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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #165 on: July 07, 2019, 12:50:18 pm »
Romans 3:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Romans 5:12-21 New King James Version (NKJV)
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 1st Corinth 15:22 New International Version
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.Many are bewildered at how the human body heals itself and then are puzzled why it grows old and dies.Result of penalty of inherited sin as scripture states.



Math 20:28
28  Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to ministera and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”b



Math 20:28
28  Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to ministera and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”b
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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #166 on: July 07, 2019, 12:56:07 pm »
Why would Paul say he would rather depart and be with Christ, if he's merely saying he wants to sleep?

Paul was to be 1 of the 144000 who will get heavenly life

As far as what Jesus told the thief,paradise will be here on earth thru Gods kingdom or government.Gods original purpose was for man to take care of the earth and turn the earth into a paradise until they rebelled.But the name Jehovah means "he causes to become"....that will happen once God cleans up this Satanic system soon.

Jesus clearly said Lazarus was asleep i must awaken him

Eccl 9:5 clearly states the condition of the dead and God told Adam he would go back to dust.Dust IS NOT life.


The Second to the Corinthians
4 :4 2 Corinthians 4:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #167 on: July 07, 2019, 01:34:47 pm »
Why would Paul say he would rather depart and be with Christ, if he's merely saying he wants to sleep?

Paul was to be 1 of the 144000 who will get heavenly life

As far as what Jesus told the thief,paradise will be here on earth thru Gods kingdom or government.Gods original purpose was for man to take care of the earth and turn the earth into a paradise until they rebelled.But the name Jehovah means "he causes to become"....that will happen once God cleans up this Satanic system soon.

Jesus clearly said Lazarus was asleep i must awaken him

Eccl 9:5 clearly states the condition of the dead and God told Adam he would go back to dust.Dust IS NOT life.


The Second to the Corinthians
4 :4 2 Corinthians 4:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The theological errors here are amazing.

Paul clearly states he longs to be with Christ. So conveniently, the Watchtower makes him one of the '144000'. Where is the documentation for this great revelation?  It isn't found in scripture, that's for sure.

Jesus said "Today you will be with me in paradise." TODAY. Not the end of the age. Try again.

The Apostles made the same wrong assumption the Watchtower has, so Christ actually explained the euphemism to them. (it's clearly there had you bothered to finish reading the verse) John 11:11-15

After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

So again, you're going to need to try harder to have any of the Watchtower's faulty interpretations make sense. 

Or you could come to the realization that they've led you astray and come to know the True Jesus of Scripture.

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #168 on: July 07, 2019, 01:50:28 pm »
Why would Paul say he would rather depart and be with Christ, if he's merely saying he wants to sleep?

Paul was to be 1 of the 144000 who will get heavenly life

As far as what Jesus told the thief,paradise will be here on earth thru Gods kingdom or government.Gods original purpose was for man to take care of the earth and turn the earth into a paradise until they rebelled.But the name Jehovah means "he causes to become"....that will happen once God cleans up this Satanic system soon.

Jesus clearly said Lazarus was asleep i must awaken him

Eccl 9:5 clearly states the condition of the dead and God told Adam he would go back to dust.Dust IS NOT life.


The Second to the Corinthians
4 :4 2 Corinthians 4:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The theological errors here are amazing.

Paul clearly states he longs to be with Christ. So conveniently, the Watchtower makes him one of the '144000'. Where is the documentation for this great revelation?  It isn't found in scripture, that's for sure.

Jesus said "Today you will be with me in paradise." TODAY. Not the end of the age. Try again.

The Apostles made the same wrong assumption the Watchtower has, so Christ actually explained the euphemism to them. (it's clearly there had you bothered to finish reading the verse) John 11:11-15

After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

So again, you're going to need to try harder to have any of the Watchtower's faulty interpretations make sense. 

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #169 on: July 07, 2019, 10:03:56 pm »
Not sure many know this.A few yrs back Trumps son-in-law bought the Brooklyn based Watchtower building for $340 million dollars.Ponder that and then ask yourself what Gods name is.Now that looks more like a blessing from God then finding a bread machine.....lol!!Not too mysterious there...eh?I thought i might add to those that call JWs a cult or a fake religeon,Trumps SIL risking $340 million???

Lets also look at Math 24:14.It says the good news about Gods kingdom the only hope for mankind on earth will be preached worldwide and then the end of this Satanic manmade world will be put in oblivion.

So the fact thats JWs are in over 240 lands in the world and preaching & teaching the good news whattya think?Millions of FREE hrs!!!

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #170 on: July 08, 2019, 06:21:50 pm »
Why would Paul say he would rather depart and be with Christ, if he's merely saying he wants to sleep?

