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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2013, 09:41:36 am »
I think people out there who don't want universal health care, must have a lot of money to burn.  I think we should be able to have the same health care bill the Senators and congressmen have.  If they had to do without, they
would change the whole law really really quick.  People in the united states of america, should not be dying just because they can't afford to go to the hospital and buy the meds they need.  Thats just not right, no matter how
you look at it.
People who don't want universal healthcare don't necessarily have money to burn. They just know what happens when the government gets their hands on anything! Also, the only way universal health care would be any good would be if everyone contributed the same, regardless of income or health status, and elimination of the insurance companies (maybe they could have some expensive insurance companies for the rich to buy if they wanted to waste some of their money). With the government always favoring one group over another, that would never happen.
Also, the government would have to keep their noses out of the doctors affairs, and let the doctors be doctors, and prescribe the tests and medications that they know are needed. There is a ton of waste right now, because the insurance companies don't just let the doctor order an MRI, for example, without ordering x-rays first, even though they know the xrays will not show up the potential problems. There are a ton of examples like this, where the doctor has to order a bunch of unnecessary tests before the one he needs to make the diagnosis, or the insurance won't pay for that one.

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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2013, 09:55:21 am »
im all for it,,everyone needs insurance  :bunny:

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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2013, 10:09:50 am »
Universal health care sounds confusing to me. Just reading all the previous comments is making me more confused. Can someone try and explain to my brain what exactly is this universal health care that the government is trying to implement? That's why I don't follow the election and political views because it is so confusing. Not my cup of tea! I heard someone the other day saying that people without health insurance will be fined by the government under the Obama care. Is this legit? I don't have health insurance and am getting a little scared!

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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2013, 11:34:55 pm »
Government and private health and public policy analysts have compared the health care systems of Canada and the United States. In 2004, per-capita spending for health care in the U.S. was more than double that in Canada: in the U.S., it totaled US$6,096; in Canada, US$3,038. Studies have come to different conclusions about the result of this disparity in spending. A 2007 review of all studies comparing health outcomes in Canada and the U.S., in a Canadian peer-reviewed medical journal, found that "health outcomes may be superior in patients cared for in Canada versus the United States, but differences are not consistent."[1] Life expectancy is longer in Canada, and its infant mortality rate is lower than that of the U.S., but there is debate about the underlying causes of these differences. The World Health Organization's ratings of health care system performance among 191 member nations, published in 2000, ranked Canada 30th and the U.S. 37th, and the overall health of Canadians 35th to the American 72nd.[2]

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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2013, 11:39:36 pm »
The health care system in Canada is largely government-funded, with most services provided by private enterprises. Waiting times for major non-emergency surgery have been longer in Canada, and Canada has been slightly slower to adopt expensive technology and medicines. Consequently, Canada has had higher mortality rates for some conditions, such as heart attacks.[3] Canadian health administrators say that these problems are improving.[4]

Through all entities in its public-private system, the U.S. spends more per capita than any other nation in the world, but is one of the few industrialized countries that lacks some form of universal health care. Health insurance in the U.S. is expensive, rapidly rising costs are affecting employers and consumers as well as the government, and a study in Health Affairs concluded that half of personal bankruptcies involved medical bills

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Re: what do you think about universal health care for the united states
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2013, 11:41:27 pm »
As both countries consider changes to their systems, there is debate over whether resources should be added to the public or private sector. Although Canadians and Americans have each looked to the other for ways to improve their respective health care systems, there exists a substantial amount of conflicting information regarding the relative merits of the two systems. In Canada, the United States is used as a model and as a warning against increasing private sector involvement in health care. In the U.S., meanwhile, Canada's mostly monopsonistic health system is seen by different sides of the ideological spectrum as either a model to be followed or avoided.

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