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dansazz

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How can someone be born gay?
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:29:03 am »
I would like this explained to me in a way that I can understand. Seems ridiculous that a baby can be gay.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 06:05:23 am »
I am not sure what you mean.  But I now a family where all the kids (3 boys and 1 girl) where gay.  It was something hard to understand but for whateever reason the whole family carried some sort of gene that made them all be gay.

I also know a boy that at age 2 liked to wear dresses and earrings and head ribbons, and play with barbies and make up and no matter what his parents did he refuse to wear anything but girl sutff, he would still them from his sister's room, he had all type of "Boys" toys, trucks and legos and little soldiers, but NO he wanetd to play make up and babies with his sister,  he was a twin.  So it might have something to do with a gene of some kind that twisted the mind and makes go the other way.

I am not sure for a baby, anything younger than 2 is a real baby and they cannot know what is up or down.  But I do believe that some people is born like that.
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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 06:42:55 am »
There is no gene that causes babies to be gay.
The baby is influenced by his or her upbringing....lack of a strong male role model.

Boy is a boy and girl is a girl!
God created man and woman in the beginning, "male and female, He created them."

 Truth is truth.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 07:00:39 am »
But it's totally understandable to you that a baby can be born heterosexual? Because that's what you are so that makes sense? This question is absurd to me.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2012, 07:41:34 am by hvnlydevil »

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 07:04:28 am »
Nobody is born gay and everyone chooses to be gay.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 08:28:50 am »
No one is born gay. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam and Eve and Eve.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 08:50:32 am »
Just like someone can be born with no arms, no legs.  People are born with heart problems, diabetes, bipolar.   Some people are born with with Down Syndrome some are not.  Some are born with great musical, artistic ability, anything you can imagine people can be born with.  I don't believe being gay is a choice just like you can't choose to be born heterosexual.  You can't help being born white, black, albino etc.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 08:50:45 am »
No, I don't believe it.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 09:06:33 am »
I dunno, most babies come out of the womb crying, that's "gay as f**K". honestly though if it was a choice, that is a hard decision to make when someone is barely able to express themselves in a clear manner.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2012, 10:15:32 am »
I think it is perfectly possible for a baby to be born with a gene(s) that causes them to favor the same sex when they mature. Of course babies won't "act gay" just as a heterosexual baby won't start making out with babies of the opposite sex; saying that a baby is born gay just means that they have the gene which will activate at puberty. I think that there may be some people that choose to become gay (or more to the point, to have gay sex), but for the most part it is just something that is intrinsic in them. I've even heard homosexuals lament that they are the way they are; they'd say that if given the choice they'd choose to be heterosexual. Society is set up more for heterosexuals so it is easier to blend in as a heterosexual; there is less stigma being heterosexual; and since the majority of the population is heterosexual, it is easier to find a partner as a straight person.

Even if your belief system states that homosexual sex is a sin, this doesn't negate the fact that some people might be born gay. Even though murder is a sin, a person born paranoid schizophrenic may have the tendency to want to kill other people. Likewise a medically diagnosed depressed person may want to commit suicide which again is a sin according to Christian faith systems. An overweight person may have a thyroid problem even though gluttony is a sin. Etc., etc. At the very least you may want to describe the act as a sin and that a person has a choice whether to engage in that activity. If that were the case, then instead of trying to persecute people for being gay, you may want to try helping them.

BTW, I wish that topics that are this divisive (esp. when the OP seems to be trolling a bit by almost seemingly to be purposefully obtuse to think that a baby will express their sexual preference before there hormones have kicked in to assert late-acting genes) would be posted in the Debate and Discussion section.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 10:53:06 am »
I would like this explained to me in a way that I can understand. Seems ridiculous that a baby can be gay.

Can someone be born stupid?

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 10:57:28 am »
The question makes no sense especially, as someone mentioned, you believe that babies can be born heterosexual and have no problem with that. The only difference between the two is whom the person is attracted to. What exactly don't you get?

The question or questions that need to be asked is how can you believe that someone would choose to be gay? and why would someone choose to be gay?

Is it because they like being made fun of, beat up or even murdered, having their families and/or communities turn their backs on them? Or is because they love being denied rights? How about being push to suicide because of their mistreatment?

Does any of that make sense to you?

The idea of upbringing being the cause is idiotic too. Didn't Dic.k Cheney's daughter just marry her girlfriend? Yeah, I'm sure she was raised in an ultra liberal household  ::) .

Seriously, use your brains or just get off the planet. You can't choose attraction. It's hardwired.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 11:09:56 am »
I've heard this saying before...too many times to count as I have a couple gay/lesbian members in my extended family.  It's one of those things that I don't understand nor agree with.  Like one person said, "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve."  I have never been one to have any gay tendencies so I don't understand what gays feel or how they see things.  To me it's just one more twist through the decades as what society is accepting as being ok and making up every which angle to convince themselves and others that same sex is ok.  I for one don't believe a person is born gay...or there is a gay chromosome. 

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 11:43:22 am »
...The question or questions that need to be asked is how can you believe that someone would choose to be gay? and why would someone choose to be gay?

Is it because they like being made fun of, beat up or even murdered, having their families and/or communities turn their backs on them? Or is because they love being denied rights? How about being push to suicide because of their mistreatment?

Does any of that make sense to you? ...

This is what I agree with.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 11:44:30 am »
I've heard this saying before...too many times to count as I have a couple gay/lesbian members in my extended family.  It's one of those things that I don't understand nor agree with.  Like one person said, "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve."  I have never been one to have any gay tendencies so I don't understand what gays feel or how they see things.  To me it's just one more twist through the decades as what society is accepting as being ok and making up every which angle to convince themselves and others that same sex is ok.  I for one don't believe a person is born gay...or there is a gay chromosome.  

Here's something kookie, how about you ask them?

The fact that you obviously didn't read previous posts that disagree with you in order to make this comment tells me you don't care to understand. You want to believe whatever nonsense prevents you from actually rethinking your currently held beliefs.

You clearly believe that people choose to be gay, so enlighten me... what exactly are the benefits of that choice? Why would someone choose it? Explain to me how that makes any sense to you.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2012, 11:48:43 am by BJohnsonPP »

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