Paul was to be 1 of the 144000 who will get heavenly life

As far as what Jesus told the thief,paradise will be here on earth thru Gods kingdom or government.Gods original purpose was for man to take care of the earth and turn the earth into a paradise until they rebelled.But the name Jehovah means "he causes to become"....that will happen once God cleans up this Satanic system soon.

Jesus clearly said Lazarus was asleep i must awaken him

Eccl 9:5 clearly states the condition of the dead and God told Adam he would go back to dust.Dust IS NOT life.


The Second to the Corinthians
4 :4 2 Corinthians 4:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The theological errors here are amazing.

Paul clearly states he longs to be with Christ. So conveniently, the Watchtower makes him one of the '144000'. Where is the documentation for this great revelation?  It isn't found in scripture, that's for sure.

Jesus said "Today you will be with me in paradise." TODAY. Not the end of the age. Try again.

The Apostles made the same wrong assumption the Watchtower has, so Christ actually explained the euphemism to them. (it's clearly there had you bothered to finish reading the verse) John 11:11-15

After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

So again, you're going to need to try harder to have any of the Watchtower's faulty interpretations make sense. 

Or you could come to the realization that they've led you astray and come to know the True Jesus of Scripture.
So you put up your own bible topic.You come here to disagree rather then promote your own topicI am not sure why FC has a hard time seeing you and CG are the troublemakers.What we do doesnt affect you making $$$$.Use the ignore button.I see the views multiply every month.You clearly detest what i support and then u guys try to twist it around and make me look like the bad guy.You wanna promote your BS on your topic i wont interfere and if i wanna disagree i will do it in good taste.I know all the other religeons are part of Babylon the Great and are doomed.If you dont think so thats your problem.You and CG go write your 100 posts a day to FC and show your frustration and hatred.Eventually they will see what u guys are really like.

Also Today DIDNT mean the literal NOW!!!God told Adam in the DAY you sin you will die.Adam lived to be over 900 of our yrs.A day with God is 1000 of our yrs.Then there is the CREATION day.The universe wasnt made in 6 of our days.Not surprised.You measure everything by men....NOT God.

It's too late to play the victim, hitch. You've been banned multiple times- for good reason- and you can't blame me & Country Girl. Your own behavior has gotten you banned. (banned from a site you've admitted you scarcely use to make money in the first place)

Again and again I've pointed out the flaws in the Watchtower's teachings and you can't refute this other than fall back on blind obedience to them. (who's following Babylon here?)

It's only because I don't want people snared by a lie that I continue to refute your nonsense. And I do it for the right reasons. Most JWs don't even KNOW what they purport to believe. I was witnessing to a nice JW lady the other day (yes, I witness to people other than hitch. lol) and she was surprised to learn that the JWs think Jesus is Michael. Now, I don't think she's converted, but at least we has a pleasant conversation. And I told her to study the scriptures for herself and not just embrace whatever the Watchtower is selling.

BTW, you have no concept of context.

Like at all.

When Jesus told the thief 'today' He meant 'TODAY'.  Not every time the term 'day' is used does it mean 'AGE'. Sometimes it just means 'Today' as when Christ used it to the thief.

As far as the Creation, in the original Hebrew, I'm pretty sure you'll find the 6 days of creation are literal days. Some people dispute that, but from my time studying Hebrew, the term used typically meant a literal 24 hr period.

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #171 on: July 08, 2019, 06:22:32 pm »
Not sure many know this.A few yrs back Trumps son-in-law bought the Brooklyn based Watchtower building for $340 million dollars.Ponder that and then ask yourself what Gods name is.Now that looks more like a blessing from God then finding a bread machine.....lol!!Not too mysterious there...eh?

Lets also look at Math 24:14.It says the good news about Gods kingdom the only hope for mankind on earth will be preached worldwide and then the end of this Satanic manmade world will be put in oblivion.

So the fact thats JWs are in over 240 lands in the world and preaching & teaching the good news whattya think?Millions of FREE hrs!!!





I.......got nothin'.....

