chrisfan48, what you wrote is an unbelievable load of horse s.hit.
Firstly what keeps hate going is people who do not know how to live civilized.
I am a civilized person who happen to answer a question in a public discussion forum.
Part of being a civilized person is the desire to live peacefully among others. One of the best ways to achieve this is by understand the people around you. You have no desire to do this. Your mentally feeds into everything that keep us divided. So no, I wouldn't call you civilized at all.
No I do not think people are born gay. (Neither do most researchers)
No, most researchers don't have a definitive answer but they actually study the subject, they don't just accept nonsense from 2000 year old books written by people who had zero understanding of the world around them. You are no researcher.
Also I would disown my child if one came to me and stated they were gay.
That does not mean I would magically stop loving that child there is no on and off button a parent never stops loving their child and wants to protect them from everything however not being able to accept their sexual preference I would be doing what is best for both of us.
Who cares if you still love them? Your love is meaningless and worthless. A parent that actually wants to protect their child would just protect their child period. Someone knows they are loved through the actions of the person that says they love them. People that beat their spouses say they love them too. Your love is useless. You remove all meaning from the word by your actions.
You don't like to judge but you sure seemed to want to judge me.
I don't know why people say they don't like to judge. I have no problem with it. People that slow down progress in our society with their ridiculous beliefs should be judged.
And just because I find homosexuality wrong , does not mean I would be cruel to anyone I would not. It also does not mean I would be uncivilized I would not. (and as I said civilized people do not breed hate it is uncivilized who hate and then go out and react on that hate that are harmful and keep hate alive)
Disowning your child is cruel. You are being harmful. You do keep hate alive. You are uncivilized.
Before you judge my decision to "disown" and maybe I should clarify I would not disown I would just no longer want a relationship I would not just stop magically unloving my child. My love is unconditional like most parents but I would not want a daily relationship with my child.I would still be there for him/her in an emergency but.........
So, you "clarify" what you mean by "disown" by defining it exactly the way we already know it to be defined? You basically just said "I wouldn't disown my child, I would just disown my child."
What do you think no longer having a relationship with them means? Whether or not you love them has nothing to do with it.
Your "love" (if you want to call it that) is not unconditional. It's not even love. Your "love" is absolutely pointless. What good is it? Seriously? What good does it do your child to have a parent they can't turn to on a regular basis?
...back when I was in high school years a go. My 3rd cousin came out of the closet. His parents were cruel and mean. Like me they were and I will say are civilized people but to him they were monsters. (There are a few gays in our neighborhood they would never treat the way they treated him)
They're not civilized and they are monsters. If you would treat your own flesh and blood worse than someone you have no relation to, you are a horrible human being.
There were several days he spent the afternoon in tears and I felt horrible for him. I didn't understand how they could react in such a way. Right after graduation they told him to get out and never come back. He is now happy in a relationship and they want to adopt. I am happy he is happy because I saw him when he was miserable. Telling him to leave and not come back gave him that happiness though. I know it stung he has been able to move on.
Are you effing serious? Are you that screwed in the head to think that his bigot parents are somehow heroes in this scenario? If he's happy it's despite his homophobic parents, not because of it. You know what would've made him happy beyond belief? Actually still having a family to turn to along with the happiness he found with his partner.
With how you define "love", I shouldn't be shocked with how you define "happiness". Hey, let's deny him that adoption and have him reach euphoria.
If my child were to be gay and come out, whose to say I would not respond like my cousins? I don't show hate and I act in a civilized manner to everyone but what if that ends at home like it did for them??
Your actions are hateful. You are not civilized. You don't know how to define words. Just saying this stuff doesn't make it true.
It would be hurtful to my child to be around me just like it was hurtful for him to be around his parents and I would want my child to have happiness and I would never want to be the cause to damper it even though I would not approve of their choice.
Here's a thought, don't act like a douche towards your child and maybe they'd be happy. Did you ever consider that? I'm sure you haven't because only a civilized person would do that.
Also, you insist on calling it a choice when you've done zero research on the subject. Homosexuals get disowned by their families and communities, denied rights, made fun of and harassed, beat up, pushed to the point of suicide, and in some cases killed. If it's a choice, please enlighten me as to which one of these wonderful outcomes they've decided to chose. What are the benefits of this "choice"? Please answer this.
So I have my reasons for wanting them away form me. I never understood years a go but I understand now it was the best thing they could do for him. Let him go. It stung them all for awhile and then they were all able to move on. I am sorry if that does not make sense to you. But that is how it is.
Bigots trying to spin their bigotry to make it somehow a good thing is all that's happening here.
Oh, I just saw that you responded to another post while I was typing this.
There is no proof that I am however
*Awful human being
Um, everything you say is proof.