating those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people hold the same religious beliefs as myself or many others in here?  If you are, then let me clarify adamantly that my belief in Jesus is nothing of the same beliefs of those evil people.  If you are, then I'm asking respectfully that you retract that "assumption" that you are making, because it is absolutely not true.  In my religious beliefs, we do not do stuff like that nor believe in supporting anything like that.  That is an awfully bold statement, if you are implying that, that is very wrong and dangerously near the edge of inflammation of believers who want nothing of what those evil people did/done/do.  Thank you in advance, unless I am wrong.  It's the way it is written with it's clear implications coming through.

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 01:23:50 pm »
I would like to say that I do not, as a Christian, agree with name-calling on either side.  I've been sparring with falcon9 about respect for the other side's beliefs, while some come in and call him names.  I just want to say I'm not calling you that nor agreeing with that, falcon9.  Some get fed up and have to release their frustration.  Everyone's human, too, and none of us are perfect and calm all of the time.  Our actions, however, speak louder than words, yet on the internet, the words are the actions, because they're what we "see."  I'm totally for respect, as much as possible, between both sides. 

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 01:41:53 pm »
Live and let live. I believe in God and if you don't thats okay. I wont try to convert anyone or condem anyone for there beliefs. You should except people as they are.

Cannibals are people too.  Should they be accepted or 'excepted' as they are?  Why should those who hold the same religious beliefs as those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people, (or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities), be acceptible?  There's no particular requirement to do so and at least some sense of moral imperatives not to.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings."
-- Victor Stenger

Regarding your remark I highlighted and underlined, are you insinuating those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people hold the same religious beliefs as myself or many others in here?

When you cherry-pick something out of context, you're more likely to draw an incorrect conclusion.  That context remains quoted above as '(or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities)'.  That means I don't accept the religious beliefs of those who would and have done such things, (those people were also self-designated xtians).  The other terrorists were self-designated muslims.

If you are, then let me clarify adamantly that my belief in Jesus is nothing of the same beliefs of those evil people.

The religion is the same, the believers are different people.  Now is a good time to recall what was stated about separating the religious belief from the believer.  For instance, I don't regard as all muslims as terrorists however, I do recognise that the terrorists regarded themselves as muslims, (and that some otehr muslims also wished to understandaably distance themselves from their religious 'brethren').  In the same way, I don't regard all xtians as supporters of the Crusades or Inquistions, (though some probably are, as far as the underlying commonality in religious beliefs goes).

If you are, then I'm asking respectfully that you retract that "assumption" that you are making, because it is absolutely not true.  In my religious beliefs, we do not do stuff like that nor believe in supporting anything like that.  That is an awfully bold statement, if you are implying that, that is very wrong and dangerously near the edge of inflammation of believers who want nothing of what those evil people did/done/do.  Thank you in advance, unless I am wrong.  It's the way it is written with it's clear implications coming through.

See the above; staying within context can be more useful than jumping to conclusions.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Do you belive in God
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 03:30:27 pm »
Live and let live. I believe in God and if you don't thats okay. I wont try to convert anyone or condem anyone for there beliefs. You should except people as they are.

Cannibals are people too.  Should they be accepted or 'excepted' as they are?  Why should those who hold the same religious beliefs as those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people, (or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities), be acceptible?  There's no particular requirement to do so and at least some sense of moral imperatives not to.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings."
-- Victor Stenger

Regarding your remark I highlighted and underlined, are you insinuating those who fly aircraft into buildings full of other people hold the same religious beliefs as myself or many others in here?

When you cherry-pick something out of context, you're more likely to draw an incorrect conclusion.  That context remains quoted above as '(or, held such 'festivities' as the Crusades, Inquistions and other atrocities)'.  That means I don't accept the religious beliefs of those who would and have done such things, (those people were also self-designated xtians).  The other terrorists were self-designated muslims.

If you are, then let me clarify adamantly that my belief in Jesus is nothing of the same beliefs of those evil people.

The religion is the same, the believers are different people.  Now is a good time to recall what was stated about separating the religious belief from the believer.  For instance, I don't regard as all muslims as terrorists however, I do recognise that the terrorists regarded themselves as muslims, (and that some otehr muslims also wished to understandaably distance themselves from their religious 'brethren').  In the same way, I don't regard all xtians as supporters of the Crusades or Inquistions, (though some probably are, as far as the underlying commonality in religious beliefs goes).

If you are, then I'm asking respectfully that you retract that "assumption" that you are making, because it is absolutely not true.  In my religious beliefs, we do not do stuff like that nor believe in supporting anything like that.  That is an awfully bold statement, if you are implying that, that is very wrong and dangerously near the edge of inflammation of believers who want nothing of what those evil people did/done/do.  Thank you in advance, unless I am wrong.  It's the way it is written with it's clear implications coming through.

See the above; staying within context can be more useful than jumping to conclusions.

Okay.  Thank you for clarifying more about that.   :cat:

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