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loulizlee

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Re: Respect for Disabled Individuals
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2015, 04:32:14 pm »
I watch a lot of the shows on Investigation Discovery.  Yesterday there was an episode about an Asian woman who was a hard worker at a grocery store, but one employee would hassle her constantly.  It had gone on for months until finally, in frustration, she blurted out a threat to him. b He went to the manager, and the manager, as he had before, took the abuser's side and fired the woman.  She had been in a terrible depression, but that was the last straw.  Because of her culture, this was perceived as bringing irreparable shame to her family.  She got a gun and killed the man who had bullied her and the manager and is now in prison.

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 10:11:52 am »
I feel for you Cbsteffen, but I don't think a pre-employment test is a practical solution.  We need to start younger, in school, with sensitivity training and mental health awareness.  Even the assistance people in my town could use it.  So if schools teach the kids the kids will take it home and conversations will be started.  Parents will realize what they're doing and become better people and it'll spiral up from there.  In the meantime we should all be the kindest, best people we can be.  We need to be the change we want to see.  We can change the world this way.  :peace: :highfive: :angel11:

Well, I did do advocacy for a class that studied disabilities mentioning how I got mistreated.
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 10:25:41 am »
I don't think it's realistic to expect people to know every single thing about nay subject, but I definitely agree that more needs to be done.

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 10:39:35 am »
I don't think it's realistic to expect people to know every single thing about any subject, but I definitely agree that more needs to be done.

Yes, it does sound harsh, but I want the only way to pass a test like that to be to answer all of the questions right for everyone's safety and respect for every disabled individual. Many people who had a leadership position and did not clearly know what it's like to have autism hurt my emotions really badly and got away with that. Don't find anything I am saying unheard of. I remember in an Applied Technology class I had to take in middle school, there was an unofficial 20 question test you had to answer every question correctly on in order to earn the right to operate machinery because anybody can get mangled by any mechanical apparatus and wind up in the hospital if he or she doesn't know literally everything about operating machinery properly.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 10:53:38 am »
I partially agree with you.  However some people can't express their knowledge well in a testing situation.  In many situations, the level of knowledge that a person may have is not known completely until the person is really doing the actual work.
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 02:39:53 pm »
I don't think it's realistic to expect people to know every single thing about any subject, but I definitely agree that more needs to be done.

Yes, it does sound harsh, but I want the only way to pass a test like that to be to answer all of the questions right for everyone's safety and respect for every disabled individual. Many people who had a leadership position and did not clearly know what it's like to have autism hurt my emotions really badly and got away with that. Don't find anything I am saying unheard of. I remember in an Applied Technology class I had to take in middle school, there was an unofficial 20 question test you had to answer every question correctly on in order to earn the right to operate machinery because anybody can get mangled by any mechanical apparatus and wind up in the hospital if he or she doesn't know literally everything about operating machinery properly.

Taking a test to operate machinery isn't remotely similar.

Most people in a leadership position won't have an employee with autism. I don't. The cost to implement some universal test would be enormous. It's just not practical. Something like this would be up to the company to implement.

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2015, 03:33:45 pm »
I lean more toward disagreeing about the issue. If a person went to school and got all certificates and all documents to work plus experience, that by itself is enough to say that the person deserves the job and does not need additional testing. I do agree that the IQ test would be a good idea to give to students or kids who are starting school to see where their level of understanding is. I know that there are people with learning disabilities out there. I personally have a friend and my own sister who are struggling with learning disabilitiy and its hard but they both have a job according to their level of understanding and strength.

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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2015, 04:10:01 pm »
I feel for you Cbsteffen, but I don't think a pre-employment test is a practical solution.  We need to start younger, in school, with sensitivity training and mental health awareness.  Even the assistance people in my town could use it.  So if schools teach the kids the kids will take it home and conversations will be started.  Parents will realize what they're doing and become better people and it'll spiral up from there.  In the meantime we should all be the kindest, best people we can be.  We need to be the change we want to see.  We can change the world this way.  :peace: :highfive: :angel11:

It is not the school's responsibility to teach kids how to act.  It is the parent's place to do this.

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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2015, 04:13:21 pm »
I watch a lot of the shows on Investigation Discovery.  Yesterday there was an episode about an Asian woman who was a hard worker at a grocery store, but one employee would hassle her constantly.  It had gone on for months until finally, in frustration, she blurted out a threat to him. b He went to the manager, and the manager, as he had before, took the abuser's side and fired the woman.  She had been in a terrible depression, but that was the last straw.  Because of her culture, this was perceived as bringing irreparable shame to her family.  She got a gun and killed the man who had bullied her and the manager and is now in prison.

AND ... she deserves to be in prison.   

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2015, 04:19:36 pm »
I don't think it's realistic to expect people to know every single thing about any subject, but I definitely agree that more needs to be done.

Yes, it does sound harsh, but I want the only way to pass a test like that to be to answer all of the questions right for everyone's safety and respect for every disabled individual. Many people who had a leadership position and did not clearly know what it's like to have autism hurt my emotions really badly and got away with that. Don't find anything I am saying unheard of. I remember in an Applied Technology class I had to take in middle school, there was an unofficial 20 question test you had to answer every question correctly on in order to earn the right to operate machinery because anybody can get mangled by any mechanical apparatus and wind up in the hospital if he or she doesn't know literally everything about operating machinery properly.

Scoring 100% on a test to operate machinery is not the same thing as expecting someone to know every law concerning disability.  It seems like you are just looking for a reason to get your feelings hurt.  Like I said before whatever was said that hurt your feelings most likely had nothing to do with a supposed disability.  Most people who say they have autism or their parents say they have autism you would never know it unless someone told you. 

I saw a man at Walmart berating an employee because HE needed a riding wheel chair and was mad because they were all in use.  I just shook my head.  What makes him think he is more special or needs the chairs more than the others who are already using them?  Sadly most people in the world are just like he is.  They basically expect everyone to bow down and cater to them.  And that's not going to happen.

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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2015, 06:55:18 pm »
I did some more thinking and decided that only a test would sound too premature. I thought making the law also require whomever plans to study a career about leadership in any school to take a class about disabilities. That class might or might not be called Individuals with Disabilities.
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