President Obama's Opponents Give Him Too Much Credit

[hitch0403]

Of course Falconer i say that tongue and cheek about you helping me witness.I know deep down inside you dont mean to but your ignorance causes it.Its like you spitting into the wind.

Ill give you some good advice.Quit attacking my posts and then you wont have to deal with my responses.

Is being that self centered more important to you where you just wanna hear yourself talk?

Again it makes no difference to me.God made sure after Jesus answered the Pharisees is was written for a reason.

[hawkeye3210]

Now if you think the bible has NOTHING to do with the events of the world today....LOL...boy are you in for a rude awakening.Jesus predicted over 2000 yrs ago the events of our day,I am sure you know of the date 1914 from Gods people.The book of Revelation speaks of what will happen in our time.Of course i dont expect you to understand it AT ALL!Your heart is so against God and HIS word you would have a better chance picking  6 lotto numbers!!LOL!

Are referring to the failed prophecy of 1914?

[hitch0403]

Failed prophecy of 1914?

This ought to be a good one!!

NO idea what you mean!!

[hawkeye3210]

God's Kingdom was to be fully established on earth in 1914. Did that happen? No. It's pretty cut and dry.

[hitch0403]

Hawkeye...not sure where u got that....it was established in heaven and satan & his hordes were cast from heaven to earth.1914 ushered in beginning of last days that Jesus spoke about telling of signs that would happen then and end with some of those that first saw it.

Preaching work would need to be done Math 24:14......and end with great tribulation where governments would destroy false religion.We are far into that period.Jesus said No ONE except the father would know exact time that would usher in Christs 1000 yr rein on earth from heaven and Satan and hordes would be abyssed.

[hawkeye3210]

Hawkeye...not sure where u got that....it was established in heaven and satan & his hordes were cast from heaven to earth.1914 ushered in beginning of last days that Jesus spoke about telling of signs that would happen then and end with some of those that first saw it.

Preaching work would need to be done Math 24:14......and end with great tribulation where governments would destroy false religion.We are far into that period.Jesus said No ONE except the father would know exact time that would usher in Christs 1000 yr rein on earth from heaven and Satan and hordes would be abyssed.

It was the original prophecy made before 1914. When that didn't come to fruition, the teachings changed.

[hitch0403]

I think rather than have us go back and forth on this ,if you are interested in knowing The Watchtowers explanation of it <which I feel you aren't> in case im wrong just go to Watchtower library and punch in 1914.

Whether you agree with it or not is your business.I know what I was taught and that's how I explained it to you.

[hawkeye3210]

I think rather than have us go back and forth on this ,if you are interested in knowing The Watchtowers explanation of it <which I feel you aren't> in case im wrong just go to Watchtower library and punch in 1914.

Whether you agree with it or not is your business.I know what I was taught and that's how I explained it to you.

The Watchtowers explanation has changed post-1914, which was the point I was making. Pre-1914 was spent promoting the end would occur in 1914.

[hitch0403]

Predicting the end of the system would come in 1914 goes against EVERYTHING Jesus said about the father only KNOWING the time!!!

Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Lets face it,there are many and still are that have supported Jehovahs organization.If they have left and tried to throw a monkey wrench into it does that mean its NOT Gods organization?

Judas was an apostle wasn't he?He betrayed Jesus does that mean the other 11 weren't loyal?

[hitch0403]

You have to also factor in mans imperfections too.The apostle Paul went on a killing spree thinking he had the true religion until Jesus humbled and blinded him.Jesus saw in his heart his zeal was mis-directed and forgave him and he went on to write many books in the bible and know the truth.

Theres a difference between the apostle Paul and Hitler.God sees the heart condition.Honest mistakes can always be made.But when others look for every little imperfection to use it to crush the TRUE God they are doing it for the wrong reason in Jehovahs eyes!!!

Why don't you bring up that 1975 was supposed to be end of world too.Those that preached that were either mis-guided or imperfection again is to blame.....that isn't following Jesus advice of NO ONE knows the day or the hour.

[hawkeye3210]

I'm not sure what you point is. The original 1914 prophecy turned out to be false, which in my eyes doesn't make it any different countless other false prophecies preaching the end of days.

[hitch0403]

If you have no idea what my points were and using that scripture <and im not surprised and I always hope others read this and grasp it>..........

Thanx for the chat

[hawkeye3210]

I grasp the scripture. It goes directly against the Watchtowers original 1914 prophecy. That's what you are failing to grasp.

[mythociate]

Hawkeye...not sure where u got that....it was established in heaven and satan & his hordes were cast from heaven to earth.1914 ushered in beginning of last days that Jesus spoke about telling of signs that would happen then and end with some of those that first saw it.

Preaching work would need to be done Math 24:14......and end with great tribulation where governments would destroy false religion.We are far into that period.Jesus said No ONE except the father would know exact time that would usher in Christs 1000 yr rein on earth from heaven and Satan and hordes would be abyssed.

OH. MY. FLYING-SPAGHETTI-MONSTER. Christianity therefore STEALS Heaven AWAY FROM Christians! Nichiren Buddhism (Nam-MyoHo-RenGe-Kyo) has it right, affirming that Heaven is one of the ten worlds WE ARE ALWAYS IN NO MATTER WHAT OUR LOCATION MAY BE ... sort of like a song I know says, "Heaven Is What You Make It."

All this talk about 'Heaven being some Castle-in-a-Cloud' ... it goes to support atheists (in their support of 'Satan'? )

And this topic isn't ABOUT 'Heaven' or 'Christianity' or 'end-times' or whatever, it's about 'Obama getting too much blame from conservatives!'

[Falconer02]

Falconer....first off,politics bores me to tears.I am 62 and NEVER voted in my life.

And yet here you are in a political thread attempting to add a needless religious twist to everything.

Black people tend to have more humility i think.

...ok?

Plus i saved a bunch of cash with Obamacare.

I had to pay more! Fair system, isn't it? lol

Now if you think the bible has NOTHING to do with the events of the world today....LOL...boy are you in for a rude awakening.Jesus predicted over 2000 yrs ago the events of our day,I am sure you know of the date 1914 from Gods people.The book of Revelation speaks of what will happen in our time.Of course i dont expect you to understand it AT ALL!Your heart is so against God and HIS word you would have a better chance picking  6 lotto numbers!!LOL!

I'm not the one who believes people in the past had 'psychic-prophet' super powers and could predict the future, so I'd say I'm a bit more rational and informed on the matters of current affairs.

I assure you the only reason i remind people that man cannot govern himself successfully apart from God is because the main theme of the bible is Gods kingdom with his son Jesus as king and they will soon put an end to this satanic system.

Some may just want to understand that and i thank you for helping me witness that to them.

Your religion was founded upon false prophecies and it's extremely easy to prove for anyone who's interested. Hawkeye has already proven that you're trying to avoid the truth at all costs. Since you're so bent on trying to convert people on this forum and completely willing to disregard any factual information that presents problems with your reasoning, others like me will be there to warn these individuals of the cult-like mentality and false prophecies this religion has marked on it. You may see it as mean behavior, but it's only fair these individuals hear both sides and decide which makes more sense.