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hitch0403

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 01:17:48 pm »
The standard here is what does God have to say about these celebrations.And when you do the research he doesnt approve.

Just because 1 says they are christian are they really in Gods eyes?

The Pharisees said they worshiped God....Jesus told them they were from their father the devil.

To sin means to miss the mark in Gods eyes or what HE approves of.

Getting together and eating and drinking with loved ones isnt condemned in the bible.It is actually approved for a hard working family seeing the fruits of their labor.

I used the example of AAron when he tried to compromise false worship with true worship.Jehovah didnt approve of that.You can read it in Exodus.

Again whats wrong with this world is deciding for ourselves what is good and bad.Without Gods rulership the condition of the world speaks for itself.

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 02:33:21 am »
So the JWs are against celebrating the new year too. Why am I not surprised? Since you seem to find Christmas,Thanksgiving,Birthdays and probably Arbor Day as offensive.You guys are the biggest kill joys of the civilized world!LOL

The only thing you can observe is Maundy Thursday. And you do realize that Thursday was named for the norse "god" Thor! You're celebrating on a day devoted to a pagan god! Blasphemy! Blasphemy!

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 02:26:03 pm »
So the JWs are against celebrating the new year too. Why am I not surprised? Since you seem to find Christmas,Thanksgiving,Birthdays and probably Arbor Day as offensive.You guys are the biggest kill joys of the civilized world!LOL

The only thing you can observe is Maundy Thursday. And you do realize that Thursday was named for the norse "god" Thor! You're celebrating on a day devoted to a pagan god! Blasphemy! Blasphemy!


Math 7:13......."Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2015, 02:51:32 pm »
You've completely evaded the issue. If we can't celebrate the New Year because January was named for the pagan god   Janus, how can we observe Maundy Thursday,when the day itself is dedicated to the pagan god Thor?

It's the unnecessary burden you put upon yourselves to distance yourselves from superstitions. Paints had it right.You are taking an approach that the Pharisees took towards observances. And we all know how Jesus denounced their practices. 

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2015, 03:39:54 pm »
There are situations in the bible where obedience to God comes before anything else.

The apostels said,we must obey God over man

3 obedient slaves of God wouldnt bow before Nebuchadnezzar and risked death

The point here is NOT me.It is obeying what Jehovah rules.This world is ruled by Satan.There is enuff in the bible that states that.These holidays are pagan and originated with the spirit of this world.You and paints have no idea what you are speaking about with Jesus.I use the example of Jesus condemning the Pharisees because they didnt back him as God son.Yet they had their ways and eventually killed him.

I told u a zillion times u cant serve 2 masters.That is in bible.Seriously dont care if you anna observe all the pagan crap here on earth.Then you write scripture..........what a joke.

YOU cant serve 2 masters and you try to do just that......wake up!!!

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2015, 03:50:24 pm »
BTW JJ......feel free to look up my reference to January in the WBE....you have the info there in my post....

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2015, 05:13:58 pm »
Oh 1 other thing JJ...last yr the Lords evening meal was celebrated on 4/14 Monday....not a Thurs.But Passover comes different every yr and on different days.....You may have celebrated your so called Maundy or whatever it is.If Passover comes on a Thurs...so be it...i actually think 1 yr The day came on Easter Sunday....so go learn how to figure it out <i know u have no intentions>.....this yr it is 4/3 Fri....and Good Fri has nothing to do with it....sober up from your pagan revelry!!

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2015, 05:46:22 pm »
Well,not every Christian gets drunk for New Years celebrations,but I appreciate your concern.

It makes little difference what day you observe your memorial feast,each day of the week is named for a different pagan god.The names of the months are quite the same. The point is,you will never be able to fully divorce your "True celebration" from the so called "pagan influence" of the day any more than all these other celebrations you claim to denounce. If your celebration lands on a day and month named for pagan gods,it's ok to celebrate.But people who want to set aside a day to give thanks to God,or give special honor to His Son's birth or to dedicate oneself for the Lord for the New Year- that's all Satanic in your world view, due to it's supposed ties to paganism that hasn't had anything to do the observance for centuries.

