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gizmo42

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Officer Wilson
« on: November 25, 2014, 01:29:49 pm »
Guilty or not guilty. Express your feelings. Tell me what you think.  Are you watching what's going on right now.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 01:44:38 pm »
It is sad that riots have been done in this city. It is sad that someone was killed. It is sad to be that someone who did it. I really do not have any thoughts about this except for that it is a sad situation. I do not know if he was guilty or not but I do know the media has not made this situation any better.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 01:50:10 pm »
This is true but I m not a racist or anything but I bet if it was a black cop on trial he would have been found guilty. Cause when there is cases like this and a white kid is killed by a cop nothing like this takes place am I right or wrong. That's the way I feel 

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 02:33:44 pm »
This is true but I m not a racist or anything but I bet if it was a black cop on trial he would have been found guilty. Cause when there is cases like this and a white kid is killed by a cop nothing like this takes place am I right or wrong. That's the way I feel 

You'd be wrong. Justin Dillon (20 yr old white male) was unarmed and killed by a black cop 2 days before Wilson killed Brown. The cop wasn't charged in that case either.

Debating Guilty/Not Guilty is silly, they didn't even have enough evidence to charge Wilson with a crime.
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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2014, 02:38:13 pm »
Guilty or not guilty. Express your feelings. Tell me what you think.  Are you watching what's going on right now.

The verdict came in.  The cop was found not guilty.  Justice was served, whether we like it or not.  What is happening in the aftermath of the verdict is a disgrace.  Is burning down/shooting up the neighborhood changing anything?  There are less savage ways to make your point and be heard.  However, this will not change the verdict.  The evidence presented obviously proved to the Jury that the PO was not in the wrong.  It's over and time to move on.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2014, 02:59:50 pm »
Guilty or not guilty. Express your feelings. Tell me what you think.  Are you watching what's going on right now.

The verdict came in.  The cop was found not guilty.  Justice was served, whether we like it or not.  What is happening in the aftermath of the verdict is a disgrace.  Is burning down/shooting up the neighborhood changing anything?  There are less savage ways to make your point and be heard.  However, this will not change the verdict.  The evidence presented obviously proved to the Jury that the PO was not in the wrong.  It's over and time to move on.

Actually, the grand jury returned a "No True Bill" on any potential indictment. Wilson was never charged.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2014, 03:19:07 pm »
There was no indictment. But this does not give the rioters and looters the right to destroy and steal from the business or any one else, let alone tear there town apart or burn it. At this point I do not consider them anything but animals. Oh man if white citizens were to do this we would all already been in jail.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 10:17:20 pm »
There was no indictment. But this does not give the rioters and looters the right to destroy and steal from the business or any one else, let alone tear there town apart or burn it. At this point I do not consider them anything but animals. Oh man if white citizens were to do this we would all already been in jail.

I notice when you speak of black people it is always the word animals that you use. I think part of Americas problems starts with people like you. No I do not condone what happen in Ferguson but unless the problem with the mind like of you is addressed there will never be equality. Ferguson has a real problem just like Salt lake city where Dillon was shot. Difference is this Dillon person was seen on camera disobeying the PO and unfortunately for Brown we will never know the truth. Like I said in my comment before this is very sad. What is really sad my son is only 11yrs old and no matter how much I try to teach him right from wrong I am afraid in the end he might end up gunned down just because of his skin color. I worry everyday that this will not happen to my child.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 09:20:18 am »
There was no indictment. But this does not give the rioters and looters the right to destroy and steal from the business or any one else, let alone tear there town apart or burn it. At this point I do not consider them anything but animals. Oh man if white citizens were to do this we would all already been in jail.

I notice when you speak of black people it is always the word animals that you use. I think part of Americas problems starts with people like you. No I do not condone what happen in Ferguson but unless the problem with the mind like of you is addressed there will never be equality. Ferguson has a real problem just like Salt lake city where Dillon was shot. Difference is this Dillon person was seen on camera disobeying the PO and unfortunately for Brown we will never know the truth. Like I said in my comment before this is very sad. What is really sad my son is only 11yrs old and no matter how much I try to teach him right from wrong I am afraid in the end he might end up gunned down just because of his skin color. I worry everyday that this will not happen to my child.
Since vickysue referred to "the rioters and looters" as being like animals, evidently you consider black people to be equivalent to rioters and looters in order to logically connect vickysue's reference to animals to black people. Considering that some of the pictures from the riots showed a mixture of the races involved with the lawlessness, maybe you should consider your own prejudices before pointing the finger at others. To be fair, I think vickysue's final sentence does suggest that your argument may actually be closer to her intent. But considering one of the distinctions between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom is that we are able to reason and live in a society of laws, I too think that the lawlessness of the riots is akin to animalistic behavior regardless of the skin-color of the people conducting this anarchy.

I too saw this whole situation as a sad event. I think all too many people were basing their decision based on a view that this was a racial issue without looking at the facts (and it's unfortunate that some of that evidence was kept from the general public so it didn't give people much time to go through it when they were finally released to the public). But when there were some black witnesses that agreed with Wilson's story and when the grand jury included 2 black women and a black man, this decision looks less to be race motivated and more due to the evidence showing that Wilson was in his right in trying to enforce the law.

I'm still surprised how many people protested this decision as being a failure in our justice system yet no one marched in Cleveland when a true travesty in our legal system came to light when 2 black men were released from prison after 40 years! for a crime they didn't commit. I would have thought that people who were really concerned about injustices in our system would have been marching in Ohio earlier this month when it came to light that the sole witness admitted to making the whole thing up under intimidation by the police while being questioned. I'm much more upset that police intimidation of a witness lead to the imprisonment of 2 black men for the majority of their lives, than I am about a police officer that kills a teen that bull rushed that armed officer after having committed a crime.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2014, 10:40:16 am »
Very strong comments from all. But to me it feels like something is not right with this whole thing I feel that Wilson is not telling the whole story I believe there is more than meets the eye.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2014, 01:17:33 pm »
Very strong comments from all. But to me it feels like something is not right with this whole thing I feel that Wilson is not telling the whole story I believe there is more than meets the eye.

Forensic evidence and eyewitness testimony corroborate Wilson's story.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2014, 02:11:11 pm »
Very strong comments from all. But to me it feels like something is not right with this whole thing I feel that Wilson is not telling the whole story I believe there is more than meets the eye.

Forensic evidence and eyewitness testimony corroborate Wilson's story.
I still think something is not right. How did blood get in the police officers car. There was no need to shoot him period. He could have taken another source of action pepper spray or maybe tazed but not shoot him when he was unarmed.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 02:25:28 pm »
Very strong comments from all. But to me it feels like something is not right with this whole thing I feel that Wilson is not telling the whole story I believe there is more than meets the eye.

Forensic evidence and eyewitness testimony corroborate Wilson's story.
I still think something is not right. How did blood get in the police officers car. There was no need to shoot him period. He could have taken another source of action pepper spray or maybe tazed but not shoot him when he was unarmed.

Brown went to the police car and punched the cop multiple times while Wilson was still in the car. He was then shot as Wilson defended himself, which is why blood was in the car. The blood in the car corroborates Wilson's story.

Pepper spray?? You've got to be kidding me. That's not going to subdue the threat. And yes, being unarmed doesn't mean he was not a threat. Could a taser have worked? Maybe, maybe not. But it really doesn't matter because Wilson didn't have a taser on him.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 03:07:29 pm »
Really hard to be objective in this case. Each side feels very strongly. That being said, I firmly believe that some of the strong feelings and violent acts of the protestors were instigated and perpetuated by outside influences such as Al Sharpton and other out of towners who enjoy the violence and destruction and want to keep in the limelight for a while to further their own influence.

I don't think the people of Ferguson wanted to destroy their whole community during this investigation. What good does that do to strengthen your case? Groups from all over the country were involved in the demonstrations and determined what justice demanded before all the facts were heard and brought to light.

I feel that the grand jury examined all evidence in this particular instance and didn't find cause to indict Officer Wilson. Case closed. Perhaps the protestors should move on to another case that would prove their allegations. When there are clear instances of racial prejudice, it should be addressed. Peaceful demonstration would then be justified.

However, there are such strong feelings involved at this point, it probably is very hard to wind down and move on. Once you get fired up, it's hard to back off.

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Re: Officer Wilson
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2014, 07:26:31 am »
i think that he was justified in his action as he feared for his life and the young man should have strove for something bigger then thug life.  i also find it terrible that you feel the need to destroy not only your own town but other peoples ways of life.  Not to mention the fact that most of the business that have been destroyed were owned by African Americans.

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