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JediJohnnie

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Gotham
« on: October 04, 2015, 07:30:39 pm »
Well, Gotham is back for a new season. SPOILERS

Bruce and Alfred got into the Batcave

James Frain is playing the season's new heavy, who has taken Jerome (Joker) and Barbara (Gordon's Ex) under his wing in an attempt to take over Gotham.

Jerome killed Commissioner Essen (I didn't see that coming!)

Selina is now working for Penguin

Edward is rapidly losing his sanity (eventually to become The Riddler)

Certainly a step up from last season. 


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Re: Gotham
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2015, 04:43:35 pm »
Well thanks for the info. I do enjoy this show.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2015, 08:43:46 am »
Well, Gotham is back for a new season. SPOILERS

Jerome killed Commissioner Essen (I didn't see that coming!)

And then Jerome got killed himself... I REALLY didn't see that coming. I guess I assumed he was going to be the Joker... Perhaps he is the spark that gives the Joker his psychotic ideas.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2015, 03:45:39 pm »
Is he really dead?  I doubt it.  Stay tuned, same bat channel, same bat time.  ;)

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 04:18:32 am »
I love this show .. so glad it is back
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Re: Gotham
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 09:09:00 am »
Is he really dead?  I doubt it.  Stay tuned, same bat channel, same bat time.  ;)

Right?! I hope they don't use some gimmick to bring him back, but that's usually the trend with dramas that kill off "major" characters... I think that was why it was such a shocker when Ned was truly killed in GoT; it made the story that much more realistic if no one -- not even a major character -- was safe.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 09:18:50 am »
Really enjoy the show.
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Re: Gotham
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 12:29:08 am »
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed that they killed off Jerome. :( That guy was one of the best live action Jokers. I don't see him coming back. The WB doesn't allow the same characters on TV at the same time as the movies (And Joker will be in the Suicide Squad movie next year)

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015, 06:00:43 am »
I thought about checking it out but I would have to watch from the beginning.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 10:42:40 am »
I am wondering more and more whether Jerome was actually meant to be the Joker... Gotham is supposed to be the chronicles of a pre-Batman Gotham, so the stories are more about the back-story of the characters found in the comics. For example, Gerard Crane in Gotham was trying to induce fears in others using toxins / psychology. And in the comics, the Scarecrow aka Dr. Crane has the same MO. When I first watched the episode with Gerard Crane, I first thought that he was the same as the Scarecrow in the comics. But as I did a little more research (my Batman knowledge isn't completely perfect) I realized that that episode was probably much more meant as the back-story to the actual Scarecrow... In Gotham, Gerard Crane had a son who at the end of the episode, Gerard had inflicted his son with the same drugs in an effort to control his son's fears; however the "treatment" went wrong and the son now suffers from a Scarecrow phobia. This son's name is Jonathan Crane, which is the same as the alter-ego of Scarecrow in the comics. Thus I now believe that Gerard Crane was not supposed to be the Scarecrow but rather shows the origin of how his son will eventually take over that villainous role.

Likewise Jerome is probably not in fact the Joker, but is a pre-cursor to who will eventually become the Joker. Remember that Theo remarked on Jermone's laugh, which was shown as the trigger of insane acts of violence by several other people following Jerome's death. Thus I'm thinking that Gotham's Joker is probably someone that is trying to emulate Jerome, including his infectious laugh. Furthermore, Gotham has shown a Red Hood episode showing the exploits of the Red Hood Gang; at the end of the episode, all former members of the gang have been killed, but the hood itself was picked up by a young boy... In the comics, the Joker was originally one of the people to take up the Red Hood mantel; it was while making a heist at a chemical plant where he, while wearing the Red Hood, jumps into a vat of chemicals that leads to the Joker's deformities / coloration as he attempts to escape Batman. So I'm thinking that the Red Hood episode in Gotham was also meant to act as the back-story as to how whoever becomes the Joker originally started as Red Hood (as the boy that picked up the hood in the end of the episode).
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Re: Gotham
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 10:45:37 am »
I love how you know all the characters names. I enjoy the show. 

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2015, 12:45:46 am »
I'm of the opinion that the Joker's origin should never be told, so in a sense, I'm alright with losing Jerome. But he made a really good Joker.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 07:16:45 am »
I was fine with Jerome biting the big one. The Joker's origin should be ambiguous, one of the great mysteries that should never be solved. That was screwed up when Wolverine finally got his official origin. I hope Joker's origin is never defined.

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Re: Gotham
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2015, 08:20:14 am »
I need to see the last 2 episodes been busy on Mondays, I guess I will catch up this weekend but it sounds interesting, the only one I do not get is Barbara, I always though that Jim Gordon was married to Barbara, but I have to say the actress does I very good job.  And I miss Fish
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Re: Gotham
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2015, 09:33:22 am »
I love this show ... thanks for the updates
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