So "Obey or suffer eternally". Explain to me how this is not like a robber putting a gun to your head and saying "Give me your belongings or I'll shoot you.". How is this god granting free will again???
ok, my explanation would differ from yours in that I see it more like the top boss that hires someone to do a specific job. (God is top boss, He created everyone with a plan, for a purpose in mind
.) The new hire decides rather than do the job that they were hired for, they would rather do things "their way". The boss gives them multiple written warnings (compare to Biblical warnings
). More time goes by and the new hire gets to feeling really secure doing their own thing. It's only a matter of time before that new hire gets "terminated" (or "fired" in Biblical terms
) as the boss no longer has any use for them.
***I think somewhere the definition of "free will" has gotten misunderstood. Free will isn't that one can do whatever they want and have a free pass to go wherever they want in the next life. Free will simply means one is free to obey God, or don't. He's not going to force anyone to obey Him. However, if one chooses not to obey God, then the time will come when He has no use for them. He's the Creator, seems He can "destroy" what doesn't obey Him any way He chooses. (Ever hear an angry mama tell her kid "I brought you into this world and I can take you out"?
You asked for an example where he commands those who obey him to kill and I gave you one. That notion ended there. However you still have not addressed the genocidal actions.
Ok, which Bible verses are you referring to for the "genocidal actions"??
It does matter how! How can it not matter when a god is going postal and murdering everyone!? Woman and children (and babies) too! There's a major difference with 1 guy killing another and a GOD using his powers to kill EVERYONE ON THE EARTH. I'm honestly surprised you could give such a broad and ignorant answer to cover up this god's horrifying behavior.
But God ISN'T going postal and murdering everyone. People go postal and murder people, do you get as "fired up" over those? When did God use His powers to kill "EVERYONE ON THE EARTH"?? I'm not covering up this "god's horrifying behavior", I'm just not aware of any so please list verses for reference purposes. Thanks.
I cannot understand how you can say "I think He's given everyone enough time, enough warnings, enough chance after chance...that He could be considered a VERY kind and loving deity" when taking into account natural disasters, famine, and plagues. Seriously-- you really need to broaden your horizons in this argument and take into consideration the vast amount of aspects you are either ignoring or are naive to. No offense thrown at your personal stature here-- just something I've noticed in the debate thus far.
Why/how does God get the "credit/blame" for ALL
natural disasters, famine, and plagues?
**End Note/ personal request: It's just a personal request, you don't HAVE to comply as you have "free will". (lol) When re-quoting my posts, please
specify that they are my quotes or keep them separate from other peoples quotes, so as to avoid "confusion". I don't wish for someone to mistakenly think I "said" something when I didn't.
Thanks bunches in advance.