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #172 on: July 08, 2019, 06:36:45 pm »




23  When Jesusw began his work, he was about 30 years old,x being the son, as the opinion was,
of Joseph,y
son of Heʹli,
24  son of Matʹthat,
son of Leʹvi,
son of Melʹchi,
son of Janʹna·i,
son of Joseph,
25  son of Mat·ta·thiʹas,
son of Aʹmos,
son of Naʹhum,
son of Esʹli,
son of Nagʹga·i,
26  son of Maʹath,
son of Mat·ta·thiʹas,
son of Semʹe·in,
son of Joʹsech,
son of Joʹda,
27  son of Jo·anʹan,
son of Rheʹsa,
son of Ze·rubʹba·bel,z
son of She·alʹti·el,a
son of Neʹri,
28  son of Melʹchi,
son of Adʹdi,
son of Coʹsam,
son of El·maʹdam,
son of Er,
29  son of Jesus,
son of E·li·eʹzer,
son of Joʹrim,
son of Matʹthat,
son of Leʹvi,
30  son of Symʹe·on,
son of Judas,
son of Joseph,
son of Joʹnam,
son of E·liʹa·kim,
31  son of Meʹle·a,
son of Menʹna,
son of Matʹta·tha,
son of Nathan,b
son of David,c
32  son of Jesʹse,d
son of Oʹbed,e
son of Boʹaz,f
son of Salʹmon,g
son of Nahʹshon,h
33  son of Am·minʹa·dab,i
son of Arʹni,
son of Hezʹron,j
son of Peʹrez,k
son of Judah,l
34  son of Jacob,m
son of Isaac,n
son of Abraham,o
son of Teʹrah,p
son of Naʹhor,q
35  son of Seʹrug,r
son of Reʹu,s
son of Peʹleg,t
son of Eʹber,u
son of Sheʹlah,v
36  son of Ca·iʹnan,
son of Ar·pachʹshad,w
son of Shem,x
son of Noah,y
son of Laʹmech,z
37  son of Me·thuʹse·lah,a
son of Eʹnoch,b
son of Jaʹred,c
son of Ma·haʹla·le·el,d
son of Ca·iʹnan,e
38  son of Eʹnosh,f
son of Seth,g
son of Adam,h
son of God.


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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #173 on: July 09, 2019, 08:44:43 am »
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017484#h=1:0-15:167

If a xtian should be armed


New International Version
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Math 26:52

It really is quite simple.If you dont heed what Jesus says,you will perish



A BRIGHT BLUE giant nicknamed Icarus is now the farthest star humans have ever seen.

The supergiant star (officially named MACS J1149+2223 Lensed Star 1) lives more than halfway across the observable universe. It's much bigger than our own sun and hundreds of thousands of times brighter. Despite its brilliance, it still took nine billion years for its shining light to reach Earth.


 

 The fact that rays from remote stars and galaxies millions of light-years distant now reach giant telescopes on earth indicates that the creation of these astral bodies occurred millions of years in the past, since otherwise these rays would not yet have reached our planet. Such creation is evidently included in the initial statement at Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Verse 16 does not contradict this in saying that during the fourth creative “day,” or period, “God proceeded to make . . . the stars.” The word “make” (Heb., ʽa·sahʹ) does not mean the same as the word “create” (Heb., ba·raʼʹ).​—See CREATION.




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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #174 on: July 09, 2019, 01:16:38 pm »
This is very interesting to tell you and i do it cos we will get 500 views for July.I know u wont support it.

If light from a star 1000s of light yrs away finally hits the earth when the earth was first made it shows the stars had to be created quite a LONG time before.6 literal man days?????LOL!!!!!!!

Seriously JJ...U arent too bright!!No pun intended < or was there?>YUK YUK!!

Most JWs dont know what?Golly...over 20 million attend Lords Memorial!!There it is Black and white keep doing this in rememberance of me.I guess most had nothing better to do that night eh???

You are WAY too EZ to mix humor with logic with!!

Why dont u debate with CG.I have no idea what she even belongs to except that its part of Babylon The Great.She thinks animals are in heaven.Do you?LOL!



The Bible makes no mention of when the stars became seen on earth, only that God created them. Once again a non-issue like many of the thousands the Watchtower takes in a stranglehold.

There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world. By your logic you should be reciting the shahada right now. Islam must be right to have that many members!

Genesis 18:14

14 Is any thing too hard for the Lord?

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #175 on: July 09, 2019, 01:21:02 pm »
LOL!!!You dont want people snared by a lie???Then i suggest you put on a pair of shoes that wont wear out and bring plenty of water cos u have 240 + lands to go sound your warning!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as your other senseless biblical reasoning i dont have the time or energy to bring up with u ions of time wasted already with u.Im sure u know how to get on JW.org and put the subject in and see <or care>what they think.

You have this premonition that Jesus is God and everything else is wrong by JW teaching.I remind you Jesus was Gods begotten son.He was directly created by Jehovah...he was born also as a man and died as a man resurrected again to spiritual life.The bible explains that God never had a beginning or and ending.Jesus was mortal by being born and dying.The bible explains Jesus was 1st born of all creation and is the image of God.

23  When Jesusw began his work, he was about 30 years old,x being the son, as the opinion was,
of Joseph,y
son of Heʹli,
24  son of Matʹthat,
son of Leʹvi,
son of Melʹchi,
son of Janʹna·i,
son of Joseph,
25  son of Mat·ta·thiʹas,
son of Aʹmos,
son of Naʹhum,
son of Esʹli,
son of Nagʹga·i,
26  son of Maʹath,
son of Mat·ta·thiʹas,
son of Semʹe·in,
son of Joʹsech,
son of Joʹda,
27  son of Jo·anʹan,
son of Rheʹsa,
son of Ze·rubʹba·bel,z
son of She·alʹti·el,a
son of Neʹri,
28  son of Melʹchi,
son of Adʹdi,
son of Coʹsam,
son of El·maʹdam,
son of Er,
29  son of Jesus,
son of E·li·eʹzer,
son of Joʹrim,
son of Matʹthat,
son of Leʹvi,
30  son of Symʹe·on,
son of Judas,
son of Joseph,
son of Joʹnam,
son of E·liʹa·kim,
31  son of Meʹle·a,
son of Menʹna,
son of Matʹta·tha,
son of Nathan,b
son of David,c
32  son of Jesʹse,d
son of Oʹbed,e
son of Boʹaz,f
son of Salʹmon,g
son of Nahʹshon,h
33  son of Am·minʹa·dab,i
son of Arʹni,
son of Hezʹron,j
son of Peʹrez,k
son of Judah,l
34  son of Jacob,m
son of Isaac,n
son of Abraham,o
son of Teʹrah,p
son of Naʹhor,q
35  son of Seʹrug,r
son of Reʹu,s
son of Peʹleg,t
son of Eʹber,u
son of Sheʹlah,v
36  son of Ca·iʹnan,
son of Ar·pachʹshad,w
son of Shem,x
son of Noah,y
son of Laʹmech,z
37  son of Me·thuʹse·lah,a
son of Eʹnoch,b
son of Jaʹred,c
son of Ma·haʹla·le·el,d
son of Ca·iʹnan,e
38  son of Eʹnosh,f
son of Seth,g
son of Adam,h
son of God.

Gotta post here used 9 up today.Did u hear that CG????Newbies only get 9 per day.

Hitch deserved to get banned with Falcon.The guy was a creep.He never got thanked for getting rid of that cancer.But this latest ban............NO NO!!The posts and thank yous speak for themselves.No one is perfect.Never hadda come down to this.Behavior???Dont make me laugh.JJ u even sucked up to Falcon when he told u he was in service.I think u really missed him cos u loved debate.CG is another story.Maybe shes Falcon in disguise?LOL!!

Then again Falcon was an atheist.He would have to learn different BS if he wanted to be her in disguise.Who knows?


I gotta laugh- not just a little chuckle, mind you, I'm talking a big belly laugh here- at how you keep bringing up my 'sucking up to falcon 9' for my (allegedly- I have no recollection since this happened- what?- 6 years ago?)  thanking him for his military service. That's where you and I differ. I didn't 'hate' falcon 9 any more than I 'hate' you. You both spout blasphemies that I need to correct, but you're clearly the one full of hate, such that other JWs have called you out on bringing dishonor to your cult. 

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #176 on: July 09, 2019, 01:28:05 pm »
And again for the 1,000th time, Jesus Christ was not a created being. The Watchtower stooped so low as to add verses to their bible- just to have a flimsy leg to stand on in this argument.

Christ, was born of a virgin, did miracles, raised the dead, lived the perfect life none of us could, proclaimed He was equal to Jehovah, the Father- such that the Jews wanted to stone Him, died for our sins while He Himself was guiltless and rose to life again.

If that isn't enough witness for Jesus to be divine, just exactly what proof are you waiting for????   

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« Reply #177 on: July 09, 2019, 01:35:50 pm »
I also need to laugh at how hitch is referring to himself in the 3rd person, as if he's a newbie, while mentioning falcon9, a member who was banned a good half dozen years ago. LOL!

Keep play-acting while you can, genius.

Banned Man Walking.  ;)

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« Reply #178 on: July 09, 2019, 02:09:44 pm »
Must be frustrating to keep being limited to only 9 posts a day and resort to keep editing your 9 posts to respond. :D

Seems like you have more in common with falcon 9 than you realize. He believed in science above the bible and didn't know when to stop harassing people with his beliefs either!  Are you sure you're not falcon 9? lol

Well, falcon9 at least knew when to quit. Once he was banned, he didn't come back and harass people with 3 different troll accounts. lol

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Re: Sunday bible verse
« Reply #179 on: July 09, 2019, 02:17:07 pm »
The Father is greater than the Son in role, not essence. Just as an earthly father has a greater authoritative role over his son, despite their being equals as human beings.

 It's not rocket science, hitch. I've been learnin' you this for years now. I'm not saying anything new.

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