You need to take your own advice and wake up. Like the Pharisees you are straining out a gnat and instead swallowing a camel!

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2015, 06:39:15 pm »
I suggest you read the bible and see what day Christ says to keep rememberance of him on!!

You read and interpet the bible as if you are STILL drunk!!

RU sure you havent stopped celebrating yet???

LOL!!
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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2015, 06:49:54 pm »
Whats next for you......Ground Hog Day???

You gonna buy ground hog pair of sun-glasses?

Or maybe St Valentines Day?This way we can hear how this nonsense started in your repertoire

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2015, 01:56:39 am »
I suggest you read the bible and see what day Christ says to keep rememberance of him on!!

You read and interpet the bible as if you are STILL drunk!!

RU sure you havent stopped celebrating yet???

LOL!!

And that is exactly what Christians are doing by celebrating His birth.Yet you can't except that despite Paul's admonishments not to judge others. (Romans 14:5)

Your rules for celebrations are ripe with hypocrisy.You must be drunk on the Watchtower's kool aid not to see it! 

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2015, 05:31:52 am »
I'm a Child of Christ and am not different than any other sinner out there.  I celebrated New Years differently for the first time this year.  I went to a New Years Eve service at Church.  Came home and my guy and I shared a glass of wine.  We played bowling and basketball on wii sports resort... watched a movie (I fell asleep around 10:30)  I wouldn't mind bringing the new year in like that every year.

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2015, 02:02:31 pm »
You are suffering from Falconitis JJ.So you take it out on Watchtower Society......and why?Because you support Satans ruling.It makes no different to you and others here that Jesus says,my kingdom in no part of this world and the whole world lies in power of wicked one!!

And you call me blind!!

Go read Ex 20:5 and see how Jehovah feels about pagan gods!!

BTW what is your gods name?LOL!!Actually i know.......if you support this world it is satan.

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2015, 02:51:07 pm »
I'm going to point this out one more time,because we're going in circles. You are going against the principles taught by Paul that people should be allowed "special" days of worship if they choose.It's not obligated.It's not mandatory. But neither you,nor the Watchtower have any right to go against God's principle taught in Romans 14 (once again,for those who came in late.....
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.  Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.  For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone.  If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.  For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.)

You are using superstition to compare the origins of other holidays and observances to paganism,while ignoring any ties to paganism that your celebration has. To wit: Christmas must be evil because it was set up by the church fathers as a rival celebration to paganism.Yet,if your celebration lands on a day dedicated to a pagan god,well,that's ok because you're not celebrating paganism. But,in truth, neither are the people celebrating Christmas.It's hypocrisy,pure and simple.

If you believe celebrating Christmas and the like is evil,you must believe other superstitions as well.If you step on a crack,won't you really break your momma's back?
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 03:22:40 pm by JediJohnnie »

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Re: Are New Year’s celebrations objectionable for Christians?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2015, 03:13:05 pm »
The fact is, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has been terribly inconsistent in its teachings on whether or not Jesus should be worshiped. In the past few decades Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Watchtower magazine has claimed that “…it is unscriptural for worshipers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God, Jesus Christ” (1964, p. 671; see also 2004, pp. 30-31). But, “from the beginning it was not so.” Notice what Jehovah’s Witnesses used to teach in The Watchtower regarding whether or not Jesus should be worshiped:

“…to worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong” (1880, p. 83).
“…although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, it evidently could not be improper to do so; for such a course is nowhere prohibited, and the disciples worshiped him” (1892, p. 1410).
“Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so” (1898, p. 2331).
“…whosoever should worship Him must also worship and bow down to Jehovah’s Chief One in that capital organization, namely, Christ Jesus…” (1945, p. 313).
For more than half of a century, Jehovah’s Witnesses taught that it was acceptable to worship Jesus. Now, however, they claim it is unscriptural. Such inconsistency regarding the nature of Christ (which is no small matter!) reveals to the honest truth seeker that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is an advocate of false doctrine.

If the Watchtower can't even get their act together regarding the deity of Christ,how can they be trusted at all?

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