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liljp617

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2009, 07:07:08 pm »
It's been 6-7 months.  Very few President's have done anything useful in their first year of Presidency.

  Have you forgotton 9-11 just 8 months+ into Bush's 1st year?  Obama isn't waiting for his 1st disaster, He is going to create 1.

Not seeing your point.

Either way, if you really think the President has this crazy power to destroy everything you should go take a few more political science classes.

nobody said the president has power to destroy everything...he just has a role to act like the guy who is doing it

When somebody tells me "Obama isn't waiting for a disaster, he's going to create his own," it implies they believe he actually has this unlimited power to create global or national disasters in the snap of a finger...

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2009, 07:18:25 pm »
yeah Obama wouldnt be the one who creates any sort of terror, it would be bigger than him, he would probably just be some symbolic or otherwise psychologically strategic political figure to help control the population.  For example Bush got all the right wing cowboy gun toting and often racist individuals all rallying for the US and more war... and those leftwing who want to work more domestically and rally behind Obama the left symbol of today, are against war. That was one of the main things voting him in... if he "has no choice" after some sort of attack, surely he will get much support from the 'left' as well which is a large amount who did not support before... so its in a way just a different 'market' they are appealing to for the next few years.. the agenda is the same in the long run, sure a few fringe issues or lesser important things like Gay Marriage may differ among the candidates for good debate and something to watch on tv during election time, but the real issues like abolishing the fed or changing monetary system in ANY way, are never discussed.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2009, 09:20:39 pm »
I used 2 but now I dont :(

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 08:58:19 am »
Did anyone see the magazine featuring Michelle Obama giving gardening tips? I am so glad we have time to swap gardening tips while our fellow countrymen are starving, losing their jobs, losing their homes, and losing their life savings! Maybe she was trying to avert our attention somewhere other than the hardships were are facing. Maybe she was hinting that we should all start gardens to help feed our neighbors. Maybe she was telling us to start gardening because soon all of the food we buy will be too expensive for any of us to afford. Either way, I though this article was irrelevant in this country's desperate time of need. Here I thought she was an educated woman, but the only thing she could interview about was gardening? How about you get out of that garden and start digging into your bank personal account to help feed the homeless! Any of us can look up on the internet gardening tips if we wanted them!

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 09:06:04 am »
Not so much almost a year later.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2009, 09:14:52 am »
I want to, but I just can't.  I don't see any real proof that I should trust the guy.  He hasn't fixed anything.  He hasn't gotten anywhere with the health crisis.  As far as the bail out plan goes, I don't think it was executed right.  The people should have been given vouchers to pay to the banks that they owe money to for mortgage and credit-that way it would have actually HELPED the people and the banks would have gotten the moeny too! 
Nope-I can't say I like where this is going. 
On the other hand, I have to say that there is NO WAY I would want that job!  Too many people expecting too much out of you-and you actually have an obligation to give it!  He has a tough job and he's handling it well as a person, but I don't like the decisions he's making.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2009, 09:19:40 am »
Very well put! I agree wholeheartedly!

"On the other hand, I have to say that there is NO WAY I would want that job!  Too many people expecting too much out of you-and you actually have an obligation to give it!  He has a tough job and he's handling it well as a person, but I don't like the decisions he's making."

It is much easier to judge from the outside looking in!

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2009, 02:17:51 pm »
i don't personally believe in him, no.

but i DO believe that he still has plenty of time to prove me wrong.
we'll just have to see.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2009, 02:48:17 pm »
If the president was a real man... he would not be taking a fricking vacation while other men fight a war. If I was there, I would truly want to end the war that people are living and dying through, so I would be sure not to rest until I get them out.. that means if they have a mission to do, I would get it carried out immediately to bring them home... or else just bring them home... I wouldnt be wasting a single day on 'vacation' while they were dying... each day I took vacation could mean more deaths, and even ONE death over my vacation wouldnt be acceptable....

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2009, 05:09:31 pm »
believe? no... but i hope he does well, just for the sake of our country

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2009, 05:22:45 pm »
I don't know enough about the guy to feel confident to make a judgment. I just hope all  goes well.
Poor guy, he's got so much pressure on him.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2009, 11:14:43 pm »
No.  I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but now I believe he is just going to get us deeper in debt and cost us even more by the end of his term.  I could be wrong, but as of right now I don't think he knows what he is doing. :dontknow:

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2009, 05:57:01 am »
If the president was a real man... he would not be taking a fricking vacation while other men fight a war. If I was there, I would truly want to end the war that people are living and dying through, so I would be sure not to rest until I get them out.. that means if they have a mission to do, I would get it carried out immediately to bring them home... or else just bring them home... I wouldnt be wasting a single day on 'vacation' while they were dying... each day I took vacation could mean more deaths, and even ONE death over my vacation wouldnt be acceptable....
He's not Eisenhower. He's not sitting around a table drawing up battle plans.
His daily involvement has nothing to do with a single U.S. casualty or lack thereof.

And if you think burning yourself out is the most effective way to operate a command position, you're wrong. That makes your entire overall effort of poorer quality.

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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2009, 08:12:34 am »
No.  I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but now I believe he is just going to get us deeper in debt and cost us even more by the end of his term.  I could be wrong, but as of right now I don't think he knows what he is doing. :dontknow:

Government debt has little bearing on anything.  Consumer debt is the problem.  The government has the capability to get itself out of debt fairly easily if it chooses that course of action; consumers do not have this capability.

Never mind that the US government has been in debt almost its entire existence, and we've accomplished plenty in the past decades or centuries we've been in debt.
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Re: Do you belive in obama?
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2009, 08:19:44 am »
I don't believe in our present president. I think he is to quick to spend our money and make decisions for our lives